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« Reply #100 on: May 10, 2023, 01:24:13 AM »

Trone is 67 and Alsobrooks is 52. Both are going to vote pretty much the same if elected, if you are thinking about the long game you would definitely go for Alsobrooks.
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« Reply #101 on: May 10, 2023, 02:51:49 AM »

Sen Alsobrooks, Gov Stein, Presley and Gov Joyce Craig ring to my ear Alsobrooks is the Fav now
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« Reply #102 on: May 10, 2023, 10:34:29 AM »

Mfume already backing Alsobrooks, a major flex for her in Baltimore.

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« Reply #103 on: May 10, 2023, 12:45:30 PM »

Likely scenario, since we have no blk women in S
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« Reply #104 on: May 10, 2023, 01:21:19 PM »



Sounds like a solid candidate. There need to be more black women in positions of power anyway, there's currently none in the senate.
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« Reply #105 on: May 10, 2023, 02:10:17 PM »



Sounds like a solid candidate. There need to be more black women in positions of power anyway, there's currently none in the senate.

I like forward to it going from zero black women to at least two of them in a couple years
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« Reply #106 on: May 10, 2023, 02:11:30 PM »



Sounds like a solid candidate. There need to be more black women in positions of power anyway, there's currently none in the senate.

I like forward to it going from zero black women to at least two of them in a couple years

What a pity North Carolina didn't elect Cheri Beasley. She would have been an excellent senator.
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« Reply #107 on: May 11, 2023, 12:24:22 PM »

Alsobrooks really coming out swinging.

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« Reply #108 on: May 11, 2023, 12:32:07 PM »
« Edited: May 11, 2023, 12:40:04 PM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »



Sounds like a solid candidate. There need to be more black women in positions of power anyway, there's currently none in the senate.

I like forward to it going from zero black women to at least two of them in a couple years

What a pity North Carolina didn't elect Cheri Beasley. She would have been an excellent senator.

It's obvious by now at the poor performance by DeSantis that Rubio and IAN CATEPILULTED THR Rs especially Johnson over Republican it's on the Database that prior to 9/26 Beasley, Barnes and Ryan were winning and Brown is very confident in Winning esp since DeWine isny on the ballot users think only 303 just like Woodbury thinks the Final poll gonna be Biden plus 2 over Trump lol Trump still have 3 open investigate


Users think that IAN had nothing to do with Rs winning Johnson is DONE IN 28 to Sara Rodriguez

Especially since you don't see MAtty or Vaccinated Bear or MT Treasure around they were all around in 22
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« Reply #109 on: May 12, 2023, 09:03:09 AM »

Raskin is probably the only remaining candidate who could make waves here. I like Olszewski but he's not breaking through in this field.
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« Reply #110 on: May 13, 2023, 07:59:16 AM »
« Edited: May 14, 2023, 08:34:59 AM by Pollster »

Raskin is probably the only remaining candidate who could make waves here. I like Olszewski but he's not breaking through in this field.

Johnny O has a clear path forward with a Congressional seat basically waiting for him when Ruppersberger retires, which will certainly be within the next few cycles if not this one. Wouldn't be surprising if he runs this race solely to have an active federal campaign account open that he can use to get a head start on raising money.
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« Reply #111 on: May 13, 2023, 10:10:49 AM »

The more I read about them, the more I come away with the impression that Trone and Alsobrooks would both make good Senators.  I think I’d probably prefer Alsobrooks, but I’d be happy either way.  Raskin probably shouldn’t run though.  We’ve got a decent shot at flipping the House which would make him Chair of a major committee and there are already two solid mainstream progressives running, one of whom shares Raskin’s Montgomery County base. 
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« Reply #112 on: May 13, 2023, 10:24:40 AM »
« Edited: May 13, 2023, 10:43:04 AM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

GOV CRAIG, SEN ALSOBROOKS, SEN BARBARA LEE, GOV PRESLEY, GOV BESHEAR, SEN KUNCE, SEN BROWN, SEN KUNCE AND SEN GALLEGO ALL WILL BE SWORN IN AND SPEAKER JEFFRIES 1/6/25

Trump and DeSantis losing this early in PIS show they won't win TX, MO, MT, OH and AZ S and NC, MS, KY and NH Govs

Barbara Lee can certainly win the Runoff Karen Bass was down double digits to Caruso and win

Everyone says she is too old the leading cause of death among blk females is Diabetes she doesn't have it
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« Reply #113 on: May 13, 2023, 01:31:35 PM »

The more I read about them, the more I come away with the impression that Trone and Alsobrooks would both make good Senators.  I think I’d probably prefer Alsobrooks, but I’d be happy either way.  Raskin probably shouldn’t run though.  We’ve got a decent shot at flipping the House which would make him Chair of a major committee and there are already two solid mainstream progressives running, one of whom shares Raskin’s Montgomery County base. 
Jawano said he'd drop out and run for the House if Raskin runs
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« Reply #114 on: May 13, 2023, 02:35:17 PM »

The more I read about them, the more I come away with the impression that Trone and Alsobrooks would both make good Senators.  I think I’d probably prefer Alsobrooks, but I’d be happy either way.  Raskin probably shouldn’t run though.  We’ve got a decent shot at flipping the House which would make him Chair of a major committee and there are already two solid mainstream progressives running, one of whom shares Raskin’s Montgomery County base.  
Jawano said he'd drop out and run for the House if Raskin runs

I was referring to Trone, not Jawano.  I don’t think Jawano has a path to victory in the Senate primary.  Trone and Alsobrooks both seem like solid mainstream progressives.  I’d be happy with either at this point, although I’d probably vote for Alsobrooks if I lived in Maryland.
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« Reply #115 on: May 13, 2023, 04:43:48 PM »

The more I read about them, the more I come away with the impression that Trone and Alsobrooks would both make good Senators.  I think I’d probably prefer Alsobrooks, but I’d be happy either way.  Raskin probably shouldn’t run though.  We’ve got a decent shot at flipping the House which would make him Chair of a major committee and there are already two solid mainstream progressives running, one of whom shares Raskin’s Montgomery County base.  
Jawano said he'd drop out and run for the House if Raskin runs

I was referring to Trone, not Jawano.  I don’t think Jawano has a path to victory in the Senate primary.  Trone and Alsobrooks both seem like solid mainstream progressives.  I’d be happy with either at this point, although I’d probably vote for Alsobrooks if I lived in Maryland.

Trone "progressive"!? That's a laugh.
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« Reply #116 on: May 13, 2023, 06:18:44 PM »

The more I read about them, the more I come away with the impression that Trone and Alsobrooks would both make good Senators.  I think I’d probably prefer Alsobrooks, but I’d be happy either way.  Raskin probably shouldn’t run though.  We’ve got a decent shot at flipping the House which would make him Chair of a major committee and there are already two solid mainstream progressives running, one of whom shares Raskin’s Montgomery County base.  
Jawano said he'd drop out and run for the House if Raskin runs

I was referring to Trone, not Jawano.  I don’t think Jawano has a path to victory in the Senate primary.  Trone and Alsobrooks both seem like solid mainstream progressives.  I’d be happy with either at this point, although I’d probably vote for Alsobrooks if I lived in Maryland.

Trone "progressive"!? That's a laugh.

On what major issues isn’t he a mainstream progressive?  Please cite with examples of specific policy positions.
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« Reply #117 on: May 13, 2023, 07:04:47 PM »

The more I read about them, the more I come away with the impression that Trone and Alsobrooks would both make good Senators.  I think I’d probably prefer Alsobrooks, but I’d be happy either way.  Raskin probably shouldn’t run though.  We’ve got a decent shot at flipping the House which would make him Chair of a major committee and there are already two solid mainstream progressives running, one of whom shares Raskin’s Montgomery County base.  
Jawano said he'd drop out and run for the House if Raskin runs

I was referring to Trone, not Jawano.  I don’t think Jawano has a path to victory in the Senate primary.  Trone and Alsobrooks both seem like solid mainstream progressives.  I’d be happy with either at this point, although I’d probably vote for Alsobrooks if I lived in Maryland.

Trone "progressive"!? That's a laugh.

On what major issues isn’t he a mainstream progressive?  Please cite with examples of specific policy positions.

Israel, (interest-conflicted) regulation, & no less an entity than socialism itself. What "mainstream progressive" is also a New Dem Problem Solver who not only hired a veteran Capitol Hill staffer with a specific reputation for serving moderate-leaning Blue Dog congressmen to be his Chief of Staff, but whose own website can literally be publicly quoted as follows?:

Steve Scully (0:14) - Let me begin with what the new Congress will look like, you will be now in the minority but a very narrow minority for the Democrats, the Republicans only, what a four-seat majority in 2023. So how’s that going to affect the leadership? If he becomes speaker? Kevin McCarthy. And where does that put moderate Democrats and moderate Republicans like you?

David Trone (0:36) - Well, I think it puts, if Kevin McCarthy can get the votes needed, 218 requisite votes needed, which, as we all know, he’s certainly struggling right now with some Freedom Caucus members who are not cooperating. But once he does that, and I think he will, I think the moderates are going to clearly be in a good spot, Republican moderates, Democrat moderates, we’re gonna have a chance to work together, with a agenda that can actually get accomplished. And sometimes in the past, we’ve overreached in our party, and that’s come back to bite us.

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David Trone (2:43) - Well, as I might have noticed, like most folks have noticed, the January 6 Committee, we invited Republicans to be on. They made it crystal clear they didn’t want to be on. And we have two Republicans, both Kinzinger and Liz Cheney on the committee. And it’s been I think, believe, very, very balanced. I’m a moderate, and I’m looking for balance. We’re not looking to score political points. We want to put people over politics every day. And we need oversight. But we don’t need politics, American people are just sick and tired of it.
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« Reply #118 on: May 13, 2023, 07:35:24 PM »
« Edited: May 13, 2023, 07:53:08 PM by The Address That Must Not be Named »

The more I read about them, the more I come away with the impression that Trone and Alsobrooks would both make good Senators.  I think I’d probably prefer Alsobrooks, but I’d be happy either way.  Raskin probably shouldn’t run though.  We’ve got a decent shot at flipping the House which would make him Chair of a major committee and there are already two solid mainstream progressives running, one of whom shares Raskin’s Montgomery County base.  
Jawano said he'd drop out and run for the House if Raskin runs

I was referring to Trone, not Jawano.  I don’t think Jawano has a path to victory in the Senate primary.  Trone and Alsobrooks both seem like solid mainstream progressives.  I’d be happy with either at this point, although I’d probably vote for Alsobrooks if I lived in Maryland.

Trone "progressive"!? That's a laugh.

On what major issues isn’t he a mainstream progressive?  Please cite with examples of specific policy positions.

Israel, (interest-conflicted) regulation, & no less an entity than socialism itself. What "mainstream progressive" is also a New Dem Problem Solver who not only hired a veteran Capitol Hill staffer with a specific reputation for serving moderate-leaning Blue Dog congressmen to be his Chief of Staff, but whose own website can literally be publicly quoted as follows?:

Steve Scully (0:14) - Let me begin with what the new Congress will look like, you will be now in the minority but a very narrow minority for the Democrats, the Republicans only, what a four-seat majority in 2023. So how’s that going to affect the leadership? If he becomes speaker? Kevin McCarthy. And where does that put moderate Democrats and moderate Republicans like you?

David Trone (0:36) - Well, I think it puts, if Kevin McCarthy can get the votes needed, 218 requisite votes needed, which, as we all know, he’s certainly struggling right now with some Freedom Caucus members who are not cooperating. But once he does that, and I think he will, I think the moderates are going to clearly be in a good spot, Republican moderates, Democrat moderates, we’re gonna have a chance to work together, with a agenda that can actually get accomplished. And sometimes in the past, we’ve overreached in our party, and that’s come back to bite us.

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David Trone (2:43) - Well, as I might have noticed, like most folks have noticed, the January 6 Committee, we invited Republicans to be on. They made it crystal clear they didn’t want to be on. And we have two Republicans, both Kinzinger and Liz Cheney on the committee. And it’s been I think, believe, very, very balanced. I’m a moderate, and I’m looking for balance. We’re not looking to score political points. We want to put people over politics every day. And we need oversight. But we don’t need politics, American people are just sick and tired of it.

1) Opposing anti-Semitic hate groups like BDS =/= not being progressive
2) The Intercept is about as credible a source as Newsmax.  That said, the prohibition thing is obviously moronic if it’s actually true and not fake news.
3) Performative virtue signaling votes are not major issues.  Ted Lieu and Ruben Gallego voted for the anti-socialism resolution too, I guess that means they’re DINOs too Roll Eyes
4) Unaware of the quote on the website.  Don’t love that (to put it mildly), but still not an actual major issue where he’s actually voted against progressive policies.
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« Reply #119 on: May 13, 2023, 08:12:22 PM »
« Edited: May 13, 2023, 08:23:31 PM by brucejoel99 »

The more I read about them, the more I come away with the impression that Trone and Alsobrooks would both make good Senators.  I think I’d probably prefer Alsobrooks, but I’d be happy either way.  Raskin probably shouldn’t run though.  We’ve got a decent shot at flipping the House which would make him Chair of a major committee and there are already two solid mainstream progressives running, one of whom shares Raskin’s Montgomery County base.  
Jawano said he'd drop out and run for the House if Raskin runs

I was referring to Trone, not Jawano.  I don’t think Jawano has a path to victory in the Senate primary.  Trone and Alsobrooks both seem like solid mainstream progressives.  I’d be happy with either at this point, although I’d probably vote for Alsobrooks if I lived in Maryland.

Trone "progressive"!? That's a laugh.

On what major issues isn’t he a mainstream progressive?  Please cite with examples of specific policy positions.

Israel, (interest-conflicted) regulation, & no less an entity than socialism itself. What "mainstream progressive" is also a New Dem Problem Solver who not only hired a veteran Capitol Hill staffer with a specific reputation for serving moderate-leaning Blue Dog congressmen to be his Chief of Staff, but whose own website can literally be publicly quoted as follows?:

Steve Scully (0:14) - Let me begin with what the new Congress will look like, you will be now in the minority but a very narrow minority for the Democrats, the Republicans only, what a four-seat majority in 2023. So how’s that going to affect the leadership? If he becomes speaker? Kevin McCarthy. And where does that put moderate Democrats and moderate Republicans like you?

David Trone (0:36) - Well, I think it puts, if Kevin McCarthy can get the votes needed, 218 requisite votes needed, which, as we all know, he’s certainly struggling right now with some Freedom Caucus members who are not cooperating. But once he does that, and I think he will, I think the moderates are going to clearly be in a good spot, Republican moderates, Democrat moderates, we’re gonna have a chance to work together, with a agenda that can actually get accomplished. And sometimes in the past, we’ve overreached in our party, and that’s come back to bite us.

[...]

David Trone (2:43) - Well, as I might have noticed, like most folks have noticed, the January 6 Committee, we invited Republicans to be on. They made it crystal clear they didn’t want to be on. And we have two Republicans, both Kinzinger and Liz Cheney on the committee. And it’s been I think, believe, very, very balanced. I’m a moderate, and I’m looking for balance. We’re not looking to score political points. We want to put people over politics every day. And we need oversight. But we don’t need politics, American people are just sick and tired of it.

1) Opposing anti-Semitic hate groups like BDS =/= not being progressive
2) The Intercept is about as credible a source as Newsmax.  That said, the prohibition thing is obviously moronic if it’s actually true and not fake news.
3) Performative virtue signaling votes are not major issues
4) Unaware of the quote on the website.  Don’t love that (to put it mildly), but still not an actual major issue where he’s actually voted against progressive policies.

1. Tell that to no less of a mainstream progressive organization than the ACLU. BDS &, y'know, Israel & Palestine are pretty complicated topics; just flat-out ruling it anti-Semitic hate like you've just done isn't exactly progressive nor is it, incidentally, particularly Jewish (we're literally religiously taught to be critical & to not accept something blindly for the sake thereof), & I say those things as both a center-leftist &, y'know, as a Jew (who's thus not exactly crazy about anti-Semites!). FWIW, my take is that BDS is pretty clearly not inherently anti-Semitic as a concept for the same reason that not all criticism of the Israeli gov't. is inherently anti-Semitic (or else you & I have some *Conversations* to start having about Bibi), esp. if the endgame like that of some center left-to-leftist 2-staters such as myself's would be is just hopefully crossing fingers for outta-nowhere Sharon-style unilateral disengagement a-la de Klerk reversing Botha, but can & has definitely been used as a cover for anti-Semitism in exactly the same way that criticisms of the Israeli gov't. has been.

2. See for yourself (fun fact: the case is literally the only article listed under "See also" on the Trone-owned Total Wine & More's wiki page; incidentally, it's a great store with a great selection & I love shopping there, lol, Trone's still a mod tho)

3. "Performative virtue signaling votes" is literally AZ's Senior Senator rn, pretty major issue! (Getting ahead of you here, that was just a quip; no, Trone isn't Sinema 2.0, but that's not the progressive bar.)

4. To say nothing of the CoS also being something not to love, too, but thankfully it's not like the Senate has recently experienced a high-profile saga involving a CoS purportedly serving as a shadow Senator...


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Ted Lieu and Ruben Gallego voted for the anti-socialism resolution too, I guess that means they’re DINOs too Roll Eyes

Yes, all 263 Democrats in Washington should be chad Lizzie Fletcher clones, except for the Maryland delegation, which should just be alternating clones of Raskin, Mfume, freakin' Sarbanes, & God (formerly known as Steny Hoyer)
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« Reply #120 on: May 13, 2023, 08:24:19 PM »
« Edited: May 15, 2023, 11:55:17 AM by The Address That Must Not be Named »

The more I read about them, the more I come away with the impression that Trone and Alsobrooks would both make good Senators.  I think I’d probably prefer Alsobrooks, but I’d be happy either way.  Raskin probably shouldn’t run though.  We’ve got a decent shot at flipping the House which would make him Chair of a major committee and there are already two solid mainstream progressives running, one of whom shares Raskin’s Montgomery County base.  
Jawano said he'd drop out and run for the House if Raskin runs

I was referring to Trone, not Jawano.  I don’t think Jawano has a path to victory in the Senate primary.  Trone and Alsobrooks both seem like solid mainstream progressives.  I’d be happy with either at this point, although I’d probably vote for Alsobrooks if I lived in Maryland.

Trone "progressive"!? That's a laugh.

On what major issues isn’t he a mainstream progressive?  Please cite with examples of specific policy positions.

Israel, (interest-conflicted) regulation, & no less an entity than socialism itself. What "mainstream progressive" is also a New Dem Problem Solver who not only hired a veteran Capitol Hill staffer with a specific reputation for serving moderate-leaning Blue Dog congressmen to be his Chief of Staff, but whose own website can literally be publicly quoted as follows?:

Steve Scully (0:14) - Let me begin with what the new Congress will look like, you will be now in the minority but a very narrow minority for the Democrats, the Republicans only, what a four-seat majority in 2023. So how’s that going to affect the leadership? If he becomes speaker? Kevin McCarthy. And where does that put moderate Democrats and moderate Republicans like you?

David Trone (0:36) - Well, I think it puts, if Kevin McCarthy can get the votes needed, 218 requisite votes needed, which, as we all know, he’s certainly struggling right now with some Freedom Caucus members who are not cooperating. But once he does that, and I think he will, I think the moderates are going to clearly be in a good spot, Republican moderates, Democrat moderates, we’re gonna have a chance to work together, with a agenda that can actually get accomplished. And sometimes in the past, we’ve overreached in our party, and that’s come back to bite us.

[...]

David Trone (2:43) - Well, as I might have noticed, like most folks have noticed, the January 6 Committee, we invited Republicans to be on. They made it crystal clear they didn’t want to be on. And we have two Republicans, both Kinzinger and Liz Cheney on the committee. And it’s been I think, believe, very, very balanced. I’m a moderate, and I’m looking for balance. We’re not looking to score political points. We want to put people over politics every day. And we need oversight. But we don’t need politics, American people are just sick and tired of it.

1) Opposing anti-Semitic hate groups like BDS =/= not being progressive
2) The Intercept is about as credible a source as Newsmax.  That said, the prohibition thing is obviously moronic if it’s actually true and not fake news.
3) Performative virtue signaling votes are not major issues
4) Unaware of the quote on the website.  Don’t love that (to put it mildly), but still not an actual major issue where he’s actually voted against progressive policies.

1. Tell that to no less of a mainstream progressive organization than the ACLU. BDS &, y'know, Israel & Palestine are pretty complicated topics; just flat-out ruling it anti-Semitic hate like you've just done isn't exactly progressive nor is it, incidentally, particularly Jewish (we're literally religiously taught to be critical & to not accept something blindly for the sake thereof), & I say those things as both a center-leftist &, y'know, as a Jew (who's thus not exactly crazy about anti-Semites!). FWIW, my take is that BDS is pretty clearly not inherently anti-Semitic as a concept for the same reason that not all criticism of the Israeli gov't. is inherently anti-Semitic (or else you & I have some Conversations to start having about Bibi), esp. if the endgame like some center left-to-leftist 2-staters such as myself's would be is just hopefully crossing fingers for outta-nowhere Sharon-style unilateral disengagement a-la de Klerk reversing Botha, but can & has definitely been used as a cover for anti-Semitism in exactly the same way that criticisms of the Israeli gov't. has been.

2. See for yourself (fun fact: the case is literally the only article listed under "See also" on the Trone-owned Total Wine & More's wiki page; incidentally, it's a great store with a great selection & I love shopping there, lol, Trone's still a mod tho)

3. "Performative virtue signaling votes" is literally AZ's Senior Senator rn, pretty major issue! (Getting ahead of you here, that was just a quip; no, Trone isn't Sinema 2.0, but that's not the progressive bar.)

4. To say nothing of the CoS also being something not to love, too, but thankfully it's not like the Senate has recently experienced a high-profile saga involving a CoS purportedly serving as a shadow Senator...

I couldn’t care less what the ACLU thinks about BDS.  Speaking as a Jewish-American who considers Netanyahu an irredeemable, corrupt, racist, fascistic aspiring dictator and as someone who supports a two state solution, I’d argue BDS is pretty clearly a hate group animated largely by anti-Semitism.  So we’re just gonna have to agree to disagree on that one.  
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« Reply #121 on: May 13, 2023, 08:31:44 PM »

The more I read about them, the more I come away with the impression that Trone and Alsobrooks would both make good Senators.  I think I’d probably prefer Alsobrooks, but I’d be happy either way.  Raskin probably shouldn’t run though.  We’ve got a decent shot at flipping the House which would make him Chair of a major committee and there are already two solid mainstream progressives running, one of whom shares Raskin’s Montgomery County base.  
Jawano said he'd drop out and run for the House if Raskin runs

I was referring to Trone, not Jawano.  I don’t think Jawano has a path to victory in the Senate primary.  Trone and Alsobrooks both seem like solid mainstream progressives.  I’d be happy with either at this point, although I’d probably vote for Alsobrooks if I lived in Maryland.

Trone "progressive"!? That's a laugh.

On what major issues isn’t he a mainstream progressive?  Please cite with examples of specific policy positions.

Israel, (interest-conflicted) regulation, & no less an entity than socialism itself. What "mainstream progressive" is also a New Dem Problem Solver who not only hired a veteran Capitol Hill staffer with a specific reputation for serving moderate-leaning Blue Dog congressmen to be his Chief of Staff, but whose own website can literally be publicly quoted as follows?:

Steve Scully (0:14) - Let me begin with what the new Congress will look like, you will be now in the minority but a very narrow minority for the Democrats, the Republicans only, what a four-seat majority in 2023. So how’s that going to affect the leadership? If he becomes speaker? Kevin McCarthy. And where does that put moderate Democrats and moderate Republicans like you?

David Trone (0:36) - Well, I think it puts, if Kevin McCarthy can get the votes needed, 218 requisite votes needed, which, as we all know, he’s certainly struggling right now with some Freedom Caucus members who are not cooperating. But once he does that, and I think he will, I think the moderates are going to clearly be in a good spot, Republican moderates, Democrat moderates, we’re gonna have a chance to work together, with a agenda that can actually get accomplished. And sometimes in the past, we’ve overreached in our party, and that’s come back to bite us.

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David Trone (2:43) - Well, as I might have noticed, like most folks have noticed, the January 6 Committee, we invited Republicans to be on. They made it crystal clear they didn’t want to be on. And we have two Republicans, both Kinzinger and Liz Cheney on the committee. And it’s been I think, believe, very, very balanced. I’m a moderate, and I’m looking for balance. We’re not looking to score political points. We want to put people over politics every day. And we need oversight. But we don’t need politics, American people are just sick and tired of it.

1) Opposing anti-Semitic hate groups like BDS =/= not being progressive
2) The Intercept is about as credible a source as Newsmax.  That said, the prohibition thing is obviously moronic if it’s actually true and not fake news.
3) Performative virtue signaling votes are not major issues
4) Unaware of the quote on the website.  Don’t love that (to put it mildly), but still not an actual major issue where he’s actually voted against progressive policies.

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Ted Lieu and Ruben Gallego voted for the anti-socialism resolution too, I guess that means they’re DINOs too Roll Eyes

Yes, all 263 Democrats in Washington should be chad Lizzie Fletcher clones, except for the Maryland delegation, which should just be alternating clones of Raskin, Mfume, freakin' Sarbanes, & God (formerly known as Steny Hoyer)

Are you okay?  Sorry for the double post, but I literally can’t tell what you’re even talking about with this bit.
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« Reply #122 on: May 14, 2023, 05:04:05 AM »

Who is Hoyer likely to back?
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« Reply #123 on: May 14, 2023, 05:45:46 AM »

It won't matter Alsobrooks is gonna win like Barbara Lee is gonna win, we need blk Senators that's been the issue with Sinema and the Filibuster we had ignored getting rid of the Filibuster
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« Reply #124 on: May 14, 2023, 08:51:39 AM »


Alsobrooks. She’s very quickly becoming the establishment candidate in this race.
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