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« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2021, 05:07:54 PM »

Presidency of Robert Todd Lincoln, 1893-1897:

Lincoln's second term went much like the first, although the death of his VP in 1894 led him to appoint Theodore Roosevelt as his VP. Unfortunately, Lincoln was struck with a bout of severe Typhoid Fever in late 1896, only months before he was due to leave office. With a successor already elected, he resigned early. The 38-year-old Roosevelt was now President.

1894 Mid-Terms:

Senate: 70-18

House: 304-47

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McKinley/Roosevelt: 60.2%
Bryan/Wilkerson: 39.8%


Senate: 67-21

House: 280-71
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« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2021, 05:17:43 PM »

Presidency of Theodore Roosevelt, 1897

Roosevelt was only going to be President for a tad under two months, but he decided to make the most of it. First, he appointed a Vice President (Rep. Zachary Yun Chen, R-CA), and moved into the White House. He didn't have time to do much though and left office (actually went back to being VP and 9th Dumpthwacket Circle (the 5,000 square foot French Provincial that was the VP's house).

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« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2021, 07:56:30 PM »

Presidency of William McKinley, 1897-1901

William McKinley didn't do much while in office, but laid the groundwork for many of the things accomplished by his successor. He did push a term limits act into the law as the 18th Amendment (prohibited Presidents from serving more than two terms, extendable to three by 8/10's majority in congress).

1898 Mid-Terms

Senate: 65-23

House: 246-105

1900 Election:



Roosevelt/Taft: 63.5%
Bryan/Kern: 36.1%


Senate: 66-22

House: 255-96
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« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2021, 08:24:37 PM »

Presidency of Theodore Roosevelt, 1901-1905

Theodore Roosevelt's Presidency is often ranked up there with Washington, Fremont, Grant, and BLANK, and for good reason. He rammed through several amendments, including:

19th: Women's Suffrage (All women over 21. Voting rights for 'widows and other property-owning women' had existed since 1889).

20th: Supreme Court Term Limits (18 years, so each president can appoint 1-2).

21st: Referendum (citizens can bring a question to the ballot box after achieving the signature of 4% of voters).

22nd: Bans all corporations from controlling over 75% of a market.

23rd: Bans all child labor for children under 16 (previously 14).

1902 Mid-Terms:

Senate: 67-23

House: 308-127

He also established a minimum wage ($0.70), (economy is on mid-50's levels, people).

And 'Social Security', a program where all people over 65 got money from the government to insure a well-funded retirement.

He also established AmeriCare, a program providing free Health Insurance for all citizens. The Democrats railed against all of this, but to say they were in for a rude shock would be an understatement:




Roosevelt/Taft: 90.4%
Bryan/Tillman: 8.3%

Senate: 77-13

House: 403-32

It turns out that railing against your people's welfare and nothing else doesn't go over very well, and Roosevelt won in the biggest landslide ever seen. Term 2.0 was right around the corner.
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« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2021, 08:46:18 PM »


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« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2021, 09:52:50 PM »

Presidency of Theodore Roosevelt, 1905-1909:

The country reached several milestones, including a life expectancy of 70 (over 15 years ahead of everyone else), poverty rate (under 0.1%), and GDP per capita (2020 $ Ajusted) of nearly $100,000 (ahead of everyone by a lot). By the time Roosevelt retired, the country was booming even more than before. Roosevelt also admitted Arizona, New Mexico, and Oklahoma into the Union.

1906 Mid-Terms:

Senate: 83-13

House: 399-36

1908 Election:



Wilson/Tillman: 48.2%
Taft/Hughes: 48.1%

William Taft, flying high on Roosevelt's popularity, didn't bother to campaign, while Wilson barnstormed around the country. To be fair, Wilson pulled a Cleveland and Taft actually won (unlike Cleveland, however, analysis of all ballots shows Taft won 55-43), but it was a shocker nonetheless.

Senate: 72-24

House: 327-108
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« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2021, 09:59:43 PM »

Man, what is it with Democrats ITTL rigging elections
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« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2021, 10:17:41 PM »

Man, what is it with Democrats ITTL rigging elections

The best way to stop the Democrats from being racist is having no electoral success. Most people born after ~1880 aren't at all racist (when the children of the people who went to the northern-sponsored schools begin to be born), so it is only a matter of time. In a few decades the dems will be the Center-Right and the Republicans will be Center-Left.
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« Reply #33 on: February 15, 2021, 01:56:29 AM »

Presidency of Woodrow Wilson, 1909-1912

Woodrow Wilson despised all of the Republican social programs and 'equality measures'. He was now ready to begin undoing them. The problem was that he didn't have a majority in congress, and after his relentless campaigning to get to the White House his health was incredibly fragile.

1910 Mid-Terms:

Senate: 77-19

House: 341-94

Unfortunately, the economy collapsed in mid-1912, beginning the Great Recession. Unemployment reached nearly 8%, and the economy tumbled. Wilson wasn't going to win re-election anyway, and the stress took a toll. On October 2, 1912, Woodrow Wilson died of cerebral hemorrhage.
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« Reply #34 on: February 15, 2021, 11:19:02 AM »

Surprised Wilson rigging the election didn't make him face the same fate as Cleveland.
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« Reply #35 on: February 15, 2021, 04:07:41 PM »

Presidency of Benjamin Tillman, 1912-1913

Benjamin Tillman was President for a very short time. A lot of this wasn't his own doing, as the Wilson vote-rigging scandals came to light during this time. But his vetoing of the Tomikarmura Voting Security Act basically sent the Republicans scrambling to find some way to get rid of him. Realizing they didn't have the votes for impeachment (actually they did, but with the elections coming up they wanted to take the high road). Instead, they decided to override every single one of his vetoes. Tillman was POTUS for 5 months, and EVERY SINGLE ONE of his 19 vetoes were overridden.

1912 Election:



Tomikarmura/Johnson: 69.8%
Tillman/Marshall: 27.1%

Senate: 81-15

House: 362-73
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« Reply #36 on: February 15, 2021, 07:42:52 PM »

Good Read but the south would Secede in 1856 in Fremont was elected the civil war would happen earlier
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« Reply #37 on: February 15, 2021, 08:27:54 PM »

Good Read but the south would Secede in 1856 in Fremont was elected the civil war would happen earlier
Didn't they?
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« Reply #38 on: February 15, 2021, 09:56:12 PM »

They did. The war ended in '60/'61. Thanks for the compliment.
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« Reply #39 on: February 16, 2021, 12:21:42 AM »

Presidency of James Tomikarmura, 1913-1917

James Freemont Tomikarmura had his work set out for him. First and foremost, he had to fix the economy, which was easily accomplished by re-implementing the Republican economic agenda. His majorities in Congress were large, and allowed him to do this. While 'JFT' had expected to focus on economic policy, the world had other plans. For the last few decades, tensions in Europe had been increasing. In 1913, it simmered over. At the beginning, only 2% of Americans wanted to join the war, and before 6/12 it never got higher than 14%. Then (obviously) came 6/12. On December 6, 1914, the battleship U.S.S. Grant (which at 1,031 feet was far larger than anything anyone else had) was doing a patrol run from Boston to Dover, and at around 8:32 PM, a German U-Boat fired on the vessel. One of the torpedoes hit the midsection, right below the ammo storage, and the whole ship went down in three minutes. Within one day, the % of people wanting war went to over 95%. With a heavy heart, President Tomikarmura declared war on the Central Powers.

1914 Midterms:

Senate: 80-16

House: 315-85

1916 Election:



Senate: 82-14

House: 322-77
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« Reply #40 on: February 16, 2021, 11:11:54 AM »

Presidency of James Tomikarmura, 1917-1921

Tomikarmura's second term went well. The Allies won the war in 1918 (albiet after the midterms), and the Republicans did well during the elections. The economic recovery was also completed, and salaries + unemployment were back to pre-recession numbers.

1918 Election:

Senate: 79-17

House: 310-89

1920 Election:



Johnson/Coolidge (R): 64.9%
Cox/Roosevelt (D): 30.8%

Senate: 85-11

House: 354-45
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« Reply #41 on: February 16, 2021, 03:26:01 PM »

Presidency of Hiram Johnson, 1921-1923

Hiram Johnson came into office with the goal of continuing his predecessor's legacy. He successfully introduced the Veteran's Act, a bill which gave all WWI vets free college or trade school tuition and a lowered Social Security age of 55 (opposed to the 62 for most). This, however, was one of his only accomplishments, as he was assassinated by an anarchist in early 1923. He also admitted Hawaii as a state.

1922 Elections:

Senate: 80-18

House: 361-139
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« Reply #42 on: February 16, 2021, 04:51:04 PM »

This has been a fascinating read, but you did William Jennings Bryan so dirty.
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« Reply #43 on: February 16, 2021, 05:37:35 PM »

He's only 62/63, he can make a comeback.
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« Reply #44 on: February 16, 2021, 05:40:53 PM »

No way the man that was to the left of Roosevelt wins anything if the Democratic Party ends up center-right.
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« Reply #45 on: February 16, 2021, 05:56:15 PM »

Presidency of Calvin Coolidge, 1923-1925

The death of President Johnson had come as a shock to all. Coolidge, however, styled his presidency as a 'caretaker' type and declined the nomination. He nominated General Benjamin O. Davis, Sr. for the VP position. Coolidge made up his mind rather late on if he was going to run, which in the end made the election closer than before. Vice President Davis narrowly won the nomination, beating prominent party members such as Senator Herbert Hoover (R-OR) and  House Majority Leader Nicholas Longworth (R-OH).

1924 Election:



Davis/Hoover: 56.9%
Bryan/Davis: 42.0%


Senate: 76-22

House: 340-160
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« Reply #46 on: February 16, 2021, 06:01:10 PM »

No way the man that was to the left of Roosevelt wins anything if the Democratic Party ends up center-right.

The republicans aren't necessarily left wing, and the democrats as well (although much less). The thing that unites the Republicans is social liberalism and a brand of moderate human-centered capitalism (they no longer would implement free Health Care if it came up again, but are not going to remove it as it is incredibly popular). The democrats have a slightly more right-leaning view on economics than the Republicans, and are more socially conservative. The dems do, however, have a strong economic-leftist front, so it is not inconceivable that a someone like Bryan could run away with the nomination, and even steal some Black votes.
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« Reply #47 on: February 16, 2021, 07:49:38 PM »

President Benjamin Octavian Davis, Sr., 1925-1929

President Davis didn't have many public achievements during the first three years of his tenure. But behind the scenes he strengthened the economic policy and bank security laws, which would be rendered genius in 1929. However, in 1928, the East Wing caught fire, nearly killing several people. The wing was rebuilt in a mirror exterior image of the West Wing and given a second floor. Unknown to the public, a secret bunker and network of tunnels was constructed underneath, connecting to the Old Executive Office Building. Regardless, the Great Depression (1928) hit the entire world by storm. Meanwhile, America was barely effected. Seeing the poverty and homelessness around the world made Americans extremely grateful. However, President Davis declined re-nomination and extremely likely re-election. In his place, the Republicans sent Vice President Hoover. The Democrats selected Senator (D-NM) Thomas Gonzalez. Gonzalez had a populist, WJB-type agenda, and a strong appeal to several major branches of society. The results were shocking...

1926 Mid-Terms:

Senate: 70-28

House: 314-186

1928 Election:



Gonzalez/Roosevelt: 48.692%
Hoover/Smith: 48.691%

Normally, a pure popular vote contest doesn't care about states. Except in 1928, when Gonzalez and Hoover had microscopic margins of 12 votes, with several hundred questionable ballots in these two states (Gonzalez conceded to Hoover, then later withdrew it, Hoover then did the same, but then withdrew it).
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« Reply #48 on: February 16, 2021, 08:07:58 PM »

Election of 1928, Continued


Unlike the Presidential race, every congressional race was called:

Senate: 62-36 (R-D)

House: 263-237 (R-D)

Anyway, both campaigns began ramping up infrastructure to sue each other (which is interesting, as Hoover and Gonzalez were (and remained) person friends from their time in the Senate).

Certified Count (e. WI, OH), November 23:

Thomas Adraine Gonzalez: 13,018,277
Herbert Clarke Hoover: 13,018,265

Supreme Court Ruling (Y/N Recount):

Taft (CG): N
Johnson: Y
Butler: Y
Van Devanter: Y
Hernandez: Y
Stone: N
Greenberg: N
Fujimori: Y
Chang: N

Recount Results (certified February 1):

Thomas Adraine Gonzalez: 13,018,290
Herbert Clarke Hoover: 13,018,287
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« Reply #49 on: February 16, 2021, 08:23:01 PM »

Was 1928 rigged as well, or is this the first time in 76 years the Democrats actually won an election?
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