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« Reply #450 on: June 17, 2021, 09:51:51 PM »

They actually did it! Amazing!
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« Reply #451 on: June 17, 2021, 10:26:32 PM »

I can't believe the Liberals would overperform in a by-election, out of nowhere. This has never happened before.
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« Reply #452 on: June 17, 2021, 10:28:05 PM »

Does anybody have a video of the decleration ?

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« Reply #453 on: June 17, 2021, 10:33:12 PM »

Does anybody have a video of the decleration ?



No, I think only a local radio station covered the election. Most of the media was noticeably absent.
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« Reply #454 on: June 17, 2021, 10:38:28 PM »

Does anybody have a video of the decleration ?



No, I think only a local radio station covered the election. Most of the media was noticeably absent.
nah, I found a video from elsewhere.


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« Reply #455 on: June 17, 2021, 10:48:21 PM »

Does anybody have a video of the decleration ?



No, I think only a local radio station covered the election. Most of the media was noticeably absent.
nah, I found a video from elsewhere.




The guy doing the declaration sounds North American
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« Reply #456 on: June 17, 2021, 10:54:49 PM »

Does anybody have a video of the decleration ?



No, I think only a local radio station covered the election. Most of the media was noticeably absent.
nah, I found a video from elsewhere.



The guy doing the declaration sounds North American
Seems to be an american immigrant, studied at the university of Iowa and High School is Spencer,Iowa.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/george-anson-2b1673a7/?originalSubdomain=uk
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« Reply #457 on: June 17, 2021, 11:09:58 PM »

The Tories were better so not really case for celebration
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« Reply #458 on: June 18, 2021, 01:09:08 AM »

None of the right-of-centre Britposters have commented yet so I guess I should say something.

It always sucks to lose but losing to satirical, joke parties sucks even more.

Whilst a LibDem victory isn't that shocking, the scale of the victory definitely is.  Fair to say this result wasn't expected at CCHQ.  There's no way to spin this.

It's too early to draw any conclusions about a "realignment" but the Tories really need to be careful that while pushing into northern Labour territory they aren't abandoning their traditional southern base.  At the moment they have large majorities in these southern seats but that increasingly looks like it's built on sand.

Big oof for me.
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« Reply #459 on: June 18, 2021, 01:57:14 AM »

Not shocked by the result but very shocked by that margin.

lmao

I suppose we've been overdue this sort of classic Liberal by-election upset and, as noted above, there were some excellent local issues to work with. Presumably there will be some frothing and indignation on the government backbenches which may or may not have consequences.

Did it really boil down to "NIMBYism" or is there subtler stuff going on locally in Buckinghamshire as well? I wasn't really following this one until seeing the (hilarious) result.

Itís certainly a big driver; but there were signs in the locals that the Tories were losing support to the closest opposition in lots of its southern seats (sometimes the Greens, sometimes the Liberals and other times Labour in areas of Kent) Thereís also the case that these sort of Tory voters are an afterthought in the Governments political strategy.

I wouldnít be particularly panicking in terms of the national result if I was a Tory- the Lib Demís were campaigning in this seat before the previous incumbent had passed away.

While the public broadly support it I wonder if the lockdown extension had a minor impact- the date was chosen in the hope it would come just after the Govt re-opened.
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« Reply #460 on: June 18, 2021, 02:03:14 AM »
« Edited: June 18, 2021, 02:19:54 AM by Geoffrey Howe »

Now, if the Tories gain Batley and Spen...


Plus, can we admire the Labour result? 1.6%; possibly the worst they've ever got in a by-election.
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« Reply #461 on: June 18, 2021, 02:17:07 AM »

Well, we know now that the result will be the opposite of whatever I suggest it might be.
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« Reply #462 on: June 18, 2021, 02:40:51 AM »

Now, if the Tories gain Batley and Spen...


Plus, can we admire the Labour result? 1.6%; possibly the worst they've ever got in a by-election.

It just barely "beats" their 1.7% in the 1997 Winchester by-election.
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« Reply #463 on: June 18, 2021, 02:42:48 AM »

Now, if the Tories gain Batley and Spen...


Plus, can we admire the Labour result? 1.6%; possibly the worst they've ever got in a by-election.

It just barely "beats" their 1.7% in the 1997 Winchester by-election.

Labour were in government then...
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« Reply #464 on: June 18, 2021, 02:44:43 AM »
« Edited: June 18, 2021, 03:50:31 AM by Blair »

Now, if the Tories gain Batley and Spen...


Plus, can we admire the Labour result? 1.6%; possibly the worst they've ever got in a by-election.

It just barely "beats" their 1.7% in the 1997 Winchester by-election.

And were polling miles better in 1997- it was another Lib-Dem Tory battle- we saw this in Richmond in 2016 too.

I donít know why people (and by that I mean Twitter.com) are rushing to declare this a terrible result for Starmer (there should be a law for theory that everything revolves around Labour).

They just need to wait for the terrible batley and spen results for judgement day- letís just have a rare day enjoying a Tory defeat!

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« Reply #465 on: June 18, 2021, 02:45:50 AM »

Not wanting to get myself suspended but I know lots of Labour members who voted for Olney in 2016 and 2019- tactical voting can happen.
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« Reply #466 on: June 18, 2021, 02:54:17 AM »

People in hopeless seats for Labour tactically voting for the Lib Dems is the least of Starmer's problems.  (And is nothing new, especially in by-elections, even if this was a particularly extreme example.)

I don't know how many of them there are, but I imagine Sarah Green may well have won among the constituency's Labour membership.
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« Reply #467 on: June 18, 2021, 03:47:27 AM »

Obviously I don't think this is somehow a bad result for Starmer. It's just always nice to see Labour on 1.6% Cheesy , but if it's at the expense of the Lib Dems on 56%...
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« Reply #468 on: June 18, 2021, 03:52:00 AM »

The Labour Party needs the Lib Demís to be winning seats like this- itís why I was so emotionally invested in Davey winning!
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« Reply #469 on: June 18, 2021, 03:55:46 AM »

Of course there are now very few seats where Labour and the Lib Dems are genuinely competitive against each other, and I assume some of the Lib Dem support in seats like Two Cities will recede enough.
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« Reply #470 on: June 18, 2021, 04:29:02 AM »

It is of course entirely possible that the fallout from this result makes a Labour loss in B&S less likely. At the very least, had they remotely foreseen this possibility the Tories might well have tried to ensure both contests were held on the same day.
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« Reply #471 on: June 18, 2021, 05:15:37 AM »


A bit overconfident
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« Reply #472 on: June 18, 2021, 05:23:21 AM »

It doesn't mean much but it's funny nonetheless:
Labour got fewer votes than they have members in this seat.
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« Reply #473 on: June 18, 2021, 05:30:44 AM »


A bit overconfident

The video of Davey breaking it down feels Ianuccian...

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« Reply #474 on: June 18, 2021, 05:37:42 AM »

It doesn't mean much but it's funny nonetheless:
Labour got fewer votes than they have members in this seat.

Same happened in Richmond in 2016.
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