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« on: April 03, 2021, 04:38:12 PM »



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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2021, 06:15:44 PM »

So maybe less "coup" and maybe more """""coup""""".

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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2021, 06:26:45 PM »

From a collapse in turnout to a universal decimation of nearly a decade of growth recently, the Jordanian monarchy has responded to pressure of changing the economic and political sphere by brute force. The crackdown that will ensue now will only get worse as there's very little hope that US and Israeli aid will be enough to get an antiquated monarchy's economy out of the hole.

Jordan is conforming to similar trends in the Arabian Gulf, and the current king isn't as able to maneuver over this as Oman's Qaboos was.
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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2021, 05:45:10 AM »

So was this a Saudi backed thing or not?
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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2021, 01:27:45 PM »

So was this a Saudi backed thing or not?

Furthermore, if it was Saudi-backed, were Israel and the UAE also involved?

IIRC Jordan is not happy about the Deal of the Century in regard to Israel-Palestine.
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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2021, 01:28:43 PM »

So maybe less "coup" and maybe more """""coup""""".




Yeah perhaps this was merely the result of royal paranoia, which is endemic to monarchical governments.

Though isn't Jordan supposed to be closer to a constitutional monarchy than the Gulf states?
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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2021, 01:38:24 PM »

From the CNN article:

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regional powers including Egypt and Saudi Arabia have voiced support for King Abdullah

Makes sense. As a general rule, none of these governments want to lend credibility to political opposition to other governments in the region, for obvious reasons. The exceptions that prove the rule are either outright adversaries (Iran) or at least, bitterly annoy them (Turkey, Qatar), or are situations in which regional autocrats support military and security forces to roll back or pre-empt democracy after another autocrat is overthrown (Egypt, Sudan).
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« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2021, 01:47:03 PM »

Though isn't Jordan supposed to be closer to a constitutional monarchy than the Gulf states?

It is but it still has a much more politically active, powerful, and (thus?) corrupt royal family than we find with constitutional monarchies in the West.
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« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2021, 10:51:44 PM »

Though isn't Jordan supposed to be closer to a constitutional monarchy than the Gulf states?

It is but it still has a much more politically active, powerful, and (thus?) corrupt royal family than we find with constitutional monarchies in the West.

Just wait until the Jacobites take the Liechtenstein throne.
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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2021, 12:10:40 PM »


Though isn't Jordan supposed to be closer to a constitutional monarchy than the Gulf states?

It is but it still has a much more politically active, powerful, and (thus?) corrupt royal family than we find with constitutional monarchies in the West.

Just wait until the Jacobites take the Liechtenstein throne.

Joke's on them, Liechtenstein is not a real country and I refuse to change my mind on this.
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« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2021, 12:23:42 AM »

Though isn't Jordan supposed to be closer to a constitutional monarchy than the Gulf states?

It is but it still has a much more politically active, powerful, and (thus?) corrupt royal family than we find with constitutional monarchies in the West.

I am skeptical that the hereditary quasi-dictators of Jordan are particularly more corrupt than the hereditary quasi-dictators of, for example, the United Kingdom. The difference would more appear to be that the UK has been politically stable, and the corruption is normalized and seen as legitimate. But I don't think that necessarily equate with less corrupt.

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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2021, 08:50:54 AM »

Your points about our royal family are valid, and have been made before.

I would still maintain that there is a difference of degree, though.
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