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« on: February 24, 2021, 04:44:03 PM »

February 8-9
937 registered voters

Ron Johnson approval

48% disapprove
35% approve
17% not sure

Biden approval: 47/45 (+2)
Gubernatorial race: 45/44 Evers
Scott Walker favorability: 42/48 (-6)

https://mobile.twitter.com/USA_Polling/status/1364683684675284993
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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2021, 04:47:53 PM »

Interesting that even these dudes can't give better numbers to Evers/Biden. (Also it seems that the poll was done for a progressive third group and these polls tend to be much more dem friendly than the polls they are doing for themselves).
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2021, 04:59:03 PM »

Interesting that even these dudes can't give better numbers to Evers/Biden. (Also it seems that the poll was done for a progressive third group and these polls tend to be much more dem friendly than the polls they are doing for themselves).

If that's how you want to spin this.

Regardless, the crosstabs look fine. I'm also interested to see how pollsters fare without Trump on the ballot.
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2021, 05:06:30 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2021, 05:50:46 PM »

He痴 too good for this state, but I知 of course still rooting for six more years of RoJo!

High five, Young Conservative (we値l do it again) Wink
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2021, 06:13:14 PM »

Johnson must not be underestimated. He's won twice, once against a popular three-term incumbent and once after being triaged.
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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2021, 06:14:42 PM »

He痴 too good for this state, but I知 of course still rooting for six more years of RoJo!

High five, Young Conservative (we値l do it again) Wink

He exemplifies the conservative principal of being a whore. He's also even less than a businessman than Trump, he got his business by being a gold digger.
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2021, 06:29:33 PM »

Johnson must not be underestimated. He's won twice, once against a popular three-term incumbent and once after being triaged.
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He won in 2010 when Scott Walker was running for Gov and Paul Ryan was the Maj whip with Boehner and Canter Paul Ryan and Walker are gone

Rs act like Wzi is an R state Jim Doyle was elected Gov 2002-2010 and Baldwin won by 10 in 2018, Hillary was the only one to lose it
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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2021, 07:12:06 PM »

He痴 too good for this state, but I知 of course still rooting for six more years of RoJo!

High five, Young Conservative (we値l do it again) Wink

He exemplifies the conservative principal of being a whore. He's also even less than a businessman than Trump, he got his business by being a gold digger.
What do you have against whores
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2021, 07:27:15 PM »

Probably not going to matter, unfortunately.
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2021, 07:41:10 PM »

Probably not going to matter, unfortunately.

You are really pessimistic about WI, Johnson will lose
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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2021, 04:08:40 AM »

Interesting that even these dudes can't give better numbers to Evers/Biden. (Also it seems that the poll was done for a progressive third group and these polls tend to be much more dem friendly than the polls they are doing for themselves).

If that's how you want to spin this.

Regardless, the crosstabs look fine. I'm also interested to see how pollsters fare without Trump on the ballot.

Which crosstabs ? There is nothing, that should make you even more sceptic about this poll.
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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2021, 06:39:01 AM »

It's a Registered voter poll, how is Johnson at 35 approvals but Evers is only up 1
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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2021, 08:08:19 AM »

I don't trust PPP.
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« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2021, 08:11:06 AM »

Interesting that even these dudes can't give better numbers to Evers/Biden. (Also it seems that the poll was done for a progressive third group and these polls tend to be much more dem friendly than the polls they are doing for themselves).

If that's how you want to spin this.

Regardless, the crosstabs look fine. I'm also interested to see how pollsters fare without Trump on the ballot.

Which crosstabs ? There is nothing, that should make you even more sceptic about this poll.

How those polled voted in 2020 and the party breakdown being slightly more Republican than Democrat.
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« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2021, 08:15:38 AM »


PPP is the same to MI, WI and PA as Mason Dixon is to OH, FL and NC.

They are very accurate, the D's aren't gonna win the South, we are gonna win 291 EC wall
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« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2021, 08:40:38 AM »

The 35/48 number is what they wanted to make him look vulnerable. Too bad the other 17% undecided are overwhelmingly R-leaning. I mean, why didn't they poll a Democratic opponent? Maybe they just innocently forgot lol

Btw, pay no attention to their makeup of 2020 results, this is a sleazy trick they use to make their polls seem fair. I recall many polls of Iowa, Texas, Florida, etc. where the 2016 makeup was spot on but the poll was 7-10 points off.
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« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2021, 08:46:27 AM »

....this is a sleazy trick they use to make their polls seem fair.....

Why do I even bother?
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« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2021, 08:48:20 AM »


They were one of the most accurate pollsters in 2012. But the Trump years have not been kind to them.
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« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2021, 08:52:19 AM »

Wisconsin is a tied state...news at 11.
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« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2021, 08:53:18 AM »

....this is a sleazy trick they use to make their polls seem fair.....

Why do I even bother?


Because we should learn from our mistakes of mindlessly believing polling outlets with a track record of deception.
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« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2021, 08:53:45 AM »

The 35/48 number is what they wanted to make him look vulnerable. Too bad the other 17% undecided are overwhelmingly R-leaning. I mean, why didn't they poll a Democratic opponent? Maybe they just innocently forgot lol

Btw, pay no attention to their makeup of 2020 results, this is a sleazy trick they use to make their polls seem fair. I recall many polls of Iowa, Texas, Florida, etc. where the 2016 makeup was spot on but the poll was 7-10 points off.

I suspect that too. I remember Tillis having approval ratings like this in early 2019, and we all know how that turned out.
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« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2021, 08:56:22 AM »

NC is now an R state but WI is very much a D state
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« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2021, 09:10:42 AM »

....this is a sleazy trick they use to make their polls seem fair.....

Why do I even bother?


Because we should learn from our mistakes of mindlessly believing polling outlets with a track record of deception.

That's why we have aggregates.

Regardless, out right dismissing a poll isn't any better than mindlessly believing it or worse yet, unskewing it.
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« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2021, 09:31:11 AM »


They were one of the most accurate pollsters in 2012. But the Trump years have not been kind to them.

I defended them in the lead-up to 2020 but I'm not willing to give them the benefit of the doubt again.
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