Is this the worst historical take ever?

[Kingpoleon]

https://worldhistory.us/ancient-history/ancient-egypt/the-ancient-history-of-sexism-begins-with-hypatias-murder.php

Only 100 years before Hypatia’s birth, the ruler of the Roman Empire, Constantine, embraced Christianity and from that moment everyone in the empire became a Christian by his edict. But they remained Pagans by character, despite his order that made every Pagan temple a Christian church and every Pagan priest a Christian preacher.

This is amazing historical fanfiction!

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

Not even close.

[Edu]

Even the title of the article is complete nonsense


also lol

References:

1. Amenabar, Alejandro, director and script, Agora, 2009.

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Yes that wonderful world of feminist equality, um, the Roman Empire. If anything female leaders became even more prominent after Constantine - the Valentinian-Theodossian dynasty especially had a huge number of prominent and powerful women, although that was possibly because that dynasty had an unusual number of halfwitted manchildren in their menfolk.

[It's Perro Sanxe wot won it]

You should take a look at the Institut Nova Història:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_Nova_Història

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Even just the two sentences Kingpoleon quoted feature the all-too-common Constantindosius conflation where actions taken by Theodosius I are attributed to Constantine because Constantine is an Evil Christian Bogeyman more people have heard of. (Plus the classic "priests in Late Antiquity were pagan priests given new marching orders for some reason" neopagan pseudohistory--I'm sure a lot of the leaders of Classical religion cracked down on by the Theodosians would have preferred that that be true!) I'm sure the rest of the essay is dreadful too.

You should take a look at the Institut Nova Història:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_Nova_Història

lmao, this is amazing. Rich-region separatists gonna rich-region separatism.

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Even just the two sentences Kingpoleon quoted feature the all-too-common Constantindosius conflation where actions taken by Theodosius I are attributed to Constantine because Constantine is an Evil Christian Bogeyman more people have heard of.

Even Theodosius was largely guilt-tripped into the persecutions by Ambrose of Milan after the emperor went through a particularly bloody clampdown of rebellion citizens in Thessalonica.

Ironically enough, the big turning point at the time of Hypatia's death in the East was Aelia Pulcheria, the 14 year old sister of Theodosius II. She impressively managed to win power struggles in the court to become the power behind the throne, and used it to heighten repression against pagans and Jews, including by lending support for Cyril.

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Its a pretty competitive category, but my favourite bad religion adjacent historical take is this:

https://twitter.com/neiltyson/status/27038631191

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

Its a pretty competitive category, but my favourite bad religion adjacent bad historical take is this:

https://twitter.com/neiltyson/status/27038631191

Ah yes, I remember when the Spaniard Amerigo Vespucci set sail for the New World because he just loved to explore.

[Samof94]

https://worldhistory.us/ancient-history/ancient-egypt/the-ancient-history-of-sexism-begins-with-hypatias-murder.php

Only 100 years before Hypatia’s birth, the ruler of the Roman Empire, Constantine, embraced Christianity and from that moment everyone in the empire became a Christian by his edict. But they remained Pagans by character, despite his order that made every Pagan temple a Christian church and every Pagan priest a Christian preacher.

This is amazing historical fanfiction!

Hammurabi’s code was quite sexist.

[Chunk Yogurt for President!]

That's pretty bad, I've also seen people on reddit claim that the "party switch" happened in the 70s or 80s.

[Pink Panther]

https://worldhistory.us/ancient-history/ancient-egypt/the-ancient-history-of-sexism-begins-with-hypatias-murder.php

Only 100 years before Hypatia’s birth, the ruler of the Roman Empire, Constantine, embraced Christianity and from that moment everyone in the empire became a Christian by his edict. But they remained Pagans by character, despite his order that made every Pagan temple a Christian church and every Pagan priest a Christian preacher.

This is amazing historical fanfiction!

Is this supposed to convince the readers that Catholics are Roman Pagans masquerading as Christians?

[Statilius the Epicurean]

https://worldhistory.us/ancient-history/ancient-egypt/the-ancient-history-of-sexism-begins-with-hypatias-murder.php

Only 100 years before Hypatia’s birth, the ruler of the Roman Empire, Constantine, embraced Christianity and from that moment everyone in the empire became a Christian by his edict. But they remained Pagans by character, despite his order that made every Pagan temple a Christian church and every Pagan priest a Christian preacher.

This is amazing historical fanfiction!

Is this supposed to convince the readers that Catholics are Roman Pagans masquerading as Christians?

I've seen that claim more from certain Protestants, that Constantine founded the Catholic Church and perverted Christianity from its apostolic teachings by turning it into a state religion.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I wish it were, but it isn't. Just staying within the same broad historical topic, Yusuf Estes's claim that the Catholic Church was founded by Alexander the Great has that one beat by an order of magnitude in terms of sheer historical implausibility.

[Kingpoleon]

Its a pretty competitive category, but my favourite bad religion adjacent historical take is this:

https://twitter.com/neiltyson/status/27038631191

Others below:

https://historyforatheists.com/2020/11/richard-dawkins-teaches-the-children/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFrhOxXGgaw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qLSzhuTCXc


And we haven’t even touched on Carl Sagan’s account of history...

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Its a pretty competitive category, but my favourite bad religion adjacent historical take is this:

https://twitter.com/neiltyson/status/27038631191

Others below:

https://historyforatheists.com/2020/11/richard-dawkins-teaches-the-children/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFrhOxXGgaw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qLSzhuTCXc


And we haven’t even touched on Carl Sagan’s account of history...

I wasn't actually aware Dawkins was writing anymore beyond his Weird Twitter activities.

Sagan's account of history was generic Huxley/Ingersoll-derived Whiggery and the great man deserves better than to be classed with this kind of calculatedly insulting mendacity.

[Kingpoleon]

I wasn't actually aware Dawkins was writing anymore beyond his Weird Twitter activities.

Sagan's account of history was generic Huxley/Ingersoll-derived Whiggery and the great man deserves better than to be classed with this kind of calculatedly insulting mendacity.

I think it’s fair to classify Sagan with Tyson and Dawkins. Science popularizers are, as a rule, entirely opposed to humanities, religion, politics, and everything. For example:

“In science it often happens that scientists say, ‘You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,’ and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion.”

“In some respects, science has far surpassed religion in delivering awe. How is it that hardly any major religion has looked at science and concluded, ‘This is better than we thought! The Universe is much bigger than our prophets said, grander, more subtle, more elegant. God must be even greater than we dreamed’?”

https://www.americamagazine.org/issue/100/carl-sagans-gospel-scientism

https://www.str.org/w/sagan-and-scientism

These are the words of the first advocate for Scientism. Over two thousand years ago, Plato proposed that philosophers ought to run everything (some interpretations of Plato believe this is satirical). This new sect proposes, quite seriously, that scientists ought to run everything.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

Its a pretty competitive category, but my favourite bad religion adjacent historical take is this:

https://twitter.com/neiltyson/status/27038631191

Others below:

https://historyforatheists.com/2020/11/richard-dawkins-teaches-the-children/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFrhOxXGgaw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qLSzhuTCXc


And we haven’t even touched on Carl Sagan’s account of history...

Atheists are to History as Baptists are to Biology.