2024 Third Party and Independent Candidate General discussion

[PSOL]

#GreenWave. Are they Tulane supporters?

Tulane university?

Yeah. Their athletics teams' nickname is Green Wave. Just being funny.

lol

[NYSforKennedy2024]

SAM has finally elected a public official, First Selectman of Newtown, Connecticut, a former Democrat, Dan Rosenthal.

[PSOL]

Soooooo, it looks like this was a historic moment in US electoral history, and especially for third parties

GPUS

At least 13 Greens have been elected in local governments across the country., but primarily in Connecticut and Pennsylvania

For more major races promoted by the party, they had mixed results. While candidates like Madelyn Hoffman and Edwin DeJesus had good showings in New Jersey and Ohio, the most major Green Party elected official in the Midwest, Ward 2 councilor Cam Gordon *may* have been defeated by either a Socialist Alternative member or a generic Democrat due to RCV f•••ery.

PSL
Cathy Rojas got a respectable ~3%, basically the floor for the Left in New York City. The more vital aspects of this race was the grand endorsements of the PSL more openly getting and proclaiming, opening a box for future cooperation between the DSA and the Green Party
Constitution Splinters

Sheila Tittle and Sam lost, but they at least exist unlike the main Constitution Party

ASP
Had a great night. With 30% write-in votes for local council in Steubenville and an elected official in Franklin, Massachusetts—the party still grows.

Alliance
https://mobile.twitter.com/AlliancePTY/status/1455850414788780033

SWP
The fact that they woke up is a sight to behold, so far they’ve been getting at least one or two thousand votes per statewide race they’ve participated in.

There’s so much more going on that has yet to be announced

[StateBoiler]

Think I saw Libertarians had 130 candidates elected nationally yesterday.

[PSOL]

Think I saw Libertarians had 130 candidates elected nationally yesterday.

For clarity, post the results.

Libertarians are on the incline ever since 2012. I expect them to get a house seat within the next 6 years.

https://mobile.twitter.com/GPUSyouth/status/1456037379362467842

At least 16 Greens have been elected or reelected and there have been several candidates getting respectable county (2-3%) and mayoral (15+%) numbers. Greens are spinning this as a victory as they only lost two incumbents, albeit they were Cam Gordon (possibly) and a member in charge of taxes in Windham, CT in an otherwise good showing in that town
Socratic Gadfly, the most famous (ex)GP blogger, has been purged from the Georgia GP mailing list.

Meanwhile, most dissidents are acting as useful idiots for the People’s Party

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChadWilson2020/status/1454492759713325060

[StateBoiler]

Think I saw Libertarians had 130 candidates elected nationally yesterday.

For clarity, post the results.

https://www.lp.org/libertarian-party-shatters-records-as-unprecedented-number-of-libertarians-elected-to-office/

Libertarian Party Shatters Records as Unprecedented Number of Libertarians Elected to Office
by Laryssa Gaughen on November 3, 2021 in News, Press Release

(Alexandria, VA) In a record-setting night, the Libertarian Party nearly doubles its number of elected officials across the country.

The party estimates that voters across the United States elected approximately 150 candidates to office last night, with final totals expected to be much higher in the coming weeks due to close calls and write-in races.

Among the notable firsts in Tuesday’s elected and re-elected Libertarians is Ashley Shade, the first transgendered person elected to office in Massachusetts’s Berkshire County. Altamonte Springs, Florida Commissioner Jim Turney was re-elected for a third term, and Benjamin Seevers took the top spot in a 3-way race for North Apollo Borough Council, beating out two Republican challengers.
Libertarian National Committee Chair Whitney Bilyeu issued the following statement on Tuesday’s election results:

“Seeing so many new Libertarians join the already growing ranks of our hundreds of elected officials around the country is truly inspiring. America has become increasingly weary with the two establishment parties as they fail repeatedly to address Americans’ most pressing concerns. This election shows one unmistakable fact: the Libertarian Party has become an integral and growing part of the American political conversation.”

Started watching the results video and it seems there are 100 of them in Pennsylvania that were going to win by acclamation.

[PSOL]

So the Independent party of New York lost Syracuse to a moderate Democrat. They are, in losing that race, reduced to one State Senator. Worse, their registration numbers see at least 100,000 membership registration loss if Wikipedia and BAN are to be believed. I guess factional conflict and the recruitment of their top stars into the Republican Party took its toll.
Green electoral wins have risen to 17

[StateBoiler]

So the Independent party of New York lost Syracuse to a moderate Democrat. They are, in losing that race, reduced to one State Senator. Worse, their registration numbers see at least 100,000 membership registration loss if Wikipedia and BAN are to be believed. I guess factional conflict and the recruitment of their top stars into the Republican Party took its toll.

Syracuse, N.Y. — Syracuse Mayor Ben Walsh has won election to a second term as the city’s top official.

Walsh defeated two challengers, Democrat Khalid Bey and Republican Janet Burman.

Walsh received more than 60% of the vote, according to unofficial results Tuesday night. Bey received 27% and Burman 12%.

Walsh will begin his second term on Jan. 1, 2022. It will be his last term, since mayors have a two-term limit.

Walsh was candidate of the Independence Party in 2017. His father and grandfather I think were elected Republicans, so good political pedigree, but he refused to run on the Republican ballot line. This time the IP had lost their ballot access line, but I went back and looked and Walsh petitioned for an Independence Party ballot line for this election as well.

The last couple weeks a flyer went out printed by the New York Democratic Party comparing Walsh to the Proud Boys. Walsh endorsed Biden for presidential election. Neither the Democratic candidate nor the state party would take responsibility.

[PSOL]

Oh, I looked at the incomplete results.

[PSOL]

Green electoral victories have risen by 18 in total, leaving there to be at least 14 net electoral gains for the party since 2021. I feel that if they got at least 20 net electoral wins and held on to their incumbents, this would have been an absolute victory for the party given their poor condition from the disaffiliations and COVID.

I have added the World Socialist Website ran by the SEP in our blogs, along with CNP and AIP of Cali to our list. By 2022 I expect to add the Liberty Union Party (now renamed Green Mountain) and the SWP.

[omar04]

Think I saw Libertarians had 130 candidates elected nationally yesterday.

For clarity, post the results.

Libertarians are on the incline ever since 2012. I expect them to get a house seat within the next 6 years.

Any idea of what region? They seem pretty spread out to a number of city councils and townships.

[StateBoiler]

Think I saw Libertarians had 130 candidates elected nationally yesterday.

For clarity, post the results.

Libertarians are on the incline ever since 2012. I expect them to get a house seat within the next 6 years.

Any idea of what region? They seem pretty spread out to a number of city councils and townships.

At this link https://www.lp.org/elected-officials-2/ , it says there are a total of 229 Libertarians holding elected office: 99 partisan and 130 nonpartisan. Partisan is you appeared on the ballot with the party designation "Libertarian". Nonpartisan based on current dues-paying member of the Libertarian Party or currently registered to vote as a Libertarian.

[Continential]

When was the last time a Libertariam hit 10% in a House election with a Democratic and Republican candidate running?

[omar04]

Think I saw Libertarians had 130 candidates elected nationally yesterday.

For clarity, post the results.

Libertarians are on the incline ever since 2012. I expect them to get a house seat within the next 6 years.

Any idea of what region? They seem pretty spread out to a number of city councils and townships.

At this link https://www.lp.org/elected-officials-2/ , it says there are a total of 229 Libertarians holding elected office: 99 partisan and 130 nonpartisan. Partisan is you appeared on the ballot with the party designation "Libertarian". Nonpartisan based on current dues-paying member of the Libertarian Party or currently registered to vote as a Libertarian.

I actually looked at that before I posted that but I'm unsure where they could actually get enough votes to win a House seat beyond somewhere in Indiana.

[omar04]

When was the last time a Libertariam hit 10% in a House election with a Democratic and Republican candidate running?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_House_of_Representatives_election_in_Alaska

A Libertarian also got 27.68% running as the sole non Democrat in a safe seat back in 2018.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington%27s_2nd_congressional_district#2018

There's also this article on their official website summarizing their 2020 results: https://www.lp.org/2020-election/

[StateBoiler]

Think I saw Libertarians had 130 candidates elected nationally yesterday.

For clarity, post the results.

Libertarians are on the incline ever since 2012. I expect them to get a house seat within the next 6 years.

Any idea of what region? They seem pretty spread out to a number of city councils and townships.

At this link https://www.lp.org/elected-officials-2/ , it says there are a total of 229 Libertarians holding elected office: 99 partisan and 130 nonpartisan. Partisan is you appeared on the ballot with the party designation "Libertarian". Nonpartisan based on current dues-paying member of the Libertarian Party or currently registered to vote as a Libertarian.

I actually looked at that before I posted that but I'm unsure where they could actually get enough votes to win a House seat beyond somewhere in Indiana.

Well as the Democratic Party continues to do its total disappearing act from wide swathes of the country that's been going on for at least a decade, who knows what the future will bring. You're either going to have single-party government for decades or people are going to vote for an alternative that's not the Democrats.

[PSOL]

The number of Green electoral wins this cycle has gone up to 20, leaving their nice infographic they posted on Twitter to be incorrect.

https://mobile.twitter.com/GreenPartyUS/status/1457413137959989256
The LMN chair lost in the Brush, CO mayoral election by 16%. Meanwhile the Reform Party candidates all lost, although one did get 33% for city council.

[StateBoiler]

Updated Forward Party site. https://www.forwardparty.com/

[StateBoiler]

BAN:

On November 2, Minneapolis elected two members to the Board of Estimate and Taxation. The races were citywide. Samantha Pree-Stinson, a member of the Socialist Party, won one of the seats.

The Board has six members, but only two are elected directly. The other members are the Mayor, the President of the City Council, a member of the Park and Recreation Board, and a city council member. The latter two members are chosen by their respective boards. The Board of Estimate and Taxation sets maximum tax rates for most city funds, and helps manage the city’s debt.

There were four candidates. Ranked choice voting was used, but the results would have been the same without RCV. Thanks to Independent Political Report for this news. Here is a page from the Socialist Party’s website, with a statement by Pree-Stinson.

[PSOL]

BAN:

On November 2, Minneapolis elected two members to the Board of Estimate and Taxation. The races were citywide. Samantha Pree-Stinson, a member of the Socialist Party, won one of the seats.

The Board has six members, but only two are elected directly. The other members are the Mayor, the President of the City Council, a member of the Park and Recreation Board, and a city council member. The latter two members are chosen by their respective boards. The Board of Estimate and Taxation sets maximum tax rates for most city funds, and helps manage the city’s debt.

There were four candidates. Ranked choice voting was used, but the results would have been the same without RCV. Thanks to Independent Political Report for this news. Here is a page from the Socialist Party’s website, with a statement by Pree-Stinson.

She was running on the ballot as a Green. Of course given that there are now Green Party people on the board of SPUSA and Socialists in the Green Party council, this is unsurprising. The formula for the Green Party in basically acting as a platform for different social democrats and socialists to run under has been a working relationship for all involved.

[PSOL]

https://mobile.twitter.com/AmSolidarity/status/1459333423680655361

[PSOL]

Thanks to Canis, we have a map detailing the results in New York and New Jersey

[StateBoiler]

News PSOL will like:

http://ballot-access.org/2021/11/15/two-california-ballot-qualified-parties-will-run-a-joint-campaign-for-statewide-office-in-2022/

The Green Party of California, and the Peace & Freedom Party, have agreed to a unified 2022 campaign for statewide offices. This means that the parties will support each other’s endorsed statewide candidates. The Peace & Freedom Party has endorsed Greens for three statewide offices, and the Green Party has endorsed PFP candidates for three other statewide offices.

The Green candidates are Gary Blenner for Secretary of State, Dan Kapelovitz for Attorney General, and Laura Wells for Controller.

The PFP candidates are John Parker for U.S. Senate, Meghann Adams for Treasurer, and Nathalie Hrizi for Insurance Commissioner.

Further meetings of the two parties will probably make endorsements for Governor and Lieutenant Governor.

It is extremely unlikely that any of these candidates will qualify for the November ballot, due to the top-two system.

The Green Party acted in its October 26 meeting, and PFP acted at its November 14-15 meeting. These endorsements have no effect on the appearance of the June 2022 primary ballot, but this cooperation enhances the chances that each party will poll at least 2% of the vote in the June primary, and thereby retain their ballot status (although each party now has enough registrations to retain qualified status, regardless of the vote totals). Of course, there is nothing stopping other members of those two parties from also running for the various statewide offices, but such other individuals would not have the endorsement of either party. Thanks to Kevin Akin for this news.

Who gets the unified left spot to run against Pelosi in SF?

[PSOL]

The Green Dissidents continue to turn on one another


https://mobile.twitter.com/ReformParty/status/1460221198550319104
Life & Liberty, largest Constitution splinter, hosting virtual convention December 12th

[StateBoiler]

From November 23rd's Politico Playbook on a former independent presidential candidate.

FLIGHT OF FANCY — NYC Mayor-elect ERIC ADAMS claimed that he paid his way to a post-election political retreat in Puerto Rico on what many assumed was a commercial flight, telling reporters the trip was on “my dollar, my dime and my time.” But sources tell Playbook that he and his partner, TRACEY COLLINS, flew to San Juan on the G4 private jet of crypto-billionaire BROCK PIERCE. The three had dinner with Gov. PEDRO PIERLUISI of Puerto Rico, an island that Pierce once dreamed of turning into a “Burning Man Utopia.” Pierce, who’s been informally advising Adams on all things crypto, attended an election night party for the mayor-elect. And Adams has vowed to make New York City “the center of the cryptocurrency industry.” Literally putting his money where his mouth is, he said he’ll take his first three paychecks as mayor in Bitcoin.

The mayor-elect’s spokesperson EVAN THIES said Adams “paid for a seat on a private flight through a travel agent, and he flew commercial on his return trip,” but would not provide travel receipts from the trip.

As Adams bones up on crypto, Pierce is wading back into politics after an ill-fated run for president in 2020. He filed a “statement of organization” with the FEC earlier this month as he weighs running as an independent for the seat of retiring Sen. PATRICK LEAHY (D-Vt.). The filing allows Pierce to start raising campaign money.

Pierce — an eccentric, fedora-wearing former child actor of “Mighty Ducks” fame — was dubbed “the Hippie King of Crypto-currency” by Rolling Stone in 2018.

I feel like if anyone in the New York City government wanted to be an asshole about it, they could challenge Adams on taking his first 3 paychecks in Bitcoin in federal court and win. I think there's a law saying that the U.S. dollar is valid for all legal tender and debts and it's not to be rejected.