SB 29-25: Federal Budget FY 2022 (Passed)
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« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2021, 05:52:50 PM »

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TOTAL Revenue: $ 3973.83 Billion $ 39040.04 Billion

Status: Awaiting Sponsor Feedback
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« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2021, 06:15:40 PM »

Yes, that's a typo. Sen. Scott should be able to change it as PPT.
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« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2021, 06:20:28 PM »

Noted.

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TOTAL Revenue: $ 3973.83 Billion $ 3904.04 Billion

This will still need feedback from Yankee. He's been busy lately, so if his absence continues I will allow another senator to co-sponsor.
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« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2021, 08:15:54 PM »

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One Time Coronavirus Stimulus spending ($5295.126 Billion)
$9.226 Billion.... Coronavirus Containment and Emergency Response Act
$4807 Billion.... Economic Stimulus Act of 2020
$478.90 Billion.... JOBS AND PAY DURING THE CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC ACT

Why is this still here? There isn't that much spending from the previous stimulus bills that goes into FY 2022. These are the same numbers from last year's budget.

This is literally a copy paste job to get something before the Senate around the time the Senate was suppose to start debating the budget under statute (April set as such in 2017), the ultimate objective of decreasing the likelihood of needing to use CRs as many years recently have required by expanding the time before October that this was in front of the legislative branch.
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« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2021, 08:17:21 PM »

The amendment is friendly.
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« Reply #30 on: July 15, 2021, 08:20:42 PM »

Noted.

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TOTAL Revenue: $ 3973.83 Billion $ 3904.04 Billion

This will still need feedback from Yankee. He's been busy lately, so if his absence continues I will allow another senator to co-sponsor.

That wouldn't work actually since the primary sponsor has to give feedback. Historically speaking, in cases of extended delay of response from sponsor (as determined by the presiding officer), the standard practice was to assume hostile and put it to a vote.
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« Reply #31 on: July 15, 2021, 08:32:17 PM »

Senators have 24 hours to object.
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« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2021, 11:55:22 PM »

We are looking at the AGA amendment, correct?
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« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2021, 11:56:40 PM »


Yes.
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« Reply #34 on: July 17, 2021, 12:06:00 PM »

I assume AGA's amendment has passed. Introducing the following amendment. Space is an investment that will, in the end, pay off in massive dividends. But we need to do it sooner rather than later.
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Section 2: Spending

General science, space, and technology ($185.18 $339.18 Billion)               
$11.26 Billion.... National Science Foundation programs               
$4.55 Billion..... Department of Energy general science programs               
$169.37 Billion.... Space flight, research, and supporting activities
$154.00 Billion.... Space Exploration, Development, and Settlement Act
-$154.00 Billion.... Delay on the implementation of the Space Exploration, Development, and Settlement Act
          

Section 3: Balance

BASE REVENUE:     $ 3940.04 billion
Inflation Accounting: *1.012
TOTAL REVENUE: $ 3987.32 billion

Fixed Expenditures: $ 36.05 Billion
Variable Expenditures:  $ 3979.45 Billion $4133.45 Billion
Interest on Debt: $ 295.40 Billion
BASE EXPENDITURES: $ 4362.63 Billion $4464.9 Billion
Inflation Accounting: *1.012
TOTAL EXPENDITURES: $4362.63 Billion $4518.4788 Billion
BALANCE: $ -375.31 Billion $-531.1588 Billion
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« Reply #35 on: July 17, 2021, 12:10:29 PM »

Sen. Yankee says it still needs feedback from the primary sponsor, so I am not sure if it has been adopted yet.
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« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2021, 12:31:05 PM »

Well, either way just let it be known that it’s introduced.
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« Reply #37 on: July 17, 2021, 12:34:22 PM »

Hearing no objection, AGA's amendment is adopted.
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« Reply #38 on: July 18, 2021, 11:13:36 AM »

that deficit tho
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« Reply #39 on: July 18, 2021, 12:01:22 PM »

I really want to mess around and clean up those income tax brackets but

a) It'd be a whole lot of annoying work to try and recalculate all that
b) Even a modest increase for high brackets gets them above 100% tax in some regions.
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« Reply #40 on: July 18, 2021, 10:57:49 PM »

As an ex rust belter with a hard on for the Erie Canal, I am certainly open to investments that pay off in the long run.

However, barring emergencies/short term spending like the virus, I think that all long term appropriations and entitlements should have dedicated revenues or a spending offset.

Therefore, hostile.
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« Reply #41 on: July 19, 2021, 01:17:59 PM »

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Section 2: Spending

General science, space, and technology ($185.18 $339.18 Billion)               
$11.26 Billion.... National Science Foundation programs               
$4.55 Billion..... Department of Energy general science programs               
$169.37 Billion.... Space flight, research, and supporting activities
$154.00 Billion.... Space Exploration, Development, and Settlement Act
-$154.00 Billion.... Delay on the implementation of the Space Exploration, Development, and Settlement Act
          

Section 3: Balance

BASE REVENUE:     $ 3940.04 billion
Inflation Accounting: *1.012
TOTAL REVENUE: $ 3987.32 billion

Fixed Expenditures: $ 36.05 Billion
Variable Expenditures:  $ 3979.45 Billion $4133.45 Billion
Interest on Debt: $ 295.40 Billion
BASE EXPENDITURES: $ 4362.63 Billion $4464.9 Billion
Inflation Accounting: *1.012
TOTAL EXPENDITURES: $4362.63 Billion $4518.4788 Billion
BALANCE: $ -375.31 Billion $-531.1588 Billion

Sponsor Feedback: Hostile

Senators, please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.
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« Reply #42 on: July 19, 2021, 01:23:50 PM »

Weatherboy makes a compelling case for the investment. If space exploration can solve our energy and environmental crises long-term, then we need to get started now.

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« Reply #43 on: July 19, 2021, 01:24:17 PM »

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« Reply #44 on: July 19, 2021, 02:01:46 PM »

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« Reply #45 on: July 19, 2021, 02:06:08 PM »

Nay. I would like to see some spending cuts elsewhere before supporting this.
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« Reply #46 on: July 19, 2021, 02:09:10 PM »

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« Reply #47 on: July 19, 2021, 02:19:14 PM »

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« Reply #48 on: July 19, 2021, 05:07:30 PM »

Aye.

Personally, I feel that the benefits of space exploration will outweigh and pay off any negative side effects incurred by a larger deficit in the short term. In particular, the opportunity to discover new energy sources that could boost our economy at home and reduce the environmental impact of industrial commerce would be a significant boon for our nation in the long term.
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« Reply #49 on: July 19, 2021, 05:15:10 PM »

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