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JNB
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« on: June 09, 2004, 06:46:41 PM »


  Walter, you have to understand that support for "free" trade is a losing issue, that is one reason why Bush is not doing as well as he should against Kerry, and De Mints support for "free" Trade will hurt him among working class conservatives.

  I have no problem with some protectionism, because it is in many ways, a defense of the borders of the US, the likes of DeMint support the sending of jobs and technology to red China. My hope with a Bush loss, the "free" trade elemnets will exit the party.
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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2004, 09:56:50 AM »


 There is no free lunch. So far, mainly because Clinton was such a big supporter of "free" trade(not to mention his immigration policies led to a dramatic increse in illegal immigration), the opposition to "free" trade was muted.

   It comes down to this, people in the lower middle class are economically stressed, so far because of credit expansion and home re-fis, they have been able to reduce some of the pain, but these are short term. While the benifit to the top 20% of income earners of the US is clear, the benifit of free trade for most of the rest of the citizens in the US are far from clear, the vast majority of the savings in "free" trade line the pockets of the rich, they do not reduce costs to most of the consumers, yet it puts severe down ward pressue4 on wages.

  To the "conservatives" in here, as I said, go beyond talk radio and the WSJ op ed pages(yes its a broken record by so many parrot the propaganda from t hese sources) and look behind the economics numbers, also realize this, the current trads of jobs being exported and cheap labor being imported WILL result in the US becoming a European style welfare state, as enough economically displaced workers get fed UP.

  It is my estimate that the dual issues of uncontrolled immigration and "free" trade is costing Bush 5 to 10 points nationally.
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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2004, 10:51:45 AM »



   The way "free" trade is current conducted is not sustainable, and harmful to Capitalism long term. Bush is sticking to his strong support for "free" tarde, ashame he didnt learn anything from his fathers re election effort in 92.

  As for Inez Tenenbaum, she has yet to be defined in the race. So far, the polls have indicated that Beasley would be the strongest canidate against her, though no matter who wins the GOP primary, the GOP nature of SC is though for any Democrat to win in.
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