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« on: February 12, 2021, 03:13:02 PM »
« edited: February 13, 2021, 02:26:43 PM by TiltsAreUnderrated »

https://zogbyanalytics.com/news/999-the-zogby-poll-the-zogby-report-on-the-state-of-new-york-cuomo-s-favorability-and-job-performance-are-solid-new-yorkers-blame-cuomo-for-the-nursing-home-crisis-new-yorkers-are-ready-for-someone-new

Results are given with leaners
February 3-5, 2021

Democratic primary likely voters: 316

Cuomo vs Letitia James
Cuomo 66%
James 23%
Not sure 11%

Cuomo vs AOC
Cuomo 68%
AOC 25%
Not sure 8%

General election likely voters: 810
MoE: 3.4%

Recall #s
Oppose Cuomo recall 42%
Favor Cuomo recall 40%
Not sure 17%

Cuomo vs Elsie Stefanik
Cuomo 51%
Stefanik 39%
Not sure 10%

AOC vs Elsie Stefanik
AOC 60%
Stefanik 36%
Not sure 4%

It's a Zogby poll 2 years out so not to be taken seriously, but it's still funny to see the projection that moderate hero Cuomo is the darling of the Democratic primary and yet less #electable than bipartisan AOC.

Edit: my AOC vs Stefanik results were wrong; see below for correction.
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2021, 03:39:30 PM »

https://zogbyanalytics.com/news/999-the-zogby-poll-the-zogby-report-on-the-state-of-new-york-cuomo-s-favorability-and-job-performance-are-solid-new-yorkers-blame-cuomo-for-the-nursing-home-crisis-new-yorkers-are-ready-for-someone-new

Results are given with leaners
February 3-5, 2021

Democratic primary likely voters: 316

Cuomo vs Letitia James
Cuomo 66%
James 23%
Not sure 11%

Cuomo vs AOC
Cuomo 68%
AOC 25%
Not sure 8%

General election likely voters: 810
MoE: 3.4%

Recall #s
Oppose Cuomo recall 42%
Favor Cuomo recall 40%
Not sure 17%

Cuomo vs Elsie Stefanik
Cuomo 51%
Stefanik 39%
Not sure 10%

AOC vs Elsie Stefanik
AOC 60%
Stefanik 36%
Not sure 4%

It's a Zogby poll 2 years out so not to be taken seriously, but it's still funny to see the projection that moderate hero Cuomo is the darling of the Democratic primary and yet less #electable than bipartisan AOC.

I'd like to see a real pollster take a crack at this race, seeing as how this is a Zogby poll which is already outdated.
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2021, 04:40:59 PM »

But Stefanik could beat AOC!11!!!11!!
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2021, 12:50:49 AM »

Interesting how Cuomo demolishes AOC in the primary yet she does better in the general; though this poll obviously needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Neither would get 60% in the general.
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2021, 02:26:23 PM »

Apologies - I misread the poll and the results with leaners for all likely voters in the Stefanik vs AOC matchup are AOC 50, Stefanik 42, unsure 8.
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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2021, 01:59:08 PM »

The only way Cuomo loses if he botched Redistricting, Rs are expected to lose 2 seats
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2021, 02:05:30 PM »


Minding that this is a Zogby poll, and has next to no value, how is that what you take away from this? This is a poll with AOC leading Stefanik 50-42 while we're still in Biden's honeymoon period, and with potential for Dems to fall a lot further before the midterms.
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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2021, 03:23:32 PM »


Minding that this is a Zogby poll, and has next to no value, how is that what you take away from this? This is a poll with AOC leading Stefanik 50-42 while we're still in Biden's honeymoon period, and with potential for Dems to fall a lot further before the midterms.

Stefanik (or any other New York Republican outside of maybe Katko) does not have a snowball's chance in hell against any Democrat including AOC. I really do not get this forum's obsession with Stefanik. Did y'all not see her all over the news selling out for Trump during his first impeachment, or supporting Trump's farcical lawsuit, or voting to overturn the electoral college? This stuff would be electoral poison in a swing state, let alone a state which has not voted for a Republican statewide since 2002 and just voted for Biden by north of 23 points, not to mention the incredibly polarized environment. There is really no analogue to this level of delusion on the opposing side, it would be like insisting that TN-GOV 2022 will be competitive if Jim Cooper is the nominee against some far right nutjob somehow, except that is probably significantly more realistic than NY-GOV since at least the relevant margin to overturn in Tennessee is "only" 700,000 votes as opposed to nearly 2 million.
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« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2021, 04:27:36 PM »


Minding that this is a Zogby poll, and has next to no value, how is that what you take away from this? This is a poll with AOC leading Stefanik 50-42 while we're still in Biden's honeymoon period, and with potential for Dems to fall a lot further before the midterms.

Stefanik (or any other New York Republican outside of maybe Katko) does not have a snowball's chance in hell against any Democrat including AOC. I really do not get this forum's obsession with Stefanik. Did y'all not see her all over the news selling out for Trump during his first impeachment, or supporting Trump's farcical lawsuit, or voting to overturn the electoral college? This stuff would be electoral poison in a swing state, let alone a state which has not voted for a Republican statewide since 2002 and just voted for Biden by north of 23 points, not to mention the incredibly polarized environment. There is really no analogue to this level of delusion on the opposing side, it would be like insisting that TN-GOV 2022 will be competitive if Jim Cooper is the nominee against some far right nutjob somehow, except that is probably significantly more realistic than NY-GOV since at least the relevant margin to overturn in Tennessee is "only" 700,000 votes as opposed to nearly 2 million.

That's all fine, but my only point was that this poll doesn't imply that. This poll implies a close race. You make a lot of points for why Stefanik can't win, but this poll says that that she isn't far behind, and so using it to say that Stefanik has no chance doesn't make sense.
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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2021, 04:59:22 PM »


Minding that this is a Zogby poll, and has next to no value, how is that what you take away from this? This is a poll with AOC leading Stefanik 50-42 while we're still in Biden's honeymoon period, and with potential for Dems to fall a lot further before the midterms.

Stefanik (or any other New York Republican outside of maybe Katko) does not have a snowball's chance in hell against any Democrat including AOC. I really do not get this forum's obsession with Stefanik. Did y'all not see her all over the news selling out for Trump during his first impeachment, or supporting Trump's farcical lawsuit, or voting to overturn the electoral college? This stuff would be electoral poison in a swing state, let alone a state which has not voted for a Republican statewide since 2002 and just voted for Biden by north of 23 points, not to mention the incredibly polarized environment. There is really no analogue to this level of delusion on the opposing side, it would be like insisting that TN-GOV 2022 will be competitive if Jim Cooper is the nominee against some far right nutjob somehow, except that is probably significantly more realistic than NY-GOV since at least the relevant margin to overturn in Tennessee is "only" 700,000 votes as opposed to nearly 2 million.

That's all fine, but my only point was that this poll doesn't imply that. This poll implies a close race. You make a lot of points for why Stefanik can't win, but this poll says that that she isn't far behind, and so using it to say that Stefanik has no chance doesn't make sense.

Ah, I see, fair enough.
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