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« Reply #3050 on: February 29, 2024, 10:03:41 PM »

He might but he won't do as well. But it's the sort of result that is a plausible springboard for contesting somewhere in the local elections.
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« Reply #3051 on: February 29, 2024, 10:04:16 PM »

Does Tully now run in the GE with his numbers being as good as they were?
Now is probably the time for him to do that if he ever is to do so.
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« Reply #3052 on: February 29, 2024, 10:04:21 PM »

Does Tully now run in the GE with his numbers being as good as they were?

One has to imagine he's now going to be approached by the Greens for some seat, since they basically backed him here with results.

They backed the guy who got 1.5%.

Oops, got te indies confused. My bad.
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« Reply #3053 on: February 29, 2024, 10:05:38 PM »

Does Tully now run in the GE with his numbers being as good as they were?

One has to imagine he's now going to be approached by the Greens for some seat, since they basically backed him here with results.

They backed the guy who got 1.5%.

Oops, got te indies confused. My bad.
The Greens disowned the official Green candidate, didn't they?
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« Reply #3054 on: February 29, 2024, 10:07:28 PM »

Does Tully now run in the GE with his numbers being as good as they were?

One has to imagine he's now going to be approached by the Greens for some seat, since they basically backed him here with results.

They backed the guy who got 1.5%.

Oops, got te indies confused. My bad.
The Greens disowned the official Green candidate, didn't they?

Yeah and they endorsed a different indie. I thought Tully was that indie for a moment before rechecking the Teale guide.
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« Reply #3055 on: February 29, 2024, 10:12:30 PM »

Well that looks rather... er... racialized. Though it was always going to.

The turnout and his share of the vote are both high enough that he must have won a fair number of white voters. To the extent Reform tried to polarise the electorate along those lines, it instead seems plausible that more of their target voters voted for Galloway than them.
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« Reply #3056 on: February 29, 2024, 10:18:54 PM »

Can Galloway hold the seat in the general election?
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« Reply #3057 on: February 29, 2024, 10:19:46 PM »

Does Tully now run in the GE with his numbers being as good as they were?

One has to imagine he's now going to be approached by the Greens for some seat, since they basically backed him here with results.

They backed the guy who got 1.5%.

Oops, got te indies confused. My bad.
The Greens disowned the official Green candidate, didn't they?

Yeah and they endorsed a different indie. I thought Tully was that indie for a moment before rechecking the Teale guide.
Ah.
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« Reply #3058 on: February 29, 2024, 10:22:41 PM »

Can Galloway hold the seat in the general election?

The only certainty is that it will be quite a nasty campaign.
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« Reply #3059 on: February 29, 2024, 10:23:17 PM »

Can Galloway hold the seat in the general election?
A lot of different stars would have to align for that to happen, but in a coming Labour landslide where they will (likely) have a normal candidate, basically no chance.
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« Reply #3060 on: February 29, 2024, 10:24:44 PM »

An absolute nightmare of a coalition here...

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« Reply #3061 on: February 29, 2024, 10:27:51 PM »

I wonder how many of Ali's votes were cast after he was drop-kicked? I suspect not many. It does seem to settle the question of what happens when a candidate is disendorsed in a by-election as opposed to a GE.
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« Reply #3062 on: February 29, 2024, 11:02:59 PM »

Can Galloway hold the seat in the general election?
A lot of different stars would have to align for that to happen, but in a coming Labour landslide where they will (likely) have a normal candidate, basically no chance.

Although if everyone expects a Labour landslide there may be some effect of feeling comfortable with a local protest vote (whereas if the election looks close, there would be more pressure to elect a Labour MP).

Seems like it was a mistake for the Lib Dems to not try here, but on the other hand unless they could get some direct votes from Galloway, the numbers wouldn’t have worked out for them even if they were more effective at squeezing down Labour and the Tories and ate Tully’s lunch entirely.
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« Reply #3063 on: March 01, 2024, 12:07:10 AM »

W for Galloway!
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« Reply #3064 on: March 01, 2024, 12:32:09 AM »

Hilarious election.
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« Reply #3065 on: March 01, 2024, 01:28:20 AM »

Hah! Guess people do pay more attention than they get credit.

It’s annoying because despite the fact we’ll walk this seat in the GE, the cowards in HQ will insist on wasting time and resources to beat Galloway.

May be interesting to see if Galloway actually runs in Rochdale in a GE or chooses a seat more favourable to him.
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« Reply #3066 on: March 01, 2024, 03:19:03 AM »

I wonder how many of Ali's votes were cast after he was drop-kicked? I suspect not many. It does seem to settle the question of what happens when a candidate is disendorsed in a by-election as opposed to a GE.

There were conflicting reports about when postal votes were actually sent out, but some said that they weren't until 15 February, which was after the disendorsements. I assume he picked up some votes from people who didn't know what had happened or thought he'd been hard done by, and may have got some "stop Galloway" votes; I don't know how obvious it was on the ground that the "stop Galloway" vote was Tully, but even if it was quite obvious some people won't have noticed.

One thing that Labour can take some solace in is that the other major parties, including Reform UK, completely failed to take advantage of their misfortune. I don't think the Lib Dems or Tories really tried, and their results reflect that (as well as the national problems in the Tories' case) but I suspect Reform UK regret their choice of candidate.

Given that Galloway got nearly 40% on a respectable turnout by by-election standards, I think the question has to be asked whether he would have won even without the disendorsements. I'm going for possibly, but I suspect he got a decent number of votes which would otherwise have gone Labour, and surely some Labour voters did stay at home; maybe he'd have been in the low to mid 30s, so beatable but not clear-cut?
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« Reply #3067 on: March 01, 2024, 04:12:34 AM »

Can Galloway hold the seat in the general election?

His recent track record in General Elections, including Bradford West after his by-election win there, is unimpressive.
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« Reply #3068 on: March 01, 2024, 04:13:43 AM »

I mean the most comforting thing for Labour is it shows the might of our campaign machine, simply disowning Ali made him unviable.
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« Reply #3069 on: March 01, 2024, 04:22:33 AM »





That's what Labor deserves for being pro-genocide.
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« Reply #3070 on: March 01, 2024, 04:26:39 AM »





That's what Labor deserves for being pro-genocide.
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« Reply #3071 on: March 01, 2024, 05:21:56 AM »

I wonder how many of Ali's votes were cast after he was drop-kicked? I suspect not many. It does seem to settle the question of what happens when a candidate is disendorsed in a by-election as opposed to a GE.
Wasn’t it established that the suspension occurred before postal votes were sent out.
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« Reply #3072 on: March 01, 2024, 06:17:36 AM »
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That's what Labor deserves for being pro-genocide.

Labour voted for an immediate ceasefire last week.
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« Reply #3073 on: March 01, 2024, 06:45:26 AM »

An absolute nightmare of a coalition here...

Objectively talented as he is, Galloway is losing his touch: this isn't Scotland, none of his target voters care about self-ID. He'd have been better off talking about immigration. Anyway I wonder how Gillian Duffy voted: last I read, she's still alive and living in the constituency.
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« Reply #3074 on: March 01, 2024, 06:49:15 AM »

An absolute nightmare of a coalition here...

Objectively talented as he is, Galloway is losing his touch: this isn't Scotland, none of his target voters care about self-ID. He'd have been better off talking about immigration. Anyway I wonder how Gillian Duffy voted: last I read, she's still alive and living in the constituency.

She was a drinking pal of Danczuk when he was MP IIRC.
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