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« on: February 15, 2021, 08:40:46 AM »
« edited: February 15, 2021, 09:59:27 PM by Asenath Waite »

HP Lovecraft
1912: TR (He didn't like Wilson IIRC)
1916: Hughes
1920: Cox (Anglophile so I think he might have supported League of Nations)
1924: Coolidge
1928: Hoover
1932: FDR
1936: FDR
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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2021, 11:16:00 AM »

You can also do "how they would have voted" in elections they weren't alive for also if you want. Lovecraft is an enigma, too racist for the modern day Democratic Party yet too progressive and elitist for the GOP.
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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2021, 05:35:24 PM »

Billy Graham

1940: FDR
1944: FDR
1948: Harry Truman
1952: Dwight Eisenhower
1956: Dwight Eisenhower
1960: Richard Nixon
1964: LBJ
1968: Richard Nixon
1972: Richard Nixon
1976: Jimmy Carter
1980: Ronald Reagan
1984: Ronald Reagan
1988: George HW Bush
1992: George HW Bush
1996: Bob Dole
2000: George W. Bush
2004: George W. Bush
2008: John McCain
2012: Mitt Romney
2016: Donald Trump
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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2021, 05:41:17 PM »

You can also do "how they would have voted" in elections they weren't alive for also if you want. Lovecraft is an enigma, too racist for the modern day Democratic Party yet too progressive and elitist for the GOP.

I think over time its more likely his racist views would weaken (especially once he learned about the Holocaust and results of Nazism-while Lovecraft initially praised Hitler, he became more and more dismayed by reports of violence and oppression in the Third Reich) then that his elitist vision of socialism would wobble. I don't see him voting for a Republican at the national level at any time post Depression except maybe for Nixon in 1972. A big question would be how much of a hawk Lovecraft becomes on foreign policy in the Cold War era since he was interventionist during World War I albeit on nationalistic rather than humanitarian grounds. In practice, Lovecraft would probably support social democratic views while being a sceptic of mass immigration and globalization and despising postmodernism/woke culture. If he was still alive today, Lovecraft would definitely have supported Bernie Sanders both times for President.
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2021, 07:26:04 PM »

I wonder who Al Smith would have voted for in elections following his death.
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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2021, 10:02:25 PM »

You can also do "how they would have voted" in elections they weren't alive for also if you want. Lovecraft is an enigma, too racist for the modern day Democratic Party yet too progressive and elitist for the GOP.

I think over time its more likely his racist views would weaken (especially once he learned about the Holocaust and results of Nazism-while Lovecraft initially praised Hitler, he became more and more dismayed by reports of violence and oppression in the Third Reich) then that his elitist vision of socialism would wobble. I don't see him voting for a Republican at the national level at any time post Depression except maybe for Nixon in 1972. A big question would be how much of a hawk Lovecraft becomes on foreign policy in the Cold War era since he was interventionist during World War I albeit on nationalistic rather than humanitarian grounds. In practice, Lovecraft would probably support social democratic views while being a sceptic of mass immigration and globalization and despising postmodernism/woke culture. If he was still alive today, Lovecraft would definitely have supported Bernie Sanders both times for President.

I could see that actually. There was one Lovecraft fan on YouTube who likened Lovecraft to Robert Byrd's having disavowed and expressed sincere regret at having been in the Klan and made (what I thought was a convincing case) that the trajectory Lovecraft was on at the end of his life would eventually have led to a similar evolution.
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2021, 10:11:57 PM »
« Edited: February 15, 2021, 10:15:51 PM by Asenath Waite »

I wonder who Al Smith would have voted for in elections following his death.


I could see him being a fairly consistent Democrat. Even though he became more conservative in the 30s he was basically a socially liberal cosmopolitan. I could see him occasionally breaking with the party at the national level. He may have supported Dewey in 44 and 48 (though maybe not as an instate political rival) and Eisenhower but I think would have supported every Democratic nominee after that and in some ways would be more at home in the modern day Democratic Party then he was in the New Deal era one.
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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2021, 10:21:57 PM »
« Edited: February 15, 2021, 10:26:17 PM by Asenath Waite »

Billy Graham

1940: FDR
1944: FDR
1948: Harry Truman
1952: Dwight Eisenhower
1956: Dwight Eisenhower
1960: Richard Nixon
1964: LBJ
1968: Richard Nixon
1972: Richard Nixon
1976: Jimmy Carter
1980: Ronald Reagan
1984: Ronald Reagan
1988: George HW Bush
1992: George HW Bush
1996: Bob Dole
2000: George W. Bush
2004: George W. Bush
2008: John McCain
2012: Mitt Romney
2016: Donald Trump

I wonder if Graham might have voted for Bill Clinton. I know they met quite a few times and I believe Clinton claimed him as a friend though he of course claimed that about a lot of people.

At any rate this brought someone else from the same generation to mind.

Frank Sinatra
1936: Born in December, 1915 so missed getting to vote by a month but definitely would have FDR
1940: FDR
1944: FDR
1948: Truman
1952: Stevenson
1956: Stevenson
1960: JFK
1964: LBJ
1968: Humphrey
1972: Nixon
1976: Could have gone either way, he was a Republican at this point (switched parties because of McGovern) so possibly Ford but possibly also Carter if he turned against Nixon and the GOP because of Watergate.
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush
1992: Clinton
1996: Clinton
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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2021, 08:15:35 AM »

Italo Calvino
1946: PCI
1948: PCI
1953: PCI
1958: PSI
1963: PSI
1968: PSIUP?
1972: PSIUP?
1976: Lean PSI but honestly oof
1979: See above
1983: PCI?

The first three are all but certain since he was a Communist Party member. Actually he might have just voted PSI till his death or maybe 1983, if I recall correctly he was friends with Antonio Giolitti.
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