Whatever happened to PPP?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Surprised I didn't notice until now after the election but they kind of disappeared after the primaries.

[soundchaser]

I believe (and I remember reading on this forum somewhere?) they did mostly private polling this cycle.

[wbrocks67]

I think the only state that we regularly saw them in this cycle was Washington. They had a 9-12 pt spread for Murray, so even they underestimated her.

[GeorgiaModerate]

As mentioned above, they mostly did private polling for Democratic candidates or groups.  But they did have a few other releases throughout the campaign.  Going back to Sep. 1 I see:

9/7 WA-SEN Murray +9
9/9 NY-GOV Hochul +15
9/20 WA-03 Kent +4
9/22 IL-17 Sorensen +9
9/27 WI-GOV Evers +2
9/27 WI-SEN Tie
9/28 WA-SEN Murray +12
10/7 NM-GOV Lujan Grisham +8
10/8 NC-SEN Budd +1
10/11 IL-GOV Pritzker +15
10/11 IL-SEN Duckworth +14
10/11 LA-SEN Kennedy +37 (53%)
10/20 WA-SEN Murray +10

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

They were hack polls they were the old R2K polls and CIVIQS took over

CIVIQS polled the WI Sen exactly right 50/49 Johnson the other PPP polls would of had it 48/46 Barnes like Clarity had it

[Devils30]

https://newrepublic.com/article/114682/ppp-polling-methodology-opaque-flawed

Nate Cohn caught them red-handed 9 years ago. Basically their 2012 success was a lot like Trafalgar's in 2016-2020.

[Antonio the Sixth]

https://newrepublic.com/article/114682/ppp-polling-methodology-opaque-flawed

Nate Cohn caught them red-handed 9 years ago. Basically their 2012 success was a lot like Trafalgar's in 2016-2020.

This election has really proven that there's no cheap substitute for sound polling methodology. Sure, even the best pollsters can get it wrong because getting a representative sample is getting harder and harder, but if you try to correct for it by simply fudging the numbers to make them match your priors, you're guaranteed to get it badly wrong eventually.