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« on: January 25, 2021, 03:53:19 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2021, 04:17:56 PM »
He was born in Trump+8 Westmoreland County VA, but he spent lots of time in Biden landslide Phili and NYC. Mount Vernon is a very liberal part of NOVA.
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2021, 04:18:36 PM »
He would of course vote for his contemporary Joseph R. Biden Jr.
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2021, 04:24:30 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2021, 05:36:13 PM »
He'd probably pick a third-party option.
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2021, 07:31:44 PM »
You're not supposed to be here until 2022.
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2021, 06:12:00 AM »
Biden, The Whigs were the compassionate conservatives party not the Tories of today that's why up until Eisenhower from Abe, AA were Rs

Earl Warren ended Jim Crow, Federico M Vinson quoted Thomas Jefferson, Earl Warren Predecessor as Chief Justice that if the Constitution didnt outlaw segregation, then segregation should be legal
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2021, 12:01:51 PM »
He would be a Biden republican.
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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2021, 12:23:10 PM »
I don’t know why people are so obsessed with putting politicians from centuries ago into modern political categories. Washington would probably dislike both parties.
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2021, 12:48:24 PM »
He'd have voted for the candidate that didn't want to destroy the democratic system he inaugurated.
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2021, 01:52:38 PM »
« Edited: January 26, 2021, 01:59:29 PM by Skill and Chance »
It's truly a difficult and unreasonable comparison.  I would guess that when push comes to shove, Washington goes for Biden while all of the other presidents with connections to the plantation South go for Trump in a 2 way unless Harrison is voting with awareness of how he died, in which case he could be a single issue pro-social distancing voter for Biden.  The only sure Biden voters prior to Lincoln are the Adamses. 

Washington: Lean Biden
Adams: Biden
Jefferson: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Madison: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Monroe: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Quincy Adams: Biden
Jackson: Trump
Van Buren: Trump
William Henry Harrison: Lean Biden if he knows that he died of pneumonia after taking no precautions at his inauguration, Trump otherwise
Tyler: Trump
Polk: Trump
Taylor: Trump
Filmore: Trump
Pierce: Trump
Buchanan: Trump
Lincoln: Biden at the end of his life, but Lean Trump prior to the Civil War (he absolutely loved tariffs)
Johnson: Trump
Grant: Biden
Hayes: Lean Trump
Garfield: Biden, possibly a single issue pro-civil service job protections/anti-spoils system voter
Arthur: Lean Biden
Cleveland: Trump
Benjamin Harrison: Biden
Cleveland: Trump*
McKinley: Trump
T. Roosevelt: Trump
Taft: Lean Trump
Wilson: Trump
Harding: Trump (tariffs/low taxes/industrial policy/isolationism)
Coolidge: Trump (tariffs/low taxes/industrial policy/isolationism)
Hoover: Trump (the only other businessman president who never held elected office)
FDR: Biden
Truman: Biden
Ike: Lean Trump? (the toughest call of the 20th century for sure)
JFK: Biden
LBJ: Biden
Nixon: Trump
Ford: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Carter: Biden
Reagan: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Bush Sr: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Clinton: Biden
Bush Jr: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Obama:Biden
Biden: Biden (votes for himself, duh)

*In a 5/4 ruling, SCOTUS allows his second vote to count (with Gorsuch and the liberals dissenting)
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2021, 02:08:10 PM »
Quote from: Skill and Chance on January 26, 2021, 01:52:38 PM
It's truly a difficult and unreasonable comparison.  I would guess that when push comes to shove, Washington goes for Biden while all of the other presidents with connections to the plantation South go for Trump in a 2 way unless Harrison is voting with awareness of how he died, in which case he could be a single issue pro-COVID lockdown voter for Biden.  The only sure Biden voters prior to Lincoln are the Adamses. 

Washington: Lean Biden
Adams: Biden
Jefferson: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Madison: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Monroe: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Quincy Adams: Biden
Jackson: Trump
Van Buren: Trump
William Henry Harrison: Lean Biden if he knows that he died of pneumonia after taking no precautions at his inauguration, Trump otherwise
Tyler: Trump
Polk: Trump
Taylor: Trump
Filmore: Trump
Pierce: Trump
Buchanan: Trump
Lincoln: Biden at the end of his life, but Lean Trump prior to the Civil War (he absolutely loved tariffs)
Johnson: Trump
Grant: Biden
Hayes: Lean Trump
Garfield: Biden, possibly a single issue pro-civil service job protections/anti-spoils system voter
Arthur: Lean Biden
Cleveland: Trump
Benjamin Harrison: Biden
Cleveland: Trump*
McKinley: Trump
T. Roosevelt: Trump
Taft: Lean Trump
Wilson: Trump
Harding: Trump (tariffs/low taxes/industrial policy/isolationism)
Coolidge: Trump (tariffs/low taxes/industrial policy/isolationism)
Hoover: Trump (the only other businessman president who never held elected office)
FDR: Biden
Truman: Biden
Ike: Lean Trump? (the toughest call of the 20th century for sure)
JFK: Biden
LBJ: Biden
Nixon: Trump
Ford: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Carter: Biden
Reagan: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Bush Sr: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Clinton: Biden
Bush Jr: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Obama:Biden
Biden: Biden (votes for himself, duh)

*In a 5/4 ruling, SCOTUS allows his second vote to count (with Gorsuch and the liberals dissenting)

TR would have voted Biden for sure. His 1912 platform was basically a modern liberal one. Ike was also very moderate, and military brass weren't exactly Trump's biggest fans. HW confirmed that he voted for Hillary, and there's no reason to think he would have voted for Trump in 2020. W very likely voted for Biden, considering what he said to Clyburn.

Wilson was the toughest one for me. On one hand, a white southerner. But on the other, his intellectual nature is so counter to Trump's. But I have a feeling he ultimately pulls the lever for Biden.
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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2021, 02:12:53 PM »
Quote from: Submit to the will of the Democratic trifecta on January 25, 2021, 04:18:36 PM
He would of course vote for his contemporary Joseph R. Biden Jr.
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« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2021, 05:58:43 PM »
Quote from: Skill and Chance on January 26, 2021, 01:52:38 PM

Jefferson: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties


Jefferson would be a leftist if alive today.
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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2021, 06:06:50 PM »
He wouldn't vote for someone who constantly talked about running for more than 2 terms.
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« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2021, 07:03:26 PM »

Biden would likely have owned a slave or two. Delaware was part of Pennsylvania, but had its own legislature. While the Quakers in Pennsylvania abhorred slavery, it was legal in Delaware.

It was not unknown for persons such as Joseph Robinette Biden, Sr. to move South and become ensconced in the slave economy. Biden would not have owned a plantation, but as a lawyer would represent plantation owners in recovering run-away slaves.

It is reputed that Hunter Biden was a slave trader and whipped his slaves.

Donald J. Trump with his Scottish/German roots would not have had slaves. He would have been a big backer of the Erie Canal. "Build The Ditch! Build the Ditch!". It would be Huge! He would have backed deporting Tories "Such big losers!", even though they had never lived in Canada. There might have been some questionable business dealings, not unexpected in New York whose motto is Quid Pro Quo (English translation: What's in it for me.)

Washington would have voted for the Southerner Biden, despite him being Catholic.
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« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2021, 07:08:12 PM »
Quite obviously Biden.
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« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2021, 09:16:10 PM »
Quote from: Skill and Chance on January 26, 2021, 01:52:38 PM
It's truly a difficult and unreasonable comparison.  I would guess that when push comes to shove, Washington goes for Biden while all of the other presidents with connections to the plantation South go for Trump in a 2 way unless Harrison is voting with awareness of how he died, in which case he could be a single issue pro-social distancing voter for Biden.  The only sure Biden voters prior to Lincoln are the Adamses. 

Washington: Lean Biden
Adams: Biden
Jefferson: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Madison: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Monroe: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Quincy Adams: Biden
Jackson: Trump
Van Buren: Trump
William Henry Harrison: Lean Biden if he knows that he died of pneumonia after taking no precautions at his inauguration, Trump otherwise
Tyler: Trump
Polk: Trump
Taylor: Trump
Filmore: Trump
Pierce: Trump
Buchanan: Trump
Lincoln: Biden at the end of his life, but Lean Trump prior to the Civil War (he absolutely loved tariffs)
Johnson: Trump
Grant: Biden
Hayes: Lean Trump
Garfield: Biden, possibly a single issue pro-civil service job protections/anti-spoils system voter
Arthur: Lean Biden
Cleveland: Trump
Benjamin Harrison: Biden
Cleveland: Trump*
McKinley: Trump
T. Roosevelt: Trump
Taft: Lean Trump
Wilson: Trump
Harding: Trump (tariffs/low taxes/industrial policy/isolationism)
Coolidge: Trump (tariffs/low taxes/industrial policy/isolationism)
Hoover: Trump (the only other businessman president who never held elected office)
FDR: Biden
Truman: Biden
Ike: Lean Trump? (the toughest call of the 20th century for sure)
JFK: Biden
LBJ: Biden
Nixon: Trump
Ford: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Carter: Biden
Reagan: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Bush Sr: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Clinton: Biden
Bush Jr: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Obama:Biden
Biden: Biden (votes for himself, duh)

*In a 5/4 ruling, SCOTUS allows his second vote to count (with Gorsuch and the liberals dissenting)
You do realise Bush Snr. voted for Hillary in 2016? And that Dubya basically confirmed he voted Biden in 2020?
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« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2021, 09:51:15 PM »
Quote from: Oregon Eagle Politics on January 25, 2021, 04:17:56 PM
He was born in Trump+8 Westmoreland County VA.

Ironically, that used to be a hyperbellwether county for decades - until the latest election, as though Washington's soul has still been influencing the political stance of its citizens.
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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2021, 05:20:48 AM »
Quote from: Monstro Believed in a Blue Georgia (and a Blue Texas) on January 25, 2021, 07:17:43 PM
1. How many SirWoodbury threads had he started since the Georgia runoffs?

2. How many SirWoddbury threads/polls have there been which is simply the main question as the title and "?" in the body?
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« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2021, 02:52:06 PM »
Quote from: Skill and Chance on January 26, 2021, 01:52:38 PM
It's truly a difficult and unreasonable comparison.  I would guess that when push comes to shove, Washington goes for Biden while all of the other presidents with connections to the plantation South go for Trump in a 2 way unless Harrison is voting with awareness of how he died, in which case he could be a single issue pro-social distancing voter for Biden.  The only sure Biden voters prior to Lincoln are the Adamses. 

Washington: Lean Biden
Adams: Biden
Jefferson: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Madison: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Monroe: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Quincy Adams: Biden
Jackson: Trump
Van Buren: Trump
William Henry Harrison: Lean Biden if he knows that he died of pneumonia after taking no precautions at his inauguration, Trump otherwise
Tyler: Trump
Polk: Trump
Taylor: Trump
Filmore: Trump
Pierce: Trump
Buchanan: Trump
Lincoln: Biden at the end of his life, but Lean Trump prior to the Civil War (he absolutely loved tariffs)
Johnson: Trump
Grant: Biden
Hayes: Lean Trump
Garfield: Biden, possibly a single issue pro-civil service job protections/anti-spoils system voter
Arthur: Lean Biden
Cleveland: Trump
Benjamin Harrison: Biden
Cleveland: Trump*
McKinley: Trump
T. Roosevelt: Trump
Taft: Lean Trump
Wilson: Trump
Harding: Trump (tariffs/low taxes/industrial policy/isolationism)
Coolidge: Trump (tariffs/low taxes/industrial policy/isolationism)
Hoover: Trump (the only other businessman president who never held elected office)
FDR: Biden
Truman: Biden
Ike: Lean Trump? (the toughest call of the 20th century for sure)
JFK: Biden
LBJ: Biden
Nixon: Trump
Ford: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Carter: Biden
Reagan: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Bush Sr: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Clinton: Biden
Bush Jr: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Obama:Biden
Biden: Biden (votes for himself, duh)

*In a 5/4 ruling, SCOTUS allows his second vote to count (with Gorsuch and the liberals dissenting)
HW voted for Hillary and Dubya voted for Biden

TR, Taft, Wilson, Eisenhower, Ford, and Nixon all would have voted for Biden
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« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2021, 04:05:27 PM »
Saying Wilson would vote for Trump shows a true lack of historical depth and total tunnel vision.
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« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2021, 12:40:35 AM »
Quote from: Motorcity on January 29, 2021, 02:52:06 PM
Quote from: Skill and Chance on January 26, 2021, 01:52:38 PM
It's truly a difficult and unreasonable comparison.  I would guess that when push comes to shove, Washington goes for Biden while all of the other presidents with connections to the plantation South go for Trump in a 2 way unless Harrison is voting with awareness of how he died, in which case he could be a single issue pro-social distancing voter for Biden.  The only sure Biden voters prior to Lincoln are the Adamses. 

Washington: Lean Biden
Adams: Biden
Jefferson: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Madison: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Monroe: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Quincy Adams: Biden
Jackson: Trump
Van Buren: Trump
William Henry Harrison: Lean Biden if he knows that he died of pneumonia after taking no precautions at his inauguration, Trump otherwise
Tyler: Trump
Polk: Trump
Taylor: Trump
Filmore: Trump
Pierce: Trump
Buchanan: Trump
Lincoln: Biden at the end of his life, but Lean Trump prior to the Civil War (he absolutely loved tariffs)
Johnson: Trump
Grant: Biden
Hayes: Lean Trump
Garfield: Biden, possibly a single issue pro-civil service job protections/anti-spoils system voter
Arthur: Lean Biden
Cleveland: Trump
Benjamin Harrison: Biden
Cleveland: Trump*
McKinley: Trump
T. Roosevelt: Trump
Taft: Lean Trump
Wilson: Trump
Harding: Trump (tariffs/low taxes/industrial policy/isolationism)
Coolidge: Trump (tariffs/low taxes/industrial policy/isolationism)
Hoover: Trump (the only other businessman president who never held elected office)
FDR: Biden
Truman: Biden
Ike: Lean Trump? (the toughest call of the 20th century for sure)
JFK: Biden
LBJ: Biden
Nixon: Trump
Ford: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Carter: Biden
Reagan: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Bush Sr: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Clinton: Biden
Bush Jr: Likely Trump, considering 3rd parties
Obama:Biden
Biden: Biden (votes for himself, duh)

*In a 5/4 ruling, SCOTUS allows his second vote to count (with Gorsuch and the liberals dissenting)
HW voted for Hillary and Dubya voted for Biden

TR, Taft, Wilson, Eisenhower, Ford, and Nixon all would have voted for Biden

Add Reagan to that list as well.
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« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2021, 12:52:43 AM »
None of our Founding fathers would vote Trump, Trump started an insurrection and we had a Civil War over the insurrection of the South trying to cede the nation
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« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2021, 01:33:45 AM »
While a lot of the early ones (and some of the later ones) wouldn't have been totally comfortable with Biden's Catholicism, every single president from Washington on would have been able to see that Trump was a shockingly incompetent buffoon and an existential threat to the country.

Biden wins 43-0.
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