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« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2021, 05:21:28 PM »

his presidency caused more long-term damage than any president since Reagan.

Ronald Reagan was the best president of the modern political era.
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« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2021, 05:36:55 PM »

his presidency caused more long-term damage than any president since Reagan.

Ronald Reagan was the best president of the modern political era.

I like presidents that don't get dementia. Or f#ck over the poor and middle class with not only policy but an ethos that people on welfare are lazy bums. Or escalate the War on Drugs. Or sell weapons to Iran.
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« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2021, 05:40:25 PM »

his presidency caused more long-term damage than any president since Reagan.

Ronald Reagan was the best president of the modern political era.

I like presidents that don't get dementia. Or f#ck over the poor and middle class with not only policy but an ethos that people on welfare are lazy bums. Or escalate the War on Drugs. Or sell weapons to Iran.

The last two are valid criticisms, but out of curiosity- who do you think was best president of the modern era? I guarantee Reagan ousts them.
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« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2021, 05:42:27 PM »

his presidency caused more long-term damage than any president since Reagan.

Ronald Reagan was the best president of the modern political era.

I like presidents that don't get dementia. Or f#ck over the poor and middle class with not only policy but an ethos that people on welfare are lazy bums. Or escalate the War on Drugs. Or sell weapons to Iran.

The last two are valid criticisms, but out of curiosity- who do you think was best president of the modern era? I guarantee Reagan ousts them.

I believe the least bad president of the modern era was Obama. And he's no saint either. And I don't want a bunch of sh!t named after him.
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« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2021, 06:12:53 PM »

his presidency caused more long-term damage than any president since Reagan.

Ronald Reagan was the best president of the modern political era.

I like presidents that don't get dementia. Or f#ck over the poor and middle class with not only policy but an ethos that people on welfare are lazy bums. Or escalate the War on Drugs. Or sell weapons to Iran.

The last two are valid criticisms, but out of curiosity- who do you think was best president of the modern era? I guarantee Reagan ousts them.

I believe the least bad president of the modern era was Obama. And he's no saint either. And I don't want a bunch of sh!t named after him.

I like presidents who don’t add 10 trillion dollars to the national debt. So Obama sure as hell wasn’t the best in my view. Anyways, Reagan is the main reason why we live in the USA and not the ASSR.
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« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2021, 06:21:15 PM »

his presidency caused more long-term damage than any president since Reagan.

Ronald Reagan was the best president of the modern political era.

I like presidents that don't get dementia. Or f#ck over the poor and middle class with not only policy but an ethos that people on welfare are lazy bums. Or escalate the War on Drugs. Or sell weapons to Iran.

The last two are valid criticisms, but out of curiosity- who do you think was best president of the modern era? I guarantee Reagan ousts them.

I believe the least bad president of the modern era was Obama. And he's no saint either. And I don't want a bunch of sh!t named after him.

I like presidents who don’t add 10 trillion dollars to the national debt. So Obama sure as hell wasn’t the best in my view. Anyways, Reagan is the main reason why we live in the USA and not the ASSR.

The USSR was unsustainable and destined to fail. In any case, look at Russia and the former Soviet states now and tell me if the people there are really better off. Talk about sh!thole countries.

I'd love to hear you lecture LGBT and HIV-positive people about how much of a saint Ronnie was.

I swear to God, Americans try way too hard to one-up the UK's carpet munching of their rulers. Stop idolizing human beings, stop mythologizing politicians, and follow Christ.
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« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2021, 06:26:44 PM »

his presidency caused more long-term damage than any president since Reagan.

Ronald Reagan was the best president of the modern political era.

I couldn't find the right reaction to show how absurd this is, so I'll just type this.
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« Reply #32 on: February 07, 2021, 06:33:04 PM »

his presidency caused more long-term damage than any president since Reagan.

Ronald Reagan was the best president of the modern political era.

I couldn't find the right reaction to show how absurd this is, so I'll just type this.

Took the bait my guy. What I said was still true (I challenge you to name a better one), but what I said was still bait.
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« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2021, 06:33:57 PM »

his presidency caused more long-term damage than any president since Reagan.

Ronald Reagan was the best president of the modern political era.

I like presidents that don't get dementia. Or f#ck over the poor and middle class with not only policy but an ethos that people on welfare are lazy bums. Or escalate the War on Drugs. Or sell weapons to Iran.

The last two are valid criticisms, but out of curiosity- who do you think was best president of the modern era? I guarantee Reagan ousts them.

I believe the least bad president of the modern era was Obama. And he's no saint either. And I don't want a bunch of sh!t named after him.

I like presidents who don’t add 10 trillion dollars to the national debt. So Obama sure as hell wasn’t the best in my view. Anyways, Reagan is the main reason why we live in the USA and not the ASSR.

The USSR was unsustainable and destined to fail. In any case, look at Russia and the former Soviet states now and tell me if the people there are really better off. Talk about sh!thole countries.

I'd love to hear you lecture LGBT and HIV-positive people about how much of a saint Ronnie was.

I swear to God, Americans try way too hard to one-up the UK's carpet munching of their rulers. Stop idolizing human beings, stop mythologizing politicians, and follow Christ.

I ain’t no Reagan simp, but he was still a good president.
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« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2021, 06:35:49 PM »

his presidency caused more long-term damage than any president since Reagan.

Ronald Reagan was the best president of the modern political era.

I couldn't find the right reaction to show how absurd this is, so I'll just type this.

Took the bait my guy. What I said was still true (I challenge you to name a better one), but what I said was still bait.


Most everyone is better than Reagan just by virtue of not being Reagan! Clinton, Obama, Bush I, both superior (not that they're amazing, or even good in Bush I's case). Bush and Trump somehow became worse, which is really remarkable.
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« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2021, 06:41:46 PM »

his presidency caused more long-term damage than any president since Reagan.

Ronald Reagan was the best president of the modern political era.

I couldn't find the right reaction to show how absurd this is, so I'll just type this.

Took the bait my guy. What I said was still true (I challenge you to name a better one), but what I said was still bait.


Most everyone is better than Reagan just by virtue of not being Reagan! Clinton, Obama, Bush I, both superior (not that they're amazing, or even good in Bush I's case). Bush and Trump somehow became worse, which is really remarkable.

Clinton better than Reagan? Clinton bungled foreign policy more than Lewinsky bungled his manhood.
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« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2021, 06:48:18 PM »

his presidency caused more long-term damage than any president since Reagan.

Ronald Reagan was the best president of the modern political era.

I couldn't find the right reaction to show how absurd this is, so I'll just type this.

Took the bait my guy. What I said was still true (I challenge you to name a better one), but what I said was still bait.


Most everyone is better than Reagan just by virtue of not being Reagan! Clinton, Obama, Bush I, both superior (not that they're amazing, or even good in Bush I's case). Bush and Trump somehow became worse, which is really remarkable.

Clinton better than Reagan? Clinton bungled foreign policy more than Lewinsky bungled his manhood.

Clinton bombed a medicine factory and Reagan supported Apartheid South Africa, backed wars all over Central America (contributing to immigration problems in the US), supported the Marcos regime in the Philippines, supported Saddam Hussein even after he gassed the Kurds, supported the Taliban, and supported Augusto Pinochet.

Neither Reagan or Clinton should have been anywhere near the White House.
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« Reply #37 on: February 07, 2021, 06:53:10 PM »

his presidency caused more long-term damage than any president since Reagan.

Ronald Reagan was the best president of the modern political era.

I couldn't find the right reaction to show how absurd this is, so I'll just type this.

Took the bait my guy. What I said was still true (I challenge you to name a better one), but what I said was still bait.


Most everyone is better than Reagan just by virtue of not being Reagan! Clinton, Obama, Bush I, both superior (not that they're amazing, or even good in Bush I's case). Bush and Trump somehow became worse, which is really remarkable.

Clinton better than Reagan? Clinton bungled foreign policy more than Lewinsky bungled his manhood.

Clinton bombed a medicine factory and Reagan supported Apartheid South Africa, backed wars all over Central America (contributing to immigration problems in the US), supported the Marcos regime in the Philippines, supported Saddam Hussein even after he gassed the Kurds, supported the Taliban, and supported Augusto Pinochet.

Neither Reagan or Clinton should have been anywhere near the White House.

Illegal immigration to the United States would’ve been way, way, way worse if those socialist governments had taken hold. Not to say Reagan didn’t make mistakes in his Central American policy, but immigration is NOT one of the negative impacts.
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« Reply #38 on: February 07, 2021, 06:57:32 PM »

his presidency caused more long-term damage than any president since Reagan.

Ronald Reagan was the best president of the modern political era.

I couldn't find the right reaction to show how absurd this is, so I'll just type this.

Took the bait my guy. What I said was still true (I challenge you to name a better one), but what I said was still bait.


Most everyone is better than Reagan just by virtue of not being Reagan! Clinton, Obama, Bush I, both superior (not that they're amazing, or even good in Bush I's case). Bush and Trump somehow became worse, which is really remarkable.

Clinton better than Reagan? Clinton bungled foreign policy more than Lewinsky bungled his manhood.

Clinton bombed a medicine factory and Reagan supported Apartheid South Africa, backed wars all over Central America (contributing to immigration problems in the US), supported the Marcos regime in the Philippines, supported Saddam Hussein even after he gassed the Kurds, supported the Taliban, and supported Augusto Pinochet.

Neither Reagan or Clinton should have been anywhere near the White House.

Illegal immigration to the United States would’ve been way, way, way worse if those socialist governments had taken hold. Not to say Reagan didn’t make mistakes in his Central American policy, but immigration is NOT one of the negative impacts.

They were legitimate governments, and Reagan's meddling is proof of why nationalism and state sovereignty are superior to the alternatives our rulers have forced on people.
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« Reply #39 on: February 07, 2021, 07:01:43 PM »

his presidency caused more long-term damage than any president since Reagan.

Ronald Reagan was the best president of the modern political era.

I like presidents that don't get dementia. Or f#ck over the poor and middle class with not only policy but an ethos that people on welfare are lazy bums. Or escalate the War on Drugs. Or sell weapons to Iran.

The last two are valid criticisms, but out of curiosity- who do you think was best president of the modern era? I guarantee Reagan ousts them.

I believe the least bad president of the modern era was Obama. And he's no saint either. And I don't want a bunch of sh!t named after him.

I like presidents who don’t add 10 trillion dollars to the national debt. So Obama sure as hell wasn’t the best in my view. Anyways, Reagan is the main reason why we live in the USA and not the ASSR.

Maybe before talking about presidents who add trillions to the national debt you should read something about the effect of Reagan's tax cuts and military spending policy.
Also, that comment about the "ASSR" is completely deranged.
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« Reply #40 on: February 07, 2021, 07:07:44 PM »

his presidency caused more long-term damage than any president since Reagan.

Ronald Reagan was the best president of the modern political era.

I like presidents that don't get dementia. Or f#ck over the poor and middle class with not only policy but an ethos that people on welfare are lazy bums. Or escalate the War on Drugs. Or sell weapons to Iran.

The last two are valid criticisms, but out of curiosity- who do you think was best president of the modern era? I guarantee Reagan ousts them.

I believe the least bad president of the modern era was Obama. And he's no saint either. And I don't want a bunch of sh!t named after him.

I like presidents who don’t add 10 trillion dollars to the national debt. So Obama sure as hell wasn’t the best in my view. Anyways, Reagan is the main reason why we live in the USA and not the ASSR.

Imagine citing the debt to argue that Reagan was a good president
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« Reply #41 on: February 07, 2021, 07:13:29 PM »

his presidency caused more long-term damage than any president since Reagan.

Ronald Reagan was the best president of the modern political era.

I like presidents that don't get dementia. Or f#ck over the poor and middle class with not only policy but an ethos that people on welfare are lazy bums. Or escalate the War on Drugs. Or sell weapons to Iran.

The last two are valid criticisms, but out of curiosity- who do you think was best president of the modern era? I guarantee Reagan ousts them.

I believe the least bad president of the modern era was Obama. And he's no saint either. And I don't want a bunch of sh!t named after him.

I like presidents who don’t add 10 trillion dollars to the national debt. So Obama sure as hell wasn’t the best in my view. Anyways, Reagan is the main reason why we live in the USA and not the ASSR.

Imagine citing the debt to argue that Reagan was a good president
What's more silly, thinking he was a good President or saying the debt is the reason why?
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« Reply #42 on: February 07, 2021, 08:54:41 PM »

his presidency caused more long-term damage than any president since Reagan.

Ronald Reagan was the best president of the modern political era.

I like presidents that don't get dementia. Or f#ck over the poor and middle class with not only policy but an ethos that people on welfare are lazy bums. Or escalate the War on Drugs. Or sell weapons to Iran.

The last two are valid criticisms, but out of curiosity- who do you think was best president of the modern era? I guarantee Reagan ousts them.

I believe the least bad president of the modern era was Obama. And he's no saint either. And I don't want a bunch of sh!t named after him.

I like presidents who don’t add 10 trillion dollars to the national debt. So Obama sure as hell wasn’t the best in my view. Anyways, Reagan is the main reason why we live in the USA and not the ASSR.

Imagine citing the debt to argue that Reagan was a good president

Reagan didn’t increase the debt by 10 trillion.
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« Reply #43 on: February 08, 2021, 01:22:48 AM »

Reagan is the main reason why we live in the USA and not the ASSR.

I don’t see how an ASSR is possible in a timeline with a point of divergence in the 1980s.
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« Reply #44 on: February 08, 2021, 03:09:34 AM »

George W Bush also presaged the Trump Presidency by demonizing his opponents as unpatriotic,

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2004/09/opposing-bush-becomes-unpatriotic.html


and by, more importantly, being the first President to wholly embrace 'alternative facts.'

The aide said that guys like me [Suskind] were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors ... and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."


https://theweek.com/articles/854892/what-karl-rove-right-about-realitybased-community
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« Reply #45 on: February 08, 2021, 03:58:57 AM »
« Edited: February 08, 2021, 04:11:54 AM by Frank »

his presidency caused more long-term damage than any president since Reagan.

Ronald Reagan was the best president of the modern political era.

I like presidents that don't get dementia. Or f#ck over the poor and middle class with not only policy but an ethos that people on welfare are lazy bums. Or escalate the War on Drugs. Or sell weapons to Iran.

The last two are valid criticisms, but out of curiosity- who do you think was best president of the modern era? I guarantee Reagan ousts them.

I believe the least bad president of the modern era was Obama. And he's no saint either. And I don't want a bunch of sh!t named after him.

I like presidents who don’t add 10 trillion dollars to the national debt. So Obama sure as hell wasn’t the best in my view. Anyways, Reagan is the main reason why we live in the USA and not the ASSR.

Imagine citing the debt to argue that Reagan was a good president

Reagan didn’t increase the debt by 10 trillion.

Using 2020 constant dollars, Reagan increased the debt by about $4 trillion, an average of $500 billion a year.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/jul/29/tweets/republican-presidents-democrats-contribute-deficit/

I'm not sure what any of this has to do with George W Bush as a person.
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« Reply #46 on: February 08, 2021, 05:17:17 AM »

The Rs don't nominate non oil men for Prez, Bush W was an ENRON Exec, and so was Bush Sr. Of Trump was connected to Russian oil and so is Vince Mcmahon his amigo. That's why Ds don't like Bush W
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« Reply #47 on: February 08, 2021, 07:14:20 AM »

Even if you ignore his disastrous and murderous Presidency, this is a guy who as Governor of Texas signed the death warrants of over 150 people with a smile on his face.
And a bill that allowed judges to send truant children to adult jail.
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« Reply #48 on: February 08, 2021, 10:08:17 AM »

Stole an election and started an illegal war. I dunno how you can describe this as "FF person".
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« Reply #49 on: February 08, 2021, 07:39:28 PM »

Glad to see many in the same boat as me.
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