Does BRTD have better than average music taste on Atlas?

[Zohran "The Sword of Islam" Mamdani]

Not unless 50%+ of Atlas listens to rap or EDM.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

LOLNO

[C r a b c a k e]

Somethig like taste in music is so subjective, I don't even know how to answer this question. What is the universal objective measurement for "good" vs. 'bad" taste in music, and why are so many people so judgmental about something as dumb and arbitrary as what songs other people listen to?

dude, Nickleback sucks, just accept it

They aren't great AT ALL, but they've been s___ on so much that at this point they're underrated.

I don't really disagree.  They play rock music, so it's better by default than 97% of the popular music for the last 2 decades.


But it's still fun to bash them

Since I'm a big fan of good rock music, bad rock music just viscerally pisses me off more than other bad music. Hence my comment about pop-punk above and Nickelback fall into a similar category.

This is why i think the decoupling of rock from chart success etc is probably a good thing for the genre. Bands like King Gizzard, St Vincent, Arcade Fire, Radiohead, Tame Impala, Fleet Foxes, Father John Misty, Animal Collective, MGMT, Car Seat Headrest, Violent Soho and so on are free to do their thing, largely untethered to keeping up with current trends; and rock groups that are really interested in becoming stonking rich can go down the Inagine Dragons/Maroon 5 route.

[Santander]

Somethig like taste in music is so subjective, I don't even know how to answer this question. What is the universal objective measurement for "good" vs. 'bad" taste in music, and why are so many people so judgmental about something as dumb and arbitrary as what songs other people listen to?

dude, Nickleback sucks, just accept it

They aren't great AT ALL, but they've been s___ on so much that at this point they're underrated.

I don't really disagree.  They play rock music, so it's better by default than 97% of the popular music for the last 2 decades.


But it's still fun to bash them

Since I'm a big fan of good rock music, bad rock music just viscerally pisses me off more than other bad music. Hence my comment about pop-punk above and Nickelback fall into a similar category.

This is why i think the decoupling of rock from chart success etc is probably a good thing for the genre. Bands like King Gizzard, St Vincent, Arcade Fire, Radiohead, Tame Impala, Fleet Foxes, Father John Misty, Animal Collective, MGMT, Car Seat Headrest, Violent Soho and so on are free to do their thing, largely untethered to keeping up with current trends; and rock groups that are really interested in becoming stonking rich can go down the Inagine Dragons/Maroon 5 route.

Isn't that pretty typical for creative endeavors, though? Or many other things, for that matter.

[C r a b c a k e]

Somethig like taste in music is so subjective, I don't even know how to answer this question. What is the universal objective measurement for "good" vs. 'bad" taste in music, and why are so many people so judgmental about something as dumb and arbitrary as what songs other people listen to?

dude, Nickleback sucks, just accept it

They aren't great AT ALL, but they've been s___ on so much that at this point they're underrated.

I don't really disagree.  They play rock music, so it's better by default than 97% of the popular music for the last 2 decades.


But it's still fun to bash them

Since I'm a big fan of good rock music, bad rock music just viscerally pisses me off more than other bad music. Hence my comment about pop-punk above and Nickelback fall into a similar category.

This is why i think the decoupling of rock from chart success etc is probably a good thing for the genre. Bands like King Gizzard, St Vincent, Arcade Fire, Radiohead, Tame Impala, Fleet Foxes, Father John Misty, Animal Collective, MGMT, Car Seat Headrest, Violent Soho and so on are free to do their thing, largely untethered to keeping up with current trends; and rock groups that are really interested in becoming stonking rich can go down the Inagine Dragons/Maroon 5 route.

Isn't that pretty typical for creative endeavors, though? Or many other things, for that matter.

Yeah, the same thing happened to jazz once its practitioners realised they didn't need to go chasing the mainstream anymore.

[Gracile]

It would be important to determine what exactly is the average Atlasian’s musical taste (if there even is one given the diversity of the community’s interests).

[Velasco]

I assume you didn't like those incredible bands from Iowa, did you?

It would be important to determine what exactly is the average Atlasian’s musical taste (if there even is one given the diversity of the community’s interests).

This and tell me what is "good rock" for you, or how many CAN records have you listened to in your life

I adore threads discussing BRTD musical tastes

[Consuming is good, it's what we're made for]

If he wasn't such a dick about it, I would probably say yes. I can't imagine being in your thirties and still talking down to teenagers on the internet because they haven't heard of -insert niche Nebraska powerviolence band that was active for 3 months in 2001- and instead choose to listen to metalcore (which he also listens to, just not the dumb gay kind that YOU listen to.)

[Diabolical Materialism]

All the stuff I've seen him post sounds kinda whiny and basic. Not particularly impressed but I was never a fan of anything "emo" or with "-core" at the end of it.

[Santander]

All the stuff I've seen him post sounds kinda whiny and basic. Not particularly impressed but I was never a fan of anything "emo" or with "-core" at the end of it.

BRTD is my main source of music recommendations.

[Diabolical Materialism]

All the stuff I've seen him post sounds kinda whiny and basic. Not particularly impressed but I was never a fan of anything "emo" or with "-core" at the end of it.

BRTD is my main source of music recommendations.

They let you guys listen to music in the asylums?

[DINGO Joe]

The correct answer is yes and no

[falling apart like the ashes of American flags]

If he wasn't such a dick about it, I would probably say yes. I can't imagine being in your thirties and still talking down to teenagers on the internet because they haven't heard of -insert niche Nebraska powerviolence band that was active for 3 months in 2001- and instead choose to listen to metalcore (which he also listens to, just not the dumb gay kind that YOU listen to.)

You do realize that there's like a massive chasm of difference between 90s style "BandNamesWithoutSpacesBetweenWords" metalcore and 00s style Warped Tour style metalcore. Comparing them is like saying that Blink-182 and the Dead Kennedys are basically the same because "they're both punk."

[Consuming is good, it's what we're made for]

If he wasn't such a dick about it, I would probably say yes. I can't imagine being in your thirties and still talking down to teenagers on the internet because they haven't heard of -insert niche Nebraska powerviolence band that was active for 3 months in 2001- and instead choose to listen to metalcore (which he also listens to, just not the dumb gay kind that YOU listen to.)

You do realize that there's like a massive chasm of difference between 90s style "BandNamesWithoutSpacesBetweenWords" metalcore and 00s style Warped Tour style metalcore. Comparing them is like saying that Blink-182 and the Dead Kennedys are basically the same because "they're both punk."

You literally listen to For Today, your #1 meme is a reference to one of their songs--just about every one of my favorite metalcore bands has toured with them and considers them an influence. A ton more bands I love have toured with The Ghost Inside and are friends with those dudes. You're splitting hairs because you think I listen to, like, Asking Alexandria, a band I haven't listened to in 10 years.

[25 Abril/Aprile Sempre!]

If he wasn't such a dick about it, I would probably say yes. I can't imagine being in your thirties and still talking down to teenagers on the internet because they haven't heard of -insert niche Nebraska powerviolence band that was active for 3 months in 2001- and instead choose to listen to metalcore (which he also listens to, just not the dumb gay kind that YOU listen to.)

You do realize that there's like a massive chasm of difference between 90s style "BandNamesWithoutSpacesBetweenWords" metalcore and 00s style Warped Tour style metalcore. Comparing them is like saying that Blink-182 and the Dead Kennedys are basically the same because "they're both punk."

You literally listen to For Today, your #1 meme is a reference to one of their songs--just about every one of my favorite metalcore bands has toured with them and considers them an influence. A ton more bands I love have toured with The Ghost Inside and are friends with those dudes. You're splitting hairs because you think I listen to, like, Asking Alexandria, a band I haven't listened to in 10 years.

You think that one is his #1 meme and not the one coming from The Ghost Inside?

[Consuming is good, it's what we're made for]

If he wasn't such a dick about it, I would probably say yes. I can't imagine being in your thirties and still talking down to teenagers on the internet because they haven't heard of -insert niche Nebraska powerviolence band that was active for 3 months in 2001- and instead choose to listen to metalcore (which he also listens to, just not the dumb gay kind that YOU listen to.)

You do realize that there's like a massive chasm of difference between 90s style "BandNamesWithoutSpacesBetweenWords" metalcore and 00s style Warped Tour style metalcore. Comparing them is like saying that Blink-182 and the Dead Kennedys are basically the same because "they're both punk."

You literally listen to For Today, your #1 meme is a reference to one of their songs--just about every one of my favorite metalcore bands has toured with them and considers them an influence. A ton more bands I love have toured with The Ghost Inside and are friends with those dudes. You're splitting hairs because you think I listen to, like, Asking Alexandria, a band I haven't listened to in 10 years.

You think that one is his #1 meme and not the one coming from The Ghost Inside?

Yeah I guess they're pretty much interchangeable. Point still stands.

[Diabolical Materialism]

What is the appeal to emo music in the first place? I've listened to a lot of bands and genres that are "emo adjacent" and were popular in the same time period, but I never personally saw the appeal to that stuff. Can someone who enjoys it tell me what they like about it?

[Consuming is good, it's what we're made for]

What is the appeal to emo music in the first place? I've listened to a lot of bands and genres that are "emo adjacent" and were popular in the same time period, but I never personally saw the appeal to that stuff. Can someone who enjoys it tell me what they like about it?

I mean, strictly speaking for the "emo" and emo adjacent bands I listen to like Sunny Day Real Estate, pg. 99, Saetia, La Dispute, Touche Amore, etc.--it's about the emotion, which seems kind of obvious. The way that certain artists can translate emotions into music and it feels perfectly replicated is a very powerful experience. I was actually listening to La Dispute's Wildlife last night and remarking about how real those situations feel, as if I was not just hearing the stories described but physically experiencing them.

For the more "metal" stuff I listen to, it's about the emotion in a different way; catharsis almost. As if my sense of angst or terror or depression is human and therefore okay. A lot of those songs have helped me find ways to effectively manage my mental health in a way that isn't so self-destructive. It's given me an outlet where I don't have to worry that I might hurt myself if I can just put on certain artists and kind of "talk it out" as it were.

I think one of the most profound things about emotional music (be it capital E-Emo or music that is lumped in to the "emo" umbrella) is that there is such a broad spectrum of styles, both musically and lyrically, that I can always find new stuff without getting bored. I have, of course, broadened my horizons over the years and now listen to all different kinds of music, but I often find myself "coming home" to certain artists and records and songs that have been really impactful and helpful for me throughout my life.

[Badger]

If he wasn't such a dick about it, I would probably say yes. I can't imagine being in your thirties and still talking down to teenagers on the internet because they haven't heard of -insert niche Nebraska powerviolence band that was active for 3 months in 2001- and instead choose to listen to metalcore (which he also listens to, just not the dumb gay kind that YOU listen to.)

[Diabolical Materialism]

What is the appeal to emo music in the first place? I've listened to a lot of bands and genres that are "emo adjacent" and were popular in the same time period, but I never personally saw the appeal to that stuff. Can someone who enjoys it tell me what they like about it?

I mean, strictly speaking for the "emo" and emo adjacent bands I listen to like Sunny Day Real Estate, pg. 99, Saetia, La Dispute, Touche Amore, etc.--it's about the emotion, which seems kind of obvious. The way that certain artists can translate emotions into music and it feels perfectly replicated is a very powerful experience. I was actually listening to La Dispute's Wildlife last night and remarking about how real those situations feel, as if I was not just hearing the stories described but physically experiencing them.

For the more "metal" stuff I listen to, it's about the emotion in a different way; catharsis almost. As if my sense of angst or terror or depression is human and therefore okay. A lot of those songs have helped me find ways to effectively manage my mental health in a way that isn't so self-destructive. It's given me an outlet where I don't have to worry that I might hurt myself if I can just put on certain artists and kind of "talk it out" as it were.

I think one of the most profound things about emotional music (be it capital E-Emo or music that is lumped in to the "emo" umbrella) is that there is such a broad spectrum of styles, both musically and lyrically, that I can always find new stuff without getting bored. I have, of course, broadened my horizons over the years and now listen to all different kinds of music, but I often find myself "coming home" to certain artists and records and songs that have been really impactful and helpful for me throughout my life.

I can respect that. I think the usual vocal style of the genre is just a big hurdle for me to get over, not sure if I will tbh. I think I also just got turned off by a lot of the personal experiences I've had with guys in the "emo scene". Felt a little too white picket fencey for me.

[Consuming is good, it's what we're made for]

What is the appeal to emo music in the first place? I've listened to a lot of bands and genres that are "emo adjacent" and were popular in the same time period, but I never personally saw the appeal to that stuff. Can someone who enjoys it tell me what they like about it?

I mean, strictly speaking for the "emo" and emo adjacent bands I listen to like Sunny Day Real Estate, pg. 99, Saetia, La Dispute, Touche Amore, etc.--it's about the emotion, which seems kind of obvious. The way that certain artists can translate emotions into music and it feels perfectly replicated is a very powerful experience. I was actually listening to La Dispute's Wildlife last night and remarking about how real those situations feel, as if I was not just hearing the stories described but physically experiencing them.

For the more "metal" stuff I listen to, it's about the emotion in a different way; catharsis almost. As if my sense of angst or terror or depression is human and therefore okay. A lot of those songs have helped me find ways to effectively manage my mental health in a way that isn't so self-destructive. It's given me an outlet where I don't have to worry that I might hurt myself if I can just put on certain artists and kind of "talk it out" as it were.

I think one of the most profound things about emotional music (be it capital E-Emo or music that is lumped in to the "emo" umbrella) is that there is such a broad spectrum of styles, both musically and lyrically, that I can always find new stuff without getting bored. I have, of course, broadened my horizons over the years and now listen to all different kinds of music, but I often find myself "coming home" to certain artists and records and songs that have been really impactful and helpful for me throughout my life.

I can respect that. I think the usual vocal style of the genre is just a big hurdle for me to get over, not sure if I will tbh. I think I also just got turned off by a lot of the personal experiences I've had with guys in the "emo scene". Felt a little too white picket fencey for me.

That's understandable. Harsh vocals are about as non-conventional as it gets as far as music goes. There are few things as abrasive in music as harsh vocals, so it's something you're either into (or at least willing to get into) or you're not. I also agree that there's a certain culture in emo music circle (or, in my own personal experience, metal circles) where they are primarily male, primarily white, primarily cliquey...it's a place of inclusion for supposed outcasts that ends up turning into a place of exclusion for people who aren't the right kind of outcast. I've noticed that things are way less toxic in the Lancaster area (at least with the folks I've come to know) as they were when I was going to shows in and around Philly.

[Diabolical Materialism]

What is the appeal to emo music in the first place? I've listened to a lot of bands and genres that are "emo adjacent" and were popular in the same time period, but I never personally saw the appeal to that stuff. Can someone who enjoys it tell me what they like about it?

I mean, strictly speaking for the "emo" and emo adjacent bands I listen to like Sunny Day Real Estate, pg. 99, Saetia, La Dispute, Touche Amore, etc.--it's about the emotion, which seems kind of obvious. The way that certain artists can translate emotions into music and it feels perfectly replicated is a very powerful experience. I was actually listening to La Dispute's Wildlife last night and remarking about how real those situations feel, as if I was not just hearing the stories described but physically experiencing them.

For the more "metal" stuff I listen to, it's about the emotion in a different way; catharsis almost. As if my sense of angst or terror or depression is human and therefore okay. A lot of those songs have helped me find ways to effectively manage my mental health in a way that isn't so self-destructive. It's given me an outlet where I don't have to worry that I might hurt myself if I can just put on certain artists and kind of "talk it out" as it were.

I think one of the most profound things about emotional music (be it capital E-Emo or music that is lumped in to the "emo" umbrella) is that there is such a broad spectrum of styles, both musically and lyrically, that I can always find new stuff without getting bored. I have, of course, broadened my horizons over the years and now listen to all different kinds of music, but I often find myself "coming home" to certain artists and records and songs that have been really impactful and helpful for me throughout my life.

I can respect that. I think the usual vocal style of the genre is just a big hurdle for me to get over, not sure if I will tbh. I think I also just got turned off by a lot of the personal experiences I've had with guys in the "emo scene". Felt a little too white picket fencey for me.

That's understandable. Harsh vocals are about as non-conventional as it gets as far as music goes. There are few things as abrasive in music as harsh vocals, so it's something you're either into (or at least willing to get into) or you're not. I also agree that there's a certain culture in emo music circle (or, in my own personal experience, metal circles) where they are primarily male, primarily white, primarily cliquey...it's a place of inclusion for supposed outcasts that ends up turning into a place of exclusion for people who aren't the right kind of outcast. I've noticed that things are way less toxic in the Lancaster area (at least with the folks I've come to know) as they were when I was going to shows in and around Philly.

I've actually got no problem with harsh vocals. I like a decent amount of black and death metal, where the vocals are little more than screaming. I think that emo vocals have this sort of, and I mean no offense by this, whiny nasal quality that I just can't get my head around.

Honestly I think all music scenes in the Philly metro are full of straight up garbage people. Must be all the lead in the water who knows.

[falling apart like the ashes of American flags]

What is the appeal to emo music in the first place? I've listened to a lot of bands and genres that are "emo adjacent" and were popular in the same time period, but I never personally saw the appeal to that stuff. Can someone who enjoys it tell me what they like about it?

What are some examples of what you listened to? Stuff like Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance, et al doesn't count.

[falling apart like the ashes of American flags]

The difference between The Ghost Inside and all those mall metalcore stuff btw is The Ghost Inside actually came from the hardcore scene. They weren't just kids trying to imitate some MySpace-core bands to make it big, as evidenced by that they never had those ridiculous haircuts or wore makeup. They were legit and it shows in their sound, it's actually quite different from Attack Attack or whoever.

[Consuming is good, it's what we're made for]

The difference between The Ghost Inside and all those mall metalcore stuff btw is The Ghost Inside actually came from the hardcore scene. They weren't just kids trying to imitate some MySpace-core bands to make it big, as evidenced by that they never had those ridiculous haircuts or wore makeup. They were legit and it shows in their sound, it's actually quite different from Attack Attack or whoever.

How do you feel about the band Terror