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« on: January 21, 2021, 11:31:30 PM »

Obviously yes.
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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2021, 12:33:20 AM »

Yeah. We like some of the same music, though I'd say I have broader taste. What counts is his passion. BRTD truly connects with the art and sometimes that's all that really matters.
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2021, 01:42:29 AM »

Yeah. We like some of the same music, though I'd say I have broader taste. What counts is his passion. BRTD truly connects with the art and sometimes that's all that really matters.

its not so much passion in my view as monomania and closemindedness. He identifies with his hands th as a symbol of his scene first and foremost, and the actual music itself is secondary.
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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2021, 03:56:43 AM »

Probably; Atlas on the whole has surprisingly poor taste in music, with a lot of posters almost exclusively into bland modern pop or mediocre “classic” rock, and he does stand out in having a more interesting and developed taste than those. However, Badger’s point above is a valid one as well.
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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2021, 07:16:21 AM »

He keeps insisting that La Quiete is good Italian music and refusing to inform himself about actual good Italian music, so the answer is No a priori.

Also, his rare ventures outside of hardcore/emo are... questionable. Machine Gun Kelly??
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« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2021, 07:40:29 AM »
« Edited: January 22, 2021, 07:44:17 AM by Laki »

Yes, but that's a low bar. (sorry)

He could widen his taste however, because there's more than just emo out there, and idk what else he listens too. On top of that, emo isn't exactly my genre (i think).

but yes

BRTD > average taste of Atlas > average taste of foreigners > average taste of people in the Benelux

but

average RYM taste > BRTD (and even the average RYM taste still suffers from a lot of herd mentality.)
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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2021, 03:59:24 PM »

Just going to chime in to say that I do listen to music that is not emo (or even "emo-adjacent") and in fact that's the majority of music that I listen to. I think people tend to miss that even just music in my subculture's genres is still a pretty diverse range.

Yeah. We like some of the same music, though I'd say I have broader taste. What counts is his passion. BRTD truly connects with the art and sometimes that's all that really matters.

its not so much passion in my view as monomania and closemindedness. He identifies with his hands th as a symbol of his scene first and foremost, and the actual music itself is secondary.

I still can't figure out what this is supposed to mean.
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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2021, 04:01:47 PM »

Yeah. We like some of the same music, though I'd say I have broader taste. What counts is his passion. BRTD truly connects with the art and sometimes that's all that really matters.

its not so much passion in my view as monomania and closemindedness. He identifies with his hands th bands as a symbol of his scene first and foremost, and the actual music itself is secondary.

I still can't figure out what this is supposed to mean.
This is what Google Translate Badger to English beta came up with.
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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2021, 04:07:02 PM »

Yeah. We like some of the same music, though I'd say I have broader taste. What counts is his passion. BRTD truly connects with the art and sometimes that's all that really matters.

its not so much passion in my view as monomania and closemindedness. He identifies with his hands th bands as a symbol of his scene first and foremost, and the actual music itself is secondary.

I still can't figure out what this is supposed to mean.
This is what Google Translate Badger to English beta came up with.

Ah. Well in my defense most of those bands I stan are actually pretty widely respected now even outside of the respective scene in publications like Pitchfork and Brooklyn Vegan. The latter has even ran some nostalgic pieces on "Dude Fest bands" and Orchid has become pretty all around acclaimed and regarded as an underground classic now (they never played Dude Fest as they broke up before Dude Fest was a thing, but they were definitely the ones who blew up that style's popularity.)

For example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Failing#Reception
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diary_(Sunny_Day_Real_Estate_album)#Legacy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchid_(hardcore_punk_band)#Style_and_legacy
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2021, 04:16:25 PM »

Seeing BRTD talk about emo and hardcore reminds me of an ex-girlfriend who was also strongly into that scene. It's not remotely my thing except for a small handful of acts (I dig Fugazi and At the Drive-In well enough), but I respect it. Once one goes beyond that ecosystem, however, it gets a bit dicey in BRTD-land.

Admittedly, music is my primary discipline IRL and my major, so I'm a bit particular about it. I tend not to show my true power level in communities not made for it cause it just tends to piss people off when I get passionate about how their favorite artists are problematic or how much I love 1960s Dutch electronica.
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2021, 04:34:50 PM »

Seeing BRTD talk about emo and hardcore reminds me of an ex-girlfriend who was also strongly into that scene. It's not remotely my thing except for a small handful of acts (I dig Fugazi and At the Drive-In well enough), but I respect it. Once one goes beyond that ecosystem, however, it gets a bit dicey in BRTD-land.

Admittedly, music is my primary discipline IRL and my major, so I'm a bit particular about it. I tend not to show my true power level in communities not made for it cause it just tends to piss people off when I get passionate about how their favorite artists are problematic or how much I love 1960s Dutch electronica.

I love you! Please share some 1960s Dutch electronics when you get a chance.
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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2021, 08:25:55 PM »

I basically listen to nothing but indie folk music and film scores - so I can't judge at all...

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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2021, 09:40:31 PM »

Probably about average, or maybe a bit higher. Definitely not below average IMO.
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2021, 10:23:45 PM »

BRTD has good taste and the average atlas poster has bad taste. Easy question
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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2021, 10:37:47 PM »

"what do you mean that no iowan bands exist except slipknot? there's [dumb emo crap nobody's ever heard of]"
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« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2021, 12:31:41 PM »

Somethig like taste in music is so subjective, I don't even know how to answer this question. What is the universal objective measurement for "good" vs. 'bad" taste in music, and why are so many people so judgmental about something as dumb and arbitrary as what songs other people listen to?
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« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2021, 11:31:13 PM »

I imagine the stereotypical Atlas user as listening to something dorky like electroswing, so regrettably, yes, BRTD is definitely above average.
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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2021, 01:57:46 AM »

No...

BRTD appears to forget the entire Punk Rock Movement in the name of being "edgy" to the point where he appears to forget the roots of the Punk Rock Movement in Minneapolis in the form of the "Zine" Maximum Rock & Roll, where those of us in the small towns were able to either mail order or place an order from our local record store for Punk Bands, which otherwise would have not been available to us.

BRTD is old enough of my generation to remember Maximum Rock & Roll Covers like this:

Needless to say, IMHO his musical taste has gone quite a bit downhill, compared to the classic Punk Bands of the early / mid 1980s....   Wink

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« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2021, 02:32:13 AM »

I was actually in the first "generation" (using the term in a different sense here and age range of at most 5 years) to get into punk via the Internet. This meant I entered the scene when it was in a sort of weird transition point and people would still do mail orders via catalogs like mentioned and pay with money orders but you would learn of those things via the Internet, sometimes even the catalogs were online. In hindsight that seems kind of weird since even with dial-up you could order online very easily but I guess habits die hard plus at the time there weren't cheap payment processors and a DIY label probably couldn't afford to set one up, some places took PayPal but then the customer would have to pay the service fees.

I miss those paper catalogs honestly.
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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2021, 01:03:59 AM »

Poll results seem to prove that yes, he does.
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« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2021, 01:08:40 AM »

Somethig like taste in music is so subjective, I don't even know how to answer this question. What is the universal objective measurement for "good" vs. 'bad" taste in music, and why are so many people so judgmental about something as dumb and arbitrary as what songs other people listen to?
dude, Nickleback sucks, just accept it
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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2021, 01:32:01 AM »

I don't know that it's possible for anyone on Atlas or not, to have worst music taste than BRTD. Emo and pop-punk suck.
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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2021, 02:41:53 AM »

Somethig like taste in music is so subjective, I don't even know how to answer this question. What is the universal objective measurement for "good" vs. 'bad" taste in music, and why are so many people so judgmental about something as dumb and arbitrary as what songs other people listen to?
dude, Nickleback sucks, just accept it
They aren't great AT ALL, but they've been s___ on so much that at this point they're underrated.
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« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2021, 03:17:43 AM »

Somethig like taste in music is so subjective, I don't even know how to answer this question. What is the universal objective measurement for "good" vs. 'bad" taste in music, and why are so many people so judgmental about something as dumb and arbitrary as what songs other people listen to?
dude, Nickleback sucks, just accept it
They aren't great AT ALL, but they've been s___ on so much that at this point they're underrated.
I don't really disagree.  They play rock music, so it's better by default than 97% of the popular music for the last 2 decades.


But it's still fun to bash them Smiley
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« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2021, 04:36:29 PM »

Somethig like taste in music is so subjective, I don't even know how to answer this question. What is the universal objective measurement for "good" vs. 'bad" taste in music, and why are so many people so judgmental about something as dumb and arbitrary as what songs other people listen to?
dude, Nickleback sucks, just accept it
They aren't great AT ALL, but they've been s___ on so much that at this point they're underrated.
I don't really disagree.  They play rock music, so it's better by default than 97% of the popular music for the last 2 decades.


But it's still fun to bash them Smiley

Since I'm a big fan of good rock music, bad rock music just viscerally pisses me off more than other bad music. Hence my comment about pop-punk above and Nickelback fall into a similar category.
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