Do the Democrats still fear Donald J. Trump politically?

[SN2903]

Of course. Why else would they want to ban him from running for office? Pretty obvious. He came out of nowhere won and appealed to voters that no one thought he would appeal to.

[Tartarus Sauce]

They fear his supporters more than the man himself. Hatred and contempt are the emotions you are confusing for fear for here.

[TheReckoning]

I don’t know, but they shouldn’t be.

Trump is the best thing to happen for Democrats since perhaps Watergate.

[SN2903]

I don’t know, but they shouldn’t be.

Trump is the best thing to happen for Democrats since perhaps Watergate.

How?

[SnowLabrador]

Why wouldn't they? If he's the nominee, he has a good chance of winning. That's just reality.

[Bojack Horseman]

I don’t know, but they shouldn’t be.

Trump is the best thing to happen for Democrats since perhaps Watergate.

How?

Do you not know that we now control the House, the Senate, and the presidency?

[SN2903]

I don’t know, but they shouldn’t be.

Trump is the best thing to happen for Democrats since perhaps Watergate.

How?

Do you not know that we now control the House, the Senate, and the presidency?

Barely control the senate and the house.

[TheReckoning]

Why wouldn't they? If he's the nominee, he has a good chance of winning. That's just reality.

The ghost of Ronald Reagan has a higher chance of winning in 2024 than Trump.

[Alben Barkley]

Why wouldn't they? If he's the nominee, he has a good chance of winning. That's just reality.

Gee, maybe because we just beat him and took back a trifecta as a result of his toxicity in the suburbs. Which ain’t gonna get any better now that his supporters have gone full terrorist and he’s banned from social media, so he can’t fire up his base or control the narrative as much anymore.

The Georgia run-offs (which happened BEFORE the insurrection) are just a small preview of what price the GOP is gonna have to pay for some time to come for embracing Trump.

[Bootes Void]

I don’t know, but they shouldn’t be.

Trump is the best thing to happen for Democrats since perhaps Watergate.

How?

Do you not know that we now control the House, the Senate, and the presidency?

Barely control the senate and the house.

Being in a being hole back in 2017 with an unfavourable geography sure

[Bojack Horseman]

I don’t know, but they shouldn’t be.

Trump is the best thing to happen for Democrats since perhaps Watergate.

How?

Do you not know that we now control the House, the Senate, and the presidency?

Barely control the senate and the house.

As long as you have one more vote than the other side that's all that matters.

[Oregon Eagle Politics]

Yes, they fear his midwestern turnout/margins

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Yes, they fear his midwestern turnout/margins

All our states MI, WI and PA should have D Gov and 2 D Senators by 2024, since D's are expected to win both PA and WI in 2022 Midterms

MO, OH, NC, GA are wave insurance..Blunt, looks Vulnerable to Scott Sifton in that MO poll due to fact Hawley participated in Insurrectionists

[brucejoel99]

Of course. Why else would they want to ban him from running for office? Pretty obvious. He came out of nowhere won and appealed to voters that no one thought he would appeal to.

Because he literally incited an insurrection against Congress & shouldn't be granted the privilege & honor of again serving as a public officeholder as a result?

Just a thought.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Users particular some D's and Rs think that paying tribute to Rush Limbaugh and not paying tribute to Covid victims Mon, makes DeSantis and Trump unbeatable in 2024, which they aren't, Trump only won FL by 300K votes not 3M votes in FL. The same small margins he won against Hillary back in 2016


Most Atlas D's said DeSantis should he defeated, before the Election, but now we have unbeatable DeSANTIS by both D's and Rs which he isnt

Anyone can lose

[brucejoel99]

In any event, why would we? We beat him, we won, & if need be, we'll gladly do so again, so feel free to bring it on.

[DaleCooper]

They fear him because of his desire to destroy American democracy, but I think people, especially Republicans, are underestimating how much Trump relied on being able to control the narrative, especially after he became president. Without social media and without anyone on his side but Fox and the parody outlets like OAN, pretty much all 2024 will be with him as the candidate is re-litigating the deadly riot, his failure on COVID, and the tax and election fraud that he'll likely be tied up in court over. He doesn't have the platform necessary to control the narrative and he doesn't have the power to manufacture scandals to distract from whatever he's currently under fire for.

[Galeel]

I don’t know, but they shouldn’t be.

Trump is the best thing to happen for Democrats since perhaps Watergate.

How?

Do you not know that we now control the House, the Senate, and the presidency?

Barely control the senate and the house.

As long as you have one more vote than the other side that's all that matters.

Not really, if the Dems had 2 or 3 more senate seats then they could get a lot more done then they are with the current composition.

[Illiniwek]

I am worried he wins in 2024 and gets Congress as well. If so we are just about done as a democracy.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

I don’t know, but they shouldn’t be.

Trump is the best thing to happen for Democrats since perhaps Watergate.

How?

Do you not know that we now control the House, the Senate, and the presidency?

Barely control the senate and the house.

Imagine what the political landscape would look like if Jeb Bush (or Marco Rubio, or even Mike Pence) had defeated Hillary. The Democrats might not even take the House in 2022, and lose it in 2024 if they did. President NotTrump (R) cruises to re-election on the strength of not being animated feces  and not massively screwing up COVID response.

And that's before getting into how there's an large schism within the Democratic party between those who support the (non-Trumpist) parts of the status quo and those who thing American society need fundamental change, particularly in how we handle the economy, wealth, taxation, and corporate capture of the government. The threat Donald Trump poses has papered over much of that, as all the democratic factions unite in opposition to Trumpism. Plus, Trump has discredited isolationism and other internal friction points (by discrediting almost everything he touches), and as an extra bonus for the establishment (both Democratic and Republican), Trump has ensured that the populist right and the populist left won't unite politically (say, to tear down a government captured by the 1%) anytime in the next few decades.

Donald Trump was the best thing to happen to the Democratic Party since Herbert Hoover failed to deal with the Great Depression. (He's still done an immense amount of damage to the nation. But politically, he's the biggest gift the Democrats could possibly have.)

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

It's an SN thread, he still can't believe Trump lost get over it.

[TomC]

Yes, but more so because he has no respect for rules, laws, and fair play. Or consequences for that matter.

We’re not afraid of his “level of popularity.”

[Nyssus]

In some respects, yes, they still very much do. In other respects, they don't. The situation with Trump remains somewhat complex.

Trump is a populist -- well, brands himself as one -- and being the demagogue that he is, has managed to create a base of sturdy, unwavering supporters. Of course, he has different degrees of support within this base. You have the average person who voted for Trump in 2020, and then you have the QAnon subscribers and those who stormed the Capitol on January 6.

Is this base the majority of Americans? No, of course not. Were even diehard Trump supporters horrified on January 6? For sure. However, Trump has repeatedly shown his ability to lock the majority of Republican support, and still manages to keep many GOP members in Congress on a short leash. Despite no longer being president, or even owning a social media account at this point, Trump still has a rather unique ability to exort enormous influence, and remains a force to be reckoned with.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

We won't know until Covid is gone and we are in a new normal as long as Covid and there a Recession, some voters will blame the Prez in charge but we do have good Senate maps in 2022/2024

[Inmate Trump]

I'm seeing the same over-confidence in this thread that I saw just prior to Trump winning in 2016.