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« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2021, 04:34:22 AM »

Reading those articles I get to the opposite conclusion to Yankee, which adding to the fact that China in Atlasia's timeline is a weaker candidate makes me lean against the bill, though I am still undecided.


Explain.
The articles, in particular the 2nd one, seem fairly clear to me in saying China is not a manipulator?


But that is what I also said.

Ok nvm I am stupid and read your post as meaning the exact opposite of what you said lol
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« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2021, 06:53:52 PM »

Reading those articles I get to the opposite conclusion to Yankee, which adding to the fact that China in Atlasia's timeline is a weaker candidate makes me lean against the bill, though I am still undecided.


Explain.
The articles, in particular the 2nd one, seem fairly clear to me in saying China is not a manipulator?


But that is what I also said.

Ok nvm I am stupid and read your post as meaning the exact opposite of what you said lol

I am going to miss you being in the Senate. Tongue
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« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2021, 06:39:46 AM »

How about shifting the purpose of this from currency manipulation to a more general statement about predatory trade practices by the Chinese?
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« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2021, 06:47:51 AM »

That seems like a good approach to me
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« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2021, 06:42:19 PM »

How about shifting the purpose of this from currency manipulation to a more general statement about predatory trade practices by the Chinese?

That was my original intent.
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« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2021, 12:05:29 AM »


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2. Upon passage, The Republic of Atlasia will officially condemn China's "salami-slicing" practices in Asia.

Can someone explain to me how these practices work?

I think in light of the previous discussion, the second paragraphed on currency manipulation should be broaden to incorporate more general acts of trade practices.
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« Reply #31 on: March 01, 2021, 02:35:51 AM »

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2. Upon passage, The Republic of Atlasia will officially condemn China's "salami-slicing" practices in Asia.

Can someone explain to me how these practices work?

I think in light of the previous discussion, the second paragraphed on currency manipulation should be broaden to incorporate more general acts of trade practices.

Definitely would recommend amending the resolution to define this, because when I read "salami-slicing", I think of Peebs.
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« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2021, 12:44:07 PM »

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2. Upon passage, The Republic of Atlasia will officially condemn China's "salami-slicing" practices in Asia.

Can someone explain to me how these practices work?

I think in light of the previous discussion, the second paragraphed on currency manipulation should be broaden to incorporate more general acts of trade practices.

Definitely would recommend amending the resolution to define this, because when I read "salami-slicing", I think of Peebs.

Well that wasn't the first thing in my mind but certainly, it needs to be defined. I am not familiar with the term myself even.
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« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2021, 11:50:27 AM »

China's salami slicing practices basically entail using subversive tactics to expand their territorial claims by being the aggressor and then claiming self-defense when another nation retaliates.
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« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2021, 11:51:52 AM »

China's salami slicing practices basically entail using subversive tactics to expand their territorial claims by being the aggressor and then claiming self-defense when another nation retaliates.

That needs to be defined in text.
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« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2021, 11:54:32 AM »

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SENATE RESOLUTION
To condemn the People's Republic of China in its currency manipulation and subversive actions in the Asia Pacific region

Be it Resolved in both Houses of Congress Assembled,

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Section 1. Background

In flagrant violation of international law, the People's Republic of China has taken a series of actions that involve uses of force to instigate retaliation between its neighbors such as India. If no action is taken on the part of Atlasia, the two countries will be set on a path toward war. The purpose of this resolution is to condemn China's practices and tactics as it relates to their un-quenched desire for territorial expansion at the expense of the rest of the world.

As it relates to currency manipulation, China is able to set the value of its currency as it sees fit as it possesses a centrally-planned economy. This provides an unfair advantage to the People's Republic of China because the value of other nations' currency continues to fluctuate. By lowering the value of their currency, China gains an unfair advantage. While steps have been taken in recent years, the Republic of Atlasia shall monitor this activity closely to regain an international trade balance.

Section 2. Definition
1. Salami slicing practices entail using subversive tactics to expand their territorial claims by being the aggressor and then claiming self-defense when another nation retaliates.


Section 2. Adoption
1. The passage of this resolution will create a watch-list and add China as a member country
2. Upon passage, The Republic of Atlasia will officially condemn China's "salami-slicing" practices in Asia.


I'd like to propose this amendment.

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« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2021, 11:55:05 AM »

Senators have 24 hours to object.
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« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2021, 01:06:59 AM »

That amendment is adopted.

We should rename this to reflect the more broad basis that we are heading for.

Something that references generalized trade practices as opposed to a specific one.
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« Reply #38 on: March 13, 2021, 04:11:06 PM »

Any ideas for that broader name?
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« Reply #39 on: March 14, 2021, 12:01:17 PM »

You guys are so boring at times. Tongue
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« Reply #40 on: March 14, 2021, 04:17:36 PM »

I often go for the most obscure reference I can get for bill titles so I might not be the best person to ask.
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« Reply #41 on: March 14, 2021, 04:19:26 PM »


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SENATE RESOLUTION

To condemn the People's Republic of China in its currency manipulation and subversive actions in the Asia Pacific region

Senate Resolution: To condemn the trade policies and territorial expansion by the Peoples Republic of China.



Be it Resolved in both Houses of Congress Assembled,

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Section 1. Background

In flagrant violation of international law, the People's Republic of China has taken a series of actions that involve uses of force to instigate retaliation between its neighbors such as India. If no action is taken on the part of Atlasia, the two countries will be set on a path toward war. The purpose of this resolution is to condemn China's practices and tactics as it relates to their un-quenched desire for territorial expansion at the expense of the rest of the world.

As it relates to currency manipulation, China is able to set the value of its currency as it sees fit as it possesses a centrally-planned economy. This provides an unfair advantage to the People's Republic of China because the value of other nations' currency continues to fluctuate. By lowering the value of their currency, China gains an unfair advantage. While steps have been taken in recent years, the Republic of Atlasia shall monitor this activity closely to regain an international trade balance.

Section 2. Definition
1. Salami slicing practices entail using subversive tactics to expand their territorial claims by being the aggressor and then claiming self-defense when another nation retaliates.


Section 2. Adoption
1. The passage of this resolution will create a watch-list and add China as a member country
2. Upon passage, The Republic of Atlasia will officially condemn China's "salami-slicing" practices in Asia.

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« Reply #42 on: March 15, 2021, 03:28:20 PM »

I support that amendment.
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« Reply #43 on: March 16, 2021, 06:48:11 PM »

Any further thoughts on this from anybody or are we happy to move to a final vote soon?
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« Reply #44 on: March 17, 2021, 12:04:51 AM »

Any further thoughts on this from anybody or are we happy to move to a final vote soon?

I'm fine with a final vote.
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« Reply #45 on: March 17, 2021, 11:15:14 AM »

Seeing no objections since the amendment was declared friendly, the amendment is adopted.

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« Reply #46 on: March 17, 2021, 11:15:29 AM »

Senators have 24 hours to object to a final vote motion.
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« Reply #47 on: March 20, 2021, 04:41:44 PM »

A final vote is now open on this bill.
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« Reply #48 on: March 20, 2021, 04:42:25 PM »

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« Reply #49 on: March 20, 2021, 04:55:34 PM »

Abstain
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