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AuH2O
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« on: June 17, 2004, 10:16:13 pm »

This is what happens when you remove a civilized government in the interests of "democracy," aka Communism.

You get neither freedom, nor democracy, nor equality, but genocide and poverty.
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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2004, 06:52:09 am »

How was it brutal? What atrocities were committed?

How is the current government better?

Why is everyone poorer now?
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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2004, 06:54:14 am »

Mugabe is a lot worse, and it's not even debatable.
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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2004, 04:45:26 pm »

The country's economy has been destroyed. Even with a problematic social/political system, there can be reform. But when destroy the economic base- particularly the agriculture necessary to feed the populace- you cause a permanent change for the worse.

I'm not saying whether Smith or Mugabe is a better guy, rather, which regime did/has done more to hurt the country.
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2004, 11:06:42 pm »

When in history have Sub-Saharan Africans produced a real civilization???

No, the like 10 years of being Pharoah do not count.
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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2004, 09:24:33 pm »

No, I meant real civilizations, not make-believe tales.

i.e. cases where there is evidence of their existence...
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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2004, 05:31:40 pm »

Yeah, of course there have been tribes... however, there is no African equivalent to the Romans, Chinese, Atzecs, etc.
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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2004, 04:50:25 pm »
« Edited: June 24, 2004, 04:51:10 pm by AuH2O »

Sure, you named some big tribes, but that isn't the same as a civilization. The Romans had the aqueducts, massive road systems, the Colosseum, etc. Chinese people built the Great Wall. Africans have accomplished nothing of significance... ever. History tends to focus on things that matter, which is why Africa does not figure prominently.

Microevolution is probably to blame. African societies prioritized skills such as hunting prowess, since there was more than enough food available. In other places, survival was more difficult. Heck, Caucasoids and Mongoloids probably left Africa because the Negroids were kicking their butts.

But the downside is, when someone figured out a better way to do things, they were declared a witch or whatever and eaten for dinner. Over enough generations, the effect becomes significant.

Oh, and Jens, are you in college? Curious what school you go to.
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