MO SEN GOP PRIMARY (Remington) : Greitens leads by a small margin
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« on: March 30, 2021, 03:24:43 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2021, 03:25:08 PM »

Erotic Eric may be back, folks.
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2021, 03:26:07 PM »

He will lose by double digits.
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2021, 03:28:39 PM »


Wait until Cocaine Mitch begins to wage a total war against him...
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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2021, 03:33:57 PM »

Numbers for those who don't want to read the full pwoer point :

Two ways race :
Greitens : 40%
Schmitt : 39%

Three ways race with Smith :
Greitens : 36%
Schmitt : 29%
Smith : 16%

Three ways race with Long :
Greitens : 36%
Schmitt : 30%
Long : 14%

Three ways race with Wagner :
Greitens : 38%
Schmitt : 26%
Wagner : 18%
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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2021, 05:09:45 PM »

inb4 three way primary produces the worst possible candidate allowing the Democrat to win.
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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2021, 07:42:18 PM »

I am very confident this will age well.
Greitens is the Kobach 2020 of this race.
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2021, 08:09:14 PM »

I don’t think he’ll win the primary, but obviously if he does, he’ll get to be a Senator despite... well, everything.
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2021, 11:33:51 PM »

inb4 three way primary produces the worst possible candidate allowing the Democrat to win.

Even on a good night, D's would win OH and NC before MO, which is red, I had hopes, but Covid cases are starting to rise limiting the Ds takeover chances
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« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2021, 01:25:31 AM »

I don’t think he’ll win the primary, but obviously if he does, he’ll get to be a Senator despite... well, everything.
Yeah.

He'll be the frontrunner going into the primary, dems will see him as their best shot of taking the seat, he'll lose, whoever wins the primary will poll competitive with the democrat anyway, win by double digits, people will conclude that Greitens would have won the general if he had won the primary so it's a damn good thing he lost.

Kansas senate 2020 all over again.
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« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2021, 01:45:14 AM »

I don’t think he’ll win the primary, but obviously if he does, he’ll get to be a Senator despite... well, everything.
Yeah.

He'll be the frontrunner going into the primary, dems will see him as their best shot of taking the seat, he'll lose, whoever wins the primary will poll competitive with the democrat anyway, win by double digits, people will conclude that Greitens would have won the general if he had won the primary so it's a damn good thing he lost.

Kansas senate 2020 all over again.

If "whoever wins the primary" does not happen to be Eric Greitens or Roy Blunt but is still polling competitive with the Democrat, that would likely suggest a very underwhelming cycle for Republicans even if they outperform their polling by close to double digits in MO. Then again, you’re right that people shouldn’t place much faith in polling in general, even when they factor in likely biases.
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« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2021, 08:23:29 AM »
« Edited: April 02, 2021, 10:38:07 AM by Stuart98 »

I don’t think he’ll win the primary, but obviously if he does, he’ll get to be a Senator despite... well, everything.
Yeah.

He'll be the frontrunner going into the primary, dems will see him as their best shot of taking the seat, he'll lose, whoever wins the primary will poll competitive with the democrat anyway, win by double digits, people will conclude that Greitens would have won the general if he had won the primary so it's a damn good thing he lost.

Kansas senate 2020 all over again.

If "whoever wins the primary" does not happen to be Eric Greitens or Roy Blunt but is still polling competitive with the Democrat, that would likely suggest a very underwhelming cycle for Republicans even if they outperform their polling by close to double digits in MO. Then again, you’re right that people shouldn’t place much faith in polling in general, even when they factor in likely biases.
Missouri polls were terrible last year and I have faith that they will continue to be terrible.
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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2021, 01:14:39 PM »

Missouri polls were terrible last year and I have faith that they will continue to be terrible.

They might not be as bad in 2022. They were far more accurate in 2018 than in 2016 or 2020, and the state is now moving left (very, very slowly). If the polls match their polling to the 2020 electorate, they may well be polling an electorate to the right of the state. (This is why Georgia polls were accurate in 2020 - they underestimated how much the state had changed, so they polled an electorate to the right of the state, and with Trumpist turnout, almost every state "votes to the right of itself.")

The polls underestimated Hawley's win, but they did correctly have him winning for most of the race, especially the post-Kavanaugh portion of the race. They also got McCaskill's percentage (45.6%) exactly right. It seems to have just been the same "undecideds are closeted Republicans" phenomenon that we've seen all over the Midwest since 2016, so I imagine in 2022 that's the way to unskew polls.
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