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« Reply #575 on: July 01, 2021, 10:53:44 PM »

2nd Bundle check. Full recount possible, but administrators apparently disfavor such a move.
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« Reply #576 on: July 01, 2021, 10:54:33 PM »

Normally holding this seat very narrowly would be seen as a bad result for Labour but it’s all about expectations and since everyone seemed to expect an easy Tory win, a Labour hold even by the narrowest of margins will be seen as a big win for Keir Starmer
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« Reply #577 on: July 01, 2021, 10:55:20 PM »

A bundle check is when they make sure that none of the bundles of ballots (you will note that they are all neatly tied together like legal documents) are in the wrong place. It is not the same as a recount, which when all of the individual ballots are counted again. There can be full recounts (the whole constituency) or partial ones (a particular group of ballots).
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« Reply #578 on: July 01, 2021, 10:57:45 PM »

2nd Bundle check. Full recount possible, but administrators apparently disfavor such a move.

They take forever and generally only switch a few votes so are, as a general rule, only permitted when we're talking a bare handful of votes in it.
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« Reply #579 on: July 01, 2021, 11:04:08 PM »

Labour apparently requested the second count.
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« Reply #580 on: July 01, 2021, 11:04:45 PM »

Labour apparently requested the second count.
oh no, that doesn't sound good for them.
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« Reply #581 on: July 01, 2021, 11:08:06 PM »

Labour ahead according to Twitter
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« Reply #582 on: July 01, 2021, 11:10:14 PM »

Labour <300 is the number going around on twitter, not sure what the source is. First site to report it was BBC, then Sky, then locals - but I saw it before on rando handles.

Galloway's team's group body language displays disappointment right now inside the building.
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« Reply #583 on: July 01, 2021, 11:24:44 PM »

Declared Results:

Labour: 13296
Conservatives: 12973
Galloway: 8264
LD: 1254

Others: 1908

Lab hold
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« Reply #584 on: July 01, 2021, 11:26:25 PM »

You love to see it.

Galloway--regrettably--really didn't do that badly in the grand scheme of things.
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« Reply #585 on: July 01, 2021, 11:26:53 PM »

Declared Results:

Labour: 13296
Conservatives: 12973
Galloway: 8264
LD: 1254

Others: 1908

Lab hold

Glad to have been wrong about Labour. Sad that Galloway hit over 20%
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« Reply #586 on: July 01, 2021, 11:27:38 PM »


The result is a ing meme, imagine telling people that Galloway would get 22% of the vote but labour would still win.
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« Reply #587 on: July 01, 2021, 11:28:00 PM »

Declared Results:

Labour: 13296
Conservatives: 12973
Galloway: 8264
LD: 1254

Others: 1908

Lab hold

Interesting that Labour won even though Galloway did much better than his polling.

I'm sure Labour would have lost with any other candidate though.
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« Reply #588 on: July 01, 2021, 11:28:04 PM »

GALLOWAY SPLIT THE TORY VOTE
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« Reply #589 on: July 01, 2021, 11:30:26 PM »

Phew…

If you’d told me Galloway would get that much, I’d have expected a Tory win.  I wonder where Galloway’s vote actually came from: did he actually get a decent share of the Heavy Woollen Indies vote, for a start?
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« Reply #590 on: July 01, 2021, 11:33:00 PM »

Phew…

If you’d told me Galloway would get that much, I’d have expected a Tory win.  I wonder where Galloway’s vote actually came from: did he actually get a decent share of the Heavy Woollen Indies vote, for a start?

It looks like there would have been a swing to Labour if Batley and Spen used preferential voting, Labour got lucky with a split opposition in 2019 and the Tories couldn't win despite a split opposition now.
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« Reply #591 on: July 01, 2021, 11:33:29 PM »

Phew…

If you’d told me Galloway would get that much, I’d have expected a Tory win.  I wonder where Galloway’s vote actually came from: did he actually get a decent share of the Heavy Woollen Indies vote, for a start?

What I've been hearing is that he did eat into Labour's vote, but Leadbeater flipped a good chunk of former Tory voters to compensate.
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« Reply #592 on: July 01, 2021, 11:35:58 PM »

I suspect that the answer to a lot of this, yes, is an unexpectedly good result for Labour in the Spen Valley (less Heckmondwike), the sort of numbers they used to poll long ago and far away when it was a very different place to today. In other words, an example of 'It's Not Cricket' syndrome in action: when there's a rallying effect from unlikely quarters towards a candidate subjected to noisy and personally abusive opposition.
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« Reply #593 on: July 01, 2021, 11:39:44 PM »

Galloway isn't accepting the election results and promising to sue to get it set aside.
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« Reply #594 on: July 01, 2021, 11:42:16 PM »

Galloway isn't accepting the election results and promising to sue to get it set aside.


What a clown.
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« Reply #595 on: July 01, 2021, 11:42:23 PM »

Galloway isn't accepting the election results and promising to sue to get it set aside.


Atlasia-level statement tbh.
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« Reply #596 on: July 01, 2021, 11:52:49 PM »

I see this is some people's first time experiencing the perennial oddball that is George Galloway.
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« Reply #597 on: July 01, 2021, 11:58:11 PM »

I see this is some people's first time experiencing the perennial oddball that is George Galloway.

I greatly admired Galloway in the mid-2000s as someone who, like most left-of-center Americans my age, cut my political teeth on opposing the Iraq War and the religiously-inflected jingoism that went along with it. Of course, I was twelve at the time.
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« Reply #598 on: July 01, 2021, 11:59:46 PM »

323 vote margin. Lol, Starmer already fêteing himself for barely holding on here. Rayner should run, it's time for this assclown to go.
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« Reply #599 on: July 02, 2021, 12:07:19 AM »

323 vote margin. Lol, Starmer already fêteing himself for barely holding on here. Rayner should run, it's time for this assclown to go.

These things are an expectations game. Labour barely holding a seat like this is objectively a travesty, but considering that it's the first seriously contested by-election this Parliament where the incumbent party hasn't been unceremoniously turfed out on a massive swing, it starts to look a lot like the shiniest turd.
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