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« Reply #600 on: July 19, 2022, 07:56:30 AM »

Walker now lies and says he was in the FBI, among other things

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« Reply #601 on: July 19, 2022, 09:07:26 AM »

Honestly, I think attacking Walker has to be done strategically because otherwise it may come across as bullying to some.
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« Reply #602 on: July 19, 2022, 09:40:02 AM »

Honestly, I think attacking Walker has to be done strategically because otherwise it may come across as bullying to some.

I mean, no one forced him to run for Senate. He put himself in this position. If he wants to be a United States Senator, he should have to be prepared to deal with the scrutiny that comes along with that.
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« Reply #603 on: July 19, 2022, 12:04:57 PM »

Honestly, I think attacking Walker has to be done strategically because otherwise it may come across as bullying to some.

Walker is, of course, a pitiable individual, even if that doesn't make him any more worthy of being in the US Senate; football was horrendously unsafe when he played, and given his mental issues he really shouldn't have been allowed to play. He definitely shouldn't have been put in a position where that was his most viable path to success in life. As such, I don't really think it makes sense to "bully" him. What would you even say? Everyone knows it isn't his fault, but it's still relevant when thinking about who should be our Senator.

The people who should really be bullied, imho, are the Georgia voters who want to unseat a perfectly good incumbent for a man clearly in need of serious mental help because partisanship so fully controls their thought at this point. Most of them have no excuse.
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« Reply #604 on: July 19, 2022, 10:03:32 PM »

Honestly, I think attacking Walker has to be done strategically because otherwise it may come across as bullying to some.

Walker is, of course, a pitiable individual, even if that doesn't make him any more worthy of being in the US Senate; football was horrendously unsafe when he played, and given his mental issues he really shouldn't have been allowed to play. He definitely shouldn't have been put in a position where that was his most viable path to success in life. As such, I don't really think it makes sense to "bully" him. What would you even say? Everyone knows it isn't his fault, but it's still relevant when thinking about who should be our Senator.

The people who should really be bullied, imho, are the Georgia voters who want to unseat a perfectly good incumbent for a man clearly in need of serious mental help because partisanship so fully controls their thought at this point. Most of them have no excuse.

I’m very curious to see how Warnock performs in a lot of the “moderate” Atlanta suburbs where he underran Biden in the special election despite doing better statewide. I have lost a lot of faith in places like Cherokee County which nets the GOP a lot of votes even though it’s been shifting left
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« Reply #605 on: July 19, 2022, 10:48:29 PM »

Honestly, I think attacking Walker has to be done strategically because otherwise it may come across as bullying to some.

It's darkly humorous that nobody even considers the possibility of simply not attacking your opponent anymore.
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« Reply #606 on: July 21, 2022, 08:43:59 AM »

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« Reply #607 on: July 21, 2022, 09:05:51 AM »

I hope he does debate Warnock. Which is exactly why the people propping him up most likely won't let him.
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« Reply #608 on: July 21, 2022, 06:48:42 PM »

If he refuses to attend debates, they should still be held with Warnock and an empty podium for Walker.

At the empty podium, play clips of Walker spewing nonsense in place of a live person. Get his insanity out there to more voters.
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« Reply #609 on: July 21, 2022, 08:27:27 PM »

If he refuses to attend debates, they should still be held with Warnock and an empty podium for Walker.

At the empty podium, play clips of Walker spewing nonsense in place of a live person. Get his insanity out there to more voters.

That would make for good ads
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« Reply #610 on: July 22, 2022, 09:36:55 AM »

Walker acting as if "no one is talking about" abortion rights is a.... choice. Especially for suburban constituencies.

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« Reply #611 on: July 22, 2022, 09:43:36 AM »

Walker acting as if "no one is talking about" abortion rights is a.... choice. Especially for suburban constituencies.

https://twitter.com/bluestein/status/1550217257774637057

I know, it's probably not a very popular opinion here and I'd love to be proven wrong, though I'm not fully convinced Roe / abortion is a deciding issue here. Sure, almost anybody has an opinion on abortion, though the issue itsself just affects a very limited number of people in their daily lives. On the other hand, inflation and affordability affects pretty much anyone.

I still consider Warnock a slight favorite because he's a strong candidate, I would just not bank on the abortion debate to save him. Dems must talk rising prices and other kitchentable issues.
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« Reply #612 on: July 22, 2022, 09:47:40 AM »

Walker acting as if "no one is talking about" abortion rights is a.... choice. Especially for suburban constituencies.

https://twitter.com/bluestein/status/1550217257774637057

I know, it's probably not a very popular opinion here and I'd love to be proven wrong, though I'm not fully convinced Roe / abortion is a deciding issue here. Sure, almost anybody has an opinion on abortion, though the issue itsself just affects a very limited number of people in their daily lives. On the other hand, inflation and affordability affects pretty much anyone.

I still consider Warnock a slight favorite because he's a strong candidate, I would just not bank on the abortion debate to save him. Dems must talk rising prices and other kitchentable issues.

It doesn't need to be "the" issue, but Walker effectively downplaying everything and saying that it doesn't matter at *all* on an issue that has overwhelming support (and with GA now fully implementing a 6-week ban), he's not only giving Warnock another thing to attack him on, but abortion rights are a huge issue for the exact voters who which GA is trending blue with, so activating them with these types of comments is just a terrible move imo.
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« Reply #613 on: July 22, 2022, 10:14:30 AM »

Walker acting as if "no one is talking about" abortion rights is a.... choice. Especially for suburban constituencies.

https://twitter.com/bluestein/status/1550217257774637057

I know, it's probably not a very popular opinion here and I'd love to be proven wrong, though I'm not fully convinced Roe / abortion is a deciding issue here. Sure, almost anybody has an opinion on abortion, though the issue itsself just affects a very limited number of people in their daily lives. On the other hand, inflation and affordability affects pretty much anyone.

I still consider Warnock a slight favorite because he's a strong candidate, I would just not bank on the abortion debate to save him. Dems must talk rising prices and other kitchentable issues.

It doesn't need to be "the" issue, but Walker effectively downplaying everything and saying that it doesn't matter at *all* on an issue that has overwhelming support (and with GA now fully implementing a 6-week ban), he's not only giving Warnock another thing to attack him on, but abortion rights are a huge issue for the exact voters who which GA is trending blue with, so activating them with these types of comments is just a terrible move imo.

Tbf, polling suggest in the Southeast outside of FL, abortion isn’t as much of a winning issue as it is elsewhere, and it only narrowly outperforms partisanship. It can be used for activating more Dems but won’t have the same electoral consequences as a place such as PA.
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« Reply #614 on: July 22, 2022, 11:03:54 AM »

I would disagree with that notion - state specific polls from Washington to Iowa have shown that abortion rights have ranked pretty high compared to other issues. In WA, I believe it was actually #1, and even in IA, with Cygnal, it was #2

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« Reply #615 on: July 25, 2022, 09:08:35 AM »


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« Reply #616 on: July 25, 2022, 09:13:32 AM »

God, that debate is gonna be a mess and a half. Not sure which one I'm more excited for - this one or the Fett/Oz one
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« Reply #617 on: July 25, 2022, 09:21:30 AM »

Deeply depressing that this race is basically a tossup.
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« Reply #618 on: July 25, 2022, 01:28:01 PM »

I think Herschel Walker will win 25% of blacks.
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« Reply #619 on: July 25, 2022, 02:06:41 PM »

I think Herschel Walker will win 25% of blacks.

You didn't by any chance come to this conclusion after a long and thoughtful discussion with your family friend's nephew's roomate's distant cousin, did you?
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« Reply #620 on: July 26, 2022, 03:52:15 PM »

New AJC poll out Wed morning.
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« Reply #621 on: July 28, 2022, 08:05:07 AM »

"for all the fans" .....

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« Reply #622 on: July 29, 2022, 10:13:26 AM »

Warnock and Walker are now 50-50 in 538's Deluxe Senate model.  Warnock is a 57% favorite in the Classic model.
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« Reply #623 on: July 29, 2022, 02:54:03 PM »

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« Reply #624 on: July 29, 2022, 03:06:28 PM »

Warnock and Walker are now 50-50 in 538's Deluxe Senate model.  Warnock is a 57% favorite in the Classic model.
Delux model is crap. Just use the classic with the understanding that it’s a snapshot of if the election were held today and not a prediction of the future.
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