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President Punxsutawney Phil
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« on: March 10, 2021, 01:07:48 AM »

God Bless Tim Ryan.
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2021, 06:20:36 PM »

Of course, the Woke and Intersectionalist garbage is to avoid the issues of income inequality.  Without formally announcing it, the Democrats have become the party of Big Business.
The first sentence is wrong and anybody who has heard the Squad or Bernie give  a speech knows this.

The second sentence is true, but that has to do with the "less woke", more centrist, more establishment wing of the party and not the progressive wing. Of course, they'll always be #2 to the Republicans for getting into bed with big business.

The Squad are not the controlling faction of today's Democratic Party.  While I loathe them on a number of levels, they are not corporate shills, and there's a place for that.

There is, I agree, no party in America that is the kind of pro-labor party Ryan's speech typifies.  If there were, the Keystone XL pipeline would not have been stopped by Biden.

Nah, the Pipeline never would've been proposed or taken up in such a case. Pollution isn't pro-labor.
Creating jobs in the extraction industry is pro-labor. Having them being unionized is even more pro-labor of course.
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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2021, 09:08:44 PM »

The Squad are not the controlling faction of today's Democratic Party.  While I loathe them on a number of levels, they are not corporate shills, and there's a place for that.

There is, I agree, no party in America that is the kind of pro-labor party Ryan's speech typifies.  If there were, the Keystone XL pipeline would not have been stopped by Biden.

Nah, the Pipeline never would've been proposed or taken up in such a case. Pollution isn't pro-labor.
Creating jobs in the extraction industry is pro-labor. Having them being unionized is even more pro-labor of course.
Handouts to non-union employers are by definition not "pro-labor."
It's only non-pro-labor if it comes at the expense of unionized workers. Some jobs is pro-labor compared to no jobs, and some unionized jobs is pro-labor compared to generic some jobs.
What matters above all is that the working class is earning a livelihood and has the infastructure to improve their bargaining power.
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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2021, 10:32:34 PM »

What is likely happening is that you say pro-labor and my mind is meshing pro-worker and pro-labor into one.
Not sure why I jumped in. Usually I'm better when it comes to the topic of precise terminology.
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