Would Giuliani have beaten Democrats in the NYC tristate area in 2008?
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« on: March 03, 2021, 09:17:59 PM »

He was the 9/11 mayor, pro-choice, pro-LGBTQ rights, anticrime, appealing to suburban voters.....
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2021, 09:12:47 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2021, 06:08:53 PM »

No, although he would've done slightly better than John McCain. Larger margin in Staten Island and maybe he would have kept the rest of the suburbs/exurbs closer, perhaps even winning Suffolk, Nassau, or Rockland.
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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2021, 09:10:21 AM »
« Edited: July 25, 2021, 12:58:42 PM by GregTheGreat657 »

He would lose NYC (save for Staten Island), but carry Rockland, Nassau, and Suffolk Counties. Most of North Jersey would probably vote Giuliani, as a lot of Giuliani's base from when he was mayor, moved there. CT might be harder, as there was less of the original Giuliani base who lived there.
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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2021, 05:35:16 PM »

He would lose NYC (save for Staten Island), but carry Rockland, Nassau, and Suffolk Counties. Most of North Jersey would probably vote Giuliani, as a lot of Giuliani's base from when he was mayor, moved there. CT might be harder, as there was less of the original Giuliani base who lived there.

Enough for NJ to flip Republican in 2008?

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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2021, 05:36:08 PM »

He would lose NYC (save for Staten Island), but carry Rockland, Nassau, and Suffolk Counties. Most of North Jersey would probably vote Giuliani, as a lot of Giuliani's base from when he was mayor, moved there. CT might be harder, as there was less of the original Giuliani base who lived there.

Enough for NJ to flip Republican in 2008?


South Jersey was bluer back then, so that would have been just enough to save Obama in the state
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« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2021, 06:16:37 PM »

He would lose NYC (save for Staten Island), but carry Rockland, Nassau, and Suffolk Counties. Most of North Jersey would probably vote Giuliani, as a lot of Giuliani's base from when he was mayor, moved there. CT might be harder, as there was less of the original Giuliani base who lived there.

Enough for NJ to flip Republican in 2008?


South Jersey was bluer back then, so that would have been just enough to save Obama in the state

Would Giuliani have won Passaic and Middlesex? States that haven't voted GOP since Bush 1988
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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2021, 06:18:21 PM »

He would lose NYC (save for Staten Island), but carry Rockland, Nassau, and Suffolk Counties. Most of North Jersey would probably vote Giuliani, as a lot of Giuliani's base from when he was mayor, moved there. CT might be harder, as there was less of the original Giuliani base who lived there.

Enough for NJ to flip Republican in 2008?


South Jersey was bluer back then, so that would have been just enough to save Obama in the state

Would Giuliani have won Passaic and Middlesex? States that haven't voted GOP since Bush 1988
Yes, but by the skin of his teeth
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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2021, 09:01:18 AM »

He would lose NYC (save for Staten Island), but carry Rockland, Nassau, and Suffolk Counties. Most of North Jersey would probably vote Giuliani, as a lot of Giuliani's base from when he was mayor, moved there. CT might be harder, as there was less of the original Giuliani base who lived there.

Enough for NJ to flip Republican in 2008?


South Jersey was bluer back then, so that would have been just enough to save Obama in the state

Would Giuliani have won Passaic and Middlesex? States that haven't voted GOP since Bush 1988
Yes, but by the skin of his teeth

Wow. I think Obama would have won NJ by 4 points. But Giuliani would have lost the election
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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2021, 02:24:20 PM »

He would lose NYC (save for Staten Island), but carry Rockland, Nassau, and Suffolk Counties. Most of North Jersey would probably vote Giuliani, as a lot of Giuliani's base from when he was mayor, moved there. CT might be harder, as there was less of the original Giuliani base who lived there.

Enough for NJ to flip Republican in 2008?


South Jersey was bluer back then, so that would have been just enough to save Obama in the state

Would Giuliani have won Passaic and Middlesex? States that haven't voted GOP since Bush 1988
Yes, but by the skin of his teeth

Wow. I think Obama would have won NJ by 4 points. But Giuliani would have lost the election

What a bizarre back and forth. Obama would've won by at least 10 points regardless of who was the nominee. McCain was a pretty good fit for the state himself, which is how it was kept to Obama +15 in a Dem wave election. Giuliani could've kept it to maybe +11/12, but he would not have caused NJ to vote to the right of the nation.
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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2021, 02:19:33 PM »

He would lose NYC (save for Staten Island), but carry Rockland, Nassau, and Suffolk Counties. Most of North Jersey would probably vote Giuliani, as a lot of Giuliani's base from when he was mayor, moved there. CT might be harder, as there was less of the original Giuliani base who lived there.

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Expanding on remarks he first made to the Staten Island Advance, Molinari said the election of Mayor Giuliani on the Republican and Liberal lines in 1993 was “an aberration.”

“It’s just a political fact of life,” added Molinari, one of the mayor’s closest allies. “Our base has moved out to New Jersey and Connecticut and been replaced by Democrats.”

https://nypost.com/1999/03/03/2001-a-race-oddity-molinari-backs-hevesi/
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