2012: Hillary Clinton vs. Mitt Romney (Hillary wins 2008)
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Alben Barkley
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« on: April 13, 2021, 03:10:04 PM »

Hillary defeats John McCain in 2008 with this map. Her running mate is Evan Bayh:



Her first term goes fairly similarly to Obama’s, except there is no mass exodus of WWC voters from the Democratic Party, less of an intense backlash in the 2010 midterms, and her more experienced and realistic view of how to deal with Congress and Republicans allows her to get through a healthcare plan that includes a public option. Osama bin Laden still goes down. The stimulus is still passed, auto industry bailout still happens, etc. Economy is on the upswing but still not great.

What does the 2012 election and map against Mitt Romney look like?
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2021, 03:21:32 PM »

Real 2012 minus Ohio.
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2021, 09:59:41 PM »

Hillary would have duplicated Obama margin not win by this
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2021, 01:17:22 AM »

It all depends on how well she's liked

If she's (somehow) in the 60's, She could win all those states she won in 2008 again along with TN, AR and GA:



✓ President Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Vice President Evan Bayh (D-IN): 426 EV. (56.89%)
Fmr. Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Representative Paul Ryan (R-WI): 112 EV. (41.32%)

If she's in the lower 50's, I'd expect somewhere around Obama's 2012 map:



✓ President Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Vice President Evan Bayh (D-IN): 338 EV. (52.12%)
Fmr. Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Representative Paul Ryan (R-WI): 200 EV. (46.54%)

If she's around where Trump was most of his presidency IRL she loses:



✓ Fmr. Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Representative Paul Ryan (R-WI): 317 EV. (51.07%)
President Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Vice President Evan Bayh (D-IN): 221 EV. (47.77%)

If her approval is (somehow) lower than 40% she loses in a landslide of her own:



✓ Fmr. Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Representative Paul Ryan (R-WI): 360 EV. (53.24%)
President Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Vice President Evan Bayh (D-IN): 178 EV. (45.47%)
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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2022, 11:25:43 PM »


President Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Vice President Evan Bayh (D-IN) ✓
Fmr. Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA) / Congressman Paul Ryan (R-WI)
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