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« on: April 15, 2021, 08:02:19 AM »

Florida House passes bill banning transgender athletes from women’s sports
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The bill passed by lawmakers, HB 1475, is aimed at maintaining the competitive balance in women’s sports, its supporters say. Detractors say it’s a thinly veiled attempt to marginalize already vulnerable transgender kids. The legislation is part of a national effort on the part of Republican state lawmakers to remove transgender athletes from girls’ and women’s sports. Florida is one of at least 30 states debating such a bi
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The bill, which is modeled after an Idaho law that was temporarily struck down by a federal judge last year, allows a school or competitor to lodge a complaint about an athlete competing in a girls’ or woman’s sport. If the party complaining suspects the athlete was not assigned the female gender at birth, the athlete in question will have to prove their birth gender — via a genetic test, a test of their testosterone levels or an examination of their reproductive anatomy by a medical professional — in order to compete.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm starting to think all the GOP whining about transpeople in bathrooms was just more projection.
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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2021, 08:21:31 AM »

We know from the Gaetz fallout that the Florida legislature is full of sickos and perverts, so they're probably pretty turned on by the thought of this bill.
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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2021, 08:26:45 AM »
« Edited: April 15, 2021, 08:58:40 AM by Unbeatable Titan Eva Copa »

Jesus. “If the party complaining suspects” - based on what? Are they just gonna say “hey, that lady over there said your jaw looks too square, ma’am. Time to show me the goods”?
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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2021, 08:30:32 AM »

Anyone else find it disturbing how obsessed Republicans are with other people's genitals?
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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2021, 08:38:39 AM »

Absolutely sick. People that know nothing about trans kid using them for political gain. Shameful.
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2021, 09:40:10 AM »

“Penis inspections” used to just be a stupid joke among teen guys not actual state law
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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2021, 10:31:05 AM »

God, why are Republicans like this? I know I should Read Another Book™, but Dreadnought put it best: Isn't it enough to tell them I'm a girl? What does it really matter what my chromosomes are?
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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2021, 11:22:27 AM »

You make it sound like they’ll be forcing kids to strip down in front of them but that’s not what it says at all. Headline is exaggerated as suspected:

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via a genetic test, a test of their testosterone levels or an examination of their reproductive anatomy by a medical professional

So they don’t have to do a “genital inspection” of any kind unless they choose to do so over the others, and even then it will be done by a doctor (who does this kind of thing anyway).
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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2021, 11:23:39 AM »

God, why are Republicans like this? I know I should Read Another Book™, but Dreadnought put it best: Isn't it enough to tell them I'm a girl? What does it really matter what my chromosomes are?

The Republican party is like this because a majority are sick sick cultural Warriors like fuzzy bear. And the so-called "good ones" like osr and lfromnj will still gladly vote for the candidates who support this bigoted trash so long as they also support tax cuts, environmental deregulation, and laws making it hard to unionize.
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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2021, 11:25:30 AM »

You make it sound like they’ll be forcing kids to strip down in front of them but that’s not what it says at all. Headline is exaggerated as suspected:

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via a genetic test, a test of their testosterone levels or an examination of their reproductive anatomy by a medical professional

So they don’t have to do a “genital inspection” of any kind unless they choose to do so over the others, and even then it will be done by a doctor (who does this kind of thing anyway).

So does that make it OK that they’ll be forcing kids to be subjected to humiliating, degrading, dysphoric exams like this?
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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2021, 11:30:40 AM »

You make it sound like they’ll be forcing kids to strip down in front of them but that’s not what it says at all. Headline is exaggerated as suspected:

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via a genetic test, a test of their testosterone levels or an examination of their reproductive anatomy by a medical professional

So they don’t have to do a “genital inspection” of any kind unless they choose to do so over the others, and even then it will be done by a doctor (who does this kind of thing anyway).

So does that make it OK that they’ll be forcing kids to be subjected to humiliating, degrading, dysphoric exams like this?

It wouldn’t exactly call it “humiliating” to have your genitals examined by a medial professional- it’s literally just another part of the body- but not going to lie, it is kind of weird.
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« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2021, 11:43:08 AM »

You make it sound like they’ll be forcing kids to strip down in front of them but that’s not what it says at all. Headline is exaggerated as suspected:

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via a genetic test, a test of their testosterone levels or an examination of their reproductive anatomy by a medical professional

So they don’t have to do a “genital inspection” of any kind unless they choose to do so over the others, and even then it will be done by a doctor (who does this kind of thing anyway).
That’s a pretty charitable reading of things. The article actually says that no one actually knows exactly how the complaint and testing process will work and that the law would leave it up to the State Board of Education to craft the precise rules.

What level of “suspicion” is needed before the burden shifts to the accused to prove their biology? Who gets to decide what level of invasive inspection is necessary to settle the issue? Who knows!  Why would the FL leg bother thinking through any of the particulars as long as they’ve accomplished their goal of sticking it to trans athletes?
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« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2021, 11:45:58 AM »

You make it sound like they’ll be forcing kids to strip down in front of them but that’s not what it says at all. Headline is exaggerated as suspected:

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via a genetic test, a test of their testosterone levels or an examination of their reproductive anatomy by a medical professional

So they don’t have to do a “genital inspection” of any kind unless they choose to do so over the others, and even then it will be done by a doctor (who does this kind of thing anyway).

So does that make it OK that they’ll be forcing kids to be subjected to humiliating, degrading, dysphoric exams like this?

It wouldn’t exactly call it “humiliating” to have your genitals examined by a medial professional- it’s literally just another part of the body- but not going to lie, it is kind of weird.

I’d be humiliated if the state forced me to show anyone my genitals because they think something about my appearance is suspicious.
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« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2021, 12:05:26 PM »

You make it sound like they’ll be forcing kids to strip down in front of them but that’s not what it says at all. Headline is exaggerated as suspected:

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via a genetic test, a test of their testosterone levels or an examination of their reproductive anatomy by a medical professional

So they don’t have to do a “genital inspection” of any kind unless they choose to do so over the others, and even then it will be done by a doctor (who does this kind of thing anyway).

So does that make it OK that they’ll be forcing kids to be subjected to humiliating, degrading, dysphoric exams like this?

It wouldn’t exactly call it “humiliating” to have your genitals examined by a medial professional- it’s literally just another part of the body- but not going to lie, it is kind of weird.

I’d be humiliated if the state forced me to show anyone my genitals because they think something about my appearance is suspicious.

Better hope you’re never accused of committing a crime then.
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« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2021, 12:18:07 PM »

This kind of stuff pretty much proves to me that "scepticism" of "globalization" and "immigration" is basically mostly just old-fashioned racism.

The reason I say this is because the excuse for this has always been that the white working class are the ones most at risk economically from immigration and globalization, so of course they are the ones who are primarily against it. Nothing to do with racism.

But these people are OBSESSED with transpeople and this time they cannot use the "economic anxiety" excuse. Transpeople in no way shape or form affects the economic prosperity of the white working class. It is just oldfashioned hatred towards those who are different. Just like their anti-immigration stances are mostly just oldfashioned racism.
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« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2021, 12:22:01 PM »

Oh boy, another one of these threads.
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« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2021, 12:37:00 PM »

Perhaps the solution to this is to divide sports along "weight" classes like boxing, as opposed to gender.
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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2021, 12:44:02 PM »

You make it sound like they’ll be forcing kids to strip down in front of them but that’s not what it says at all. Headline is exaggerated as suspected:

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via a genetic test, a test of their testosterone levels or an examination of their reproductive anatomy by a medical professional

So they don’t have to do a “genital inspection” of any kind unless they choose to do so over the others, and even then it will be done by a doctor (who does this kind of thing anyway).

So does that make it OK that they’ll be forcing kids to be subjected to humiliating, degrading, dysphoric exams like this?

It wouldn’t exactly call it “humiliating” to have your genitals examined by a medial professional- it’s literally just another part of the body- but not going to lie, it is kind of weird.

I’d be humiliated if the state forced me to show anyone my genitals because they think something about my appearance is suspicious.

Better hope you’re never accused of committing a crime then.


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« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2021, 12:45:06 PM »

Even if I tried to play devil's advocate for this; wouldn't simply asking for birth certificates be more than enough to counter that """super important""" issue? No need for invasive tests required

There is no need for medical tests for kids at all (I guess you could simply test for testosterone alongside any other doping agents; but by the time doping becomes a concern you are facing adults and full professionals)
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« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2021, 12:45:12 PM »

I can't believe they're actually making penis inspections a thing.
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« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2021, 12:53:30 PM »

Perhaps the solution to this is to divide sports along "weight" classes like boxing, as opposed to gender.
Doesn't really make it fair either. Men are just far faster, more athletic and have better spatial sense regardless of weight.
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« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2021, 12:54:20 PM »

You make it sound like they’ll be forcing kids to strip down in front of them but that’s not what it says at all. Headline is exaggerated as suspected:

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via a genetic test, a test of their testosterone levels or an examination of their reproductive anatomy by a medical professional

So they don’t have to do a “genital inspection” of any kind unless they choose to do so over the others, and even then it will be done by a doctor (who does this kind of thing anyway).

So does that make it OK that they’ll be forcing kids to be subjected to humiliating, degrading, dysphoric exams like this?

It wouldn’t exactly call it “humiliating” to have your genitals examined by a medial professional- it’s literally just another part of the body- but not going to lie, it is kind of weird.

I’d be humiliated if the state forced me to show anyone my genitals because they think something about my appearance is suspicious.

Better hope you’re never accused of committing a crime then.


This isn’t the own you think it is.

Good thing it wasn’t meant to be.
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« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2021, 12:57:03 PM »
« Edited: April 15, 2021, 01:08:19 PM by Lief 🐋 »

Not surprising. The GOP is less a political party these days and more a cabal of wealthy and powerful pedophiles. I’m sure these freaks are licking their lips at the chance to legally inspect little boys’ penises.
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« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2021, 02:40:36 PM »

Really small government they said...
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« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2021, 02:46:54 PM »

You make it sound like they’ll be forcing kids to strip down in front of them but that’s not what it says at all. Headline is exaggerated as suspected:

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via a genetic test, a test of their testosterone levels or an examination of their reproductive anatomy by a medical professional

So they don’t have to do a “genital inspection” of any kind unless they choose to do so over the others, and even then it will be done by a doctor (who does this kind of thing anyway).

So does that make it OK that they’ll be forcing kids to be subjected to humiliating, degrading, dysphoric exams like this?

It wouldn’t exactly call it “humiliating” to have your genitals examined by a medial professional- it’s literally just another part of the body- but not going to lie, it is kind of weird.

I’d be humiliated if the state forced me to show anyone my genitals because they think something about my appearance is suspicious.

Better hope you’re never accused of committing a crime then.


But these are children who may be subjected to this. Not for a crime, but simply because their gender may be in question. The idea of an anatomy test being including in this bill is disgusting and could easily be abused by predators. 
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