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« Reply #1150 on: May 03, 2022, 05:43:46 AM »

Actually this raises an interesting question - will they want Wakefield and Tiverton & Honiton on the same day or a little apart? Get it all out of the way or stagger any blows?

Same day- I was going to say that Wakefield is the easier defence but that just shows how much my brain has been rotted by red wall discourse and how little faith I have in Labours by-election machine…

Given the circumstances of the vacancy, definitely not.
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« Reply #1151 on: May 03, 2022, 09:59:53 AM »

Wakefield is finally officially vacant: Imran Ahmad Khan has been appointed Steward and Bailiff of the Three Hundreds of Chiltern.  The writ can't be moved until Parliament is sitting again, though.
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« Reply #1152 on: May 04, 2022, 07:40:17 AM »

Wakefield is finally officially vacant: Imran Ahmad Khan has been appointed Steward and Bailiff of the Three Hundreds of Chiltern.  The writ can't be moved until Parliament is sitting again, though.

... and now "The Chancellor of the Exchequer has this day appointed Neil Quentin Gordon Parish to be Steward and Bailiff of the Manor of Northstead."  So Tiverton & Honiton is vacant too.
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« Reply #1153 on: May 04, 2022, 08:34:25 AM »

The voteuk Wakefield thread is a real trip
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« Reply #1154 on: May 04, 2022, 02:07:18 PM »


It's quite funny when you realise quite how close to each other two of the main participants live. It's like neighbours ringing each other up to scream abuse down the phone...
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« Reply #1155 on: May 04, 2022, 06:04:18 PM »

It's quite funny when you realise quite how close to each other two of the main participants live. It's like neighbours ringing each other up to scream abuse down the phone...
Lets hope they don't encounter each other at the count tomorrow...
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« Reply #1156 on: May 04, 2022, 06:09:13 PM »

It is funny seeing the new Wakefield Yorkshire Party guy in voteuk interact with regulars.
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« Reply #1157 on: May 04, 2022, 07:06:54 PM »


It's quite funny when you realise quite how close to each other two of the main participants live. It's like neighbours ringing each other up to scream abuse down the phone...
I find it interesting how it's escalated to threats of legal action and over the top hysterics about  personal safety and threats. A real tempest in a teacup.
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« Reply #1158 on: May 04, 2022, 07:46:06 PM »

It is funny seeing the new Wakefield Yorkshire Party guy in voteuk interact with regulars.
I'm not sure if you know this, but the Tory candidate in Wakefield in 2017 is an ex-VoteUK member.

And according to Al was a massive POS.
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« Reply #1159 on: May 05, 2022, 08:30:19 AM »

The result of Claudia Webbe's appeal against her conviction is due fairly soon, so its not impossible we could have three Westminster byelections in pretty quick succession.
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« Reply #1160 on: May 06, 2022, 09:01:12 AM »

It's quite funny when you realise quite how close to each other two of the main participants live. It's like neighbours ringing each other up to scream abuse down the phone...
Lets hope they don't encounter each other at the count tomorrow...
Update - One of the Lib Dem activists has posted that a newly elected Labour councillor got a restraining order against a fellow poster and Conservative councillor.

I am calling for a complete and total shutdown of Wakefield until we figure out what the hell is going on!
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« Reply #1161 on: May 06, 2022, 09:05:11 AM »

It's quite funny when you realise quite how close to each other two of the main participants live. It's like neighbours ringing each other up to scream abuse down the phone...
Lets hope they don't encounter each other at the count tomorrow...
Update - One of the Lib Dem activists has posted that a newly elected Labour councillor got a restraining order against a fellow poster and Conservative councillor.

I am calling for a complete and total shutdown of Wakefield until we figure out what the hell is going on!
I hope that the good residents of Wakefield are aware of what their deputy council leader get's up to on an obscure psephology forum with other local canidates. I think a local paper should be informed about this.
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« Reply #1162 on: May 06, 2022, 03:12:35 PM »

The result of Claudia Webbe's appeal against her conviction is due fairly soon, so its not impossible we could have three Westminster byelections in pretty quick succession.

Four, unless Jeffrey Donaldson decides to stay at Westminster and co-opt someone into his Assembly seat.
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« Reply #1163 on: May 06, 2022, 04:32:53 PM »

Ah yes, there were rumours of that months ago but it now looks set to actually go ahead given that the attempt to reprieve NI "double jobbing" failed.
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« Reply #1164 on: May 08, 2022, 08:38:18 AM »

Lol that leaflet.

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« Reply #1165 on: May 08, 2022, 10:33:52 AM »

Didn’t I read that the local councils that fall in the Wakefield constituency voted Albour by a very wide margin on Thursday? That should be a good predictor of an easy Labour win here
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« Reply #1166 on: May 08, 2022, 11:06:14 AM »

Didn’t I read that the local councils that fall in the Wakefield constituency voted Albour by a very wide margin on Thursday? That should be a good predictor of an easy Labour win here



The real question therefore will be if such a large margin repeats itself. Wakefield in 2019 was more of less even with the national labour-tory margin, Whether the swing back is larger or smaller than the national polling will help answer many questions.
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« Reply #1167 on: May 08, 2022, 11:09:21 AM »

The (general) trend is for governments to do worse in Westminster byelections than polls suggest.
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« Reply #1168 on: May 08, 2022, 12:13:07 PM »
« Edited: May 08, 2022, 12:16:52 PM by Tintrlvr »

The result of Claudia Webbe's appeal against her conviction is due fairly soon, so its not impossible we could have three Westminster byelections in pretty quick succession.

Four, unless Jeffrey Donaldson decides to stay at Westminster and co-opt someone into his Assembly seat.

Maybe to avoid the embarrassment of being the first DUP Deputy First Minister?

I wonder if the Alliance could make a serious play for Lagan Valley in a by-election. The numbers don't feel like they are there, but if the UUP do just well enough, and there are enough nationalist tactical votes, maybe.
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« Reply #1169 on: May 08, 2022, 01:56:08 PM »

The map shown there is of Wakefield district which is much larger than the constituency - and more Labour as well. The constituency is at its western end. Anyway, a comparison map between the 2021 and 2022 results would be more dramatic!
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« Reply #1170 on: May 08, 2022, 02:11:13 PM »

The map shown there is of Wakefield district which is much larger than the constituency - and more Labour as well. The constituency is at its western end. Anyway, a comparison map between the 2021 and 2022 results would be more dramatic!
Yeah, it was IIRC a 5% Conservative lead last year so a 22% shift since then! The caveats are that 2021 saw a freak Conservative victory in Wakefield East while 2022 saw the Conservative incumbent splitting the vote as an independent in Wrenthorpe and Outwood West. Still, Wakefield seems the sort of place that swung disproportionately to Labour this year, and if the local MP being convicted of being a nonce had any extra negative impact then it’s hardly going to have any less in a by-election...
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« Reply #1171 on: May 09, 2022, 09:54:45 AM »

Various local worthies now throwing their hats in the ring to be Labour's candidate in Wakefield.
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« Reply #1172 on: May 12, 2022, 02:51:17 AM »

Any hunches/guesses on when they have it?

If I was in Government I would want to be delaying it… hope Labours poll lead fades and time it with the Durham announcement just in that vague hope.

On reflection the whole process is mad- it should be easier to resign as an MP and it should simply be ‘X number of working days’ after you resignation is a the by-election date (with carve outs for holidays etc)
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« Reply #1173 on: May 12, 2022, 11:19:07 AM »

No by-election in Lagan Valley: Donaldson is staying in Westminster, and the DUP will be co-opting his seat at Stormont. Makes one wonder if the whole thing was just to make Edwin Poots sweat.
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« Reply #1174 on: May 13, 2022, 01:44:46 AM »

Reports that Neil Tractor Parish is thinking of standing as an independent and has raised funds.

Would be hilarious.
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