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« on: February 22, 2021, 07:44:09 PM »

Let's just say Trump is re-nominated as GOP nominee, and decides to run on Ultra Social Conservative policies, such as the Death Penalty for abortion, therapy, torture, or/and life sentences for Homosexuality/Bisexuality/etc., protect Israel at all costs, spread Evangelicalism to the world, and crush ideologies such as Feminism and Socialism/Social Democracy.
How bad would he do?
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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2021, 10:13:58 PM »

He'd get at least 45%. Who voted for Trump in 2020 that is turned off the idea of punishing political opponents and crushing feminism? I'd imagine there would be some who would be less than happy with the death penalty for homosexuality, but after all, his opponent would be a Democrat and anything's better than a socialist.
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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2021, 11:24:57 AM »
« Edited: February 23, 2021, 11:30:47 AM by EastOfEden »

Trump supporters would go from being unusually secular Republicans to being super-religious.

They support him no matter what he does. If he suddenly came out in support of the GND, it would be passed within a week with overwhelming Congressional and public support. These are people who have made a conscious decision to stop thinking and stop having their own views, and to let someone else decide their views for them.
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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2021, 03:36:01 PM »

The Washington Post will run an article about how Trump once compared Pat Buchanan to Attila the Hun when they were in the Reform Party together, but like all such notes on his character, it won't really change anyone's mind. 2024 would just be a continuation of current trends, albeit massively accelerated much like they were in 2016. NC probably flips, and maybe ME-02 swings back to its pre-Trump partisanship because of #secularism, but nothing else changes.
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2021, 08:26:58 PM »

It wouldn't work or help him. There's a reason Republican who don't attend church were consistently among his strongest voters in the 2016 primaries.
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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2021, 09:55:45 PM »

D+10 or so.
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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2021, 05:14:43 PM »

I’m not kidding when I say it would probably result in more Republicans going to church on a weekly basis. Not because of any renewed faith but because Trump told them to.

I think he’s maxed out with evangelicals, though. The ones that don’t support him are either die hard liberals (such people probably make up 30% of evangelicals) or the minority of conservatives such as myself who are not going back to Trump.

So he’s not getting the BRTD vote, he’s not getting the votes of people like me, and some evangelicals like ExtremeRepublican who voted for him twice probably aren’t going to be swayed one way or the other by this, so I don’t see where Trump gains from such a move.
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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2021, 11:38:12 PM »

I’m not kidding when I say it would probably result in more Republicans going to church on a weekly basis. Not because of any renewed faith but because Trump told them to.

I think he’s maxed out with evangelicals, though. The ones that don’t support him are either die hard liberals (such people probably make up 30% of evangelicals) or the minority of conservatives such as myself who are not going back to Trump.

So he’s not getting the BRTD vote, he’s not getting the votes of people like me, and some evangelicals like ExtremeRepublican who voted for him twice probably aren’t going to be swayed one way or the other by this, so I don’t see where Trump gains from such a move.

This is also why this would be a dumb strategy that he'd have nothing to gain from.

Some of the secular Trumpists might experience a Great Awakening but others may just decide they want nothing to do with it and drop out of politics or even go to the Democrats. There are a lot of working class white people in the Midwest who were really turned off by Republicans' Southern-accented moralism and didn't feel at home in the party until Trump came along for that reason.
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