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« Reply #475 on: April 20, 2021, 10:27:55 PM »

So I'm guessing he'll go to solitary confinement for his own protection?

Probably.
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« Reply #476 on: April 20, 2021, 10:37:44 PM »

From the looks of things, everything went well for tonight. Congrats to society.👏👏
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« Reply #477 on: April 21, 2021, 12:09:39 AM »

Guys, bad news. :/

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« Reply #478 on: April 21, 2021, 12:20:20 AM »

Guys, bad news. :/


Damn. If Donetsk imposes sanctions, the US could lose over $100 in exports!!!
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« Reply #479 on: April 21, 2021, 06:28:35 AM »

Since much of the left and Atlas seems to think Bill Clinton is some closet racist who signed the 1994 crime bill to make the police kill more black men, I'd just like to point out he put out a very nice statement on today's verdict.



Yes, being in general pro-police and "tough" (1994 crime bill) on crime as Clinton and Biden [and a lot of Conservatives] are is not the same as being racist or being pro-police-brutality. In fact, it the opposite - if you want police to be as tough-on-crime and effective as possible, you want to get rid of or jail the rotten ones.
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« Reply #480 on: April 21, 2021, 07:55:14 AM »

I think the verdict will probably be guilty of third-degree murder. Second-degree would require a finding of intent to inflict pain or harm, which will always be difficult to prove in such a case unless the officer had been subjecting the victim to a stream of "I'm gonna get you good, sucker!"-type taunts.

While I wasn't completely accurate in my prediction, I was in the minority of those here who thought he'd be convicted of a murder charge. While I understand why the defense tried to cast doubt upon the cause of death (it was essential if they were to have any hope of not being found guilty of the manslaughter charge) I didn't think they had done so. Given the facts as presented, that left only whether the jury would find there was sufficient evidence of intent to support the finding of assault needed for conviction of second-degree murder. I hadn't paid close enuf attention to the case to determine either that I would have convicted him of second-degree murder if I had been on the jury or that the jury was likely to so convict.

Note, I am not saying the jury was wrong in their decisions, just that I didn't pay enuf attention to decide on the second-degree charge. Determining intent beyond a reasonable doubt is always going to be difficult. Given past tendencies to give cops the benefit of doubt, I thought that would be the most difficult charge to prove.

Tho, in hindsight, swinging for the fences in trying to defeat the manslaughter charge probably made it more difficult to avoid conviction on the murder charges. If I thought my client could convincingly appear remorseful, then as a defense attorney, I'd have at least considered the possibility of essentially conceding the manslaughter charge and have my client show remorse to the jury in hopes of avoiding convictions on the murder charges. But it's awfully hard to show remorse for doing something you claim you didn't do.
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« Reply #481 on: April 21, 2021, 08:04:24 AM »

Yeah in hindsight I think his best strategy may have been to plead guilty to manslaughter, then take the stand and admit he knows he was reckless and did something wrong but he wasn't trying to kill Floyd.
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« Reply #482 on: April 21, 2021, 08:16:24 AM »


Why do they keep doing this?

In the girlfriend’s case, it’s understandable. She is trying to rationalise an event that caused much personal grief.
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« Reply #483 on: April 21, 2021, 08:28:57 AM »

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« Reply #484 on: April 21, 2021, 08:39:07 AM »

Tucker had a pretty normal one last night:

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« Reply #485 on: April 21, 2021, 08:44:51 AM »

Pleasantly surprised this conviction finally happened. Hope the dude gets a long sentence for the murder.
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« Reply #486 on: April 21, 2021, 08:53:41 AM »

Tucker had a pretty normal one last night:



The f**k was that laugh?
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« Reply #487 on: April 21, 2021, 09:04:23 AM »

Tucker had a pretty normal one last night:



He used to be just annoying when he was on Crossfire, but he's progressed into become totally insane. That aside, these sort of people don't want to hear from the police when they aren't saying what they want to hear. The response that I'm seeing from conservatives is that they are angry about the verdict but too cowardly to admit that.
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« Reply #488 on: April 21, 2021, 09:38:17 AM »

Tucker had a pretty normal one last night:



He used to be just annoying when he was on Crossfire, but he's progressed into become totally insane. That aside, these sort of people don't want to hear from the police when they aren't saying what they want to hear. The response that I'm seeing from conservatives is that they are angry about the verdict but too cowardly to admit that.

It's even worse than that; he doesn't even believe any of this crap.  He's just embracing white supremacy as a ratings strategy.
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« Reply #489 on: April 21, 2021, 09:55:02 AM »

Tucker had a pretty normal one last night:



He used to be just annoying when he was on Crossfire, but he's progressed into become totally insane. That aside, these sort of people don't want to hear from the police when they aren't saying what they want to hear. The response that I'm seeing from conservatives is that they are angry about the verdict but too cowardly to admit that.

It's even worse than that; he doesn't even believe any of this crap.  He's just embracing white supremacy as a ratings strategy.

Doesn't make a difference, imho, whether he actually believes this crap or just pretends for ratings. Both is horrible.
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« Reply #490 on: April 21, 2021, 10:26:51 AM »

Guys, bad news. :/


The U.S. is going to explode now!
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« Reply #491 on: April 21, 2021, 10:34:19 AM »

Tucker had a pretty normal one last night:



He used to be just annoying when he was on Crossfire, but he's progressed into become totally insane. That aside, these sort of people don't want to hear from the police when they aren't saying what they want to hear. The response that I'm seeing from conservatives is that they are angry about the verdict but too cowardly to admit that.

Seriously WTF was that?
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« Reply #492 on: April 21, 2021, 10:38:38 AM »

Yessssss.

Lock him up !
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« Reply #493 on: April 21, 2021, 10:42:19 AM »
« Edited: April 21, 2021, 01:21:34 PM by Unbeatable Titan Eva Copa »

Since much of the left and Atlas seems to think Bill Clinton is some closet racist who signed the 1994 crime bill to make the police kill more black men, I'd just like to point out he put out a very nice statement on today's verdict.



I mean, having the right position on one of the most blatantly obvious cases of police brutality in God knows how long, where even the officer’s own police force threw them under the bus, is not really great evidence against a history of reinforcing an unjust and racist criminal justice system.
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« Reply #494 on: April 21, 2021, 11:49:40 AM »

Mug shot of Chauvan, he though he was gonna get convicted only on manslaughter and have a chance to get a minimium sentence, he still is going for that but he is likely to get 10 yrs not 3 to 5

3rd degree is gonna drop off, due to fact Floyd contributed to his own demise
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« Reply #495 on: April 21, 2021, 03:36:54 PM »

Chauvin in his new uniform.

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« Reply #496 on: April 21, 2021, 04:25:58 PM »

He's gonna spend a decade imprisoned eating that bad dog food that they give you for meals, it's not deli food

But, he is alive and Floyd isn't which is unfair
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« Reply #497 on: April 21, 2021, 04:28:17 PM »

He's gonna spend a decade imprisoned eating that bad dog food that they give you for meals, it's not deli food

But, he is alive and Floyd isn't which is unfair

Do you speak from personal experience?
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« Reply #498 on: April 21, 2021, 04:33:24 PM »

Today's Star Tribune front page:


And today's editorial cartoon:
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« Reply #499 on: April 21, 2021, 08:09:21 PM »

Why are editorial cartoonists always so far up their own asses?
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