2024 Third Party and Independent Candidate General discussion

[PSOL]

With a candidate in Atlanta. I think that it is fair to say that the SWP has woken up and is on the move. The SWP has been dormant for nearly 40 years, suffering from splits and burnouts of cadres on a scale unseen of in political history. For Trotsky’s old (US-branch) party to be on the move after getting out of bed in 2016 and the house in 2020 sure is something.
Profiles on the diverse group running for NYC mayor
AIP suing to get rid of the top-4 initiative. Top anything’s are usually a good way to lock third parties out, just like how ranked choice voting offers an illusion of choice.
It seems like the importance of the official Green Party newsletter is coming back with more stories this year than in the 2016 election season and 2017.

They are reporting news like how the NJ Youth branch has grown by a 100 members this year alone.
The Alliance Party has endorsed the PRO Act and immigration amnesty programs. This party clearly are just a more upscale version of the Democratic Party. Of course, they could just be lying and obsfucating about their beliefs for retweets and clout like we’ve seen other parties do so.

[PSOL]

Princess Blanding getting mainstream attention after crashing the debate

https://mobile.twitter.com/PrinBlandingVA/status/1448048757493452802

I’d like for Blanding to join the GPV after the VA race is all set and done.

[PSOL]

With Top X ballot reforms all the rage by the local and state governments, it seems like the pushers of these legislation are billionaires. Of course.
The Co-chair of the Maryland Green Party has been detained and arrested on what is claimed to be trumped up charges for peacefully protesting

https://mobile.twitter.com/AWKWORDrap/status/1449483372192059395

Very similar to the arrests of the Salt Lake PSL protestors and more recent People’s Party M4A marchers
https://mobile.twitter.com/AmSolidarity/status/1450873188687257600

Also very scary stuff they are tweeting out for women and sexual minorities

https://mobile.twitter.com/AmSolidarity/status/1450484980363243527

[Heebie Jeebie]

Also very scary stuff they are tweeting out for women and sexual minorities

https://mobile.twitter.com/AmSolidarity/status/1450484980363243527

They're right about this, though.

https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p/anatomy-of-a-bad-idea-affirmative

[PSOL]

Also very scary stuff they are tweeting out for women and sexual minorities

https://mobile.twitter.com/AmSolidarity/status/1450484980363243527

They're right about this, though.

https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p/anatomy-of-a-bad-idea-affirmative

Blaming the Sexual Revolution on this and painting that period as a bad thing is my main concern.

[Heebie Jeebie]

Also very scary stuff they are tweeting out for women and sexual minorities

https://mobile.twitter.com/AmSolidarity/status/1450484980363243527

They're right about this, though.

https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p/anatomy-of-a-bad-idea-affirmative

Blaming the Sexual Revolution on this and painting that period as a bad thing is my main concern.

"Pictured: the current status of the Sexual Revolution" seems more like a criticism of the present moment than a criticism of "that period," but I see your point.

[StateBoiler]

Article on the SAM Party organizing in Connecticut.

https://www.theday.com/local-news/20211024/new-political-party-aims-to-build-roots-in-connecticut

[TrumpBritt24]

I thought the whole "Stork as our party logo" thing was the dead giveaway the ASP is a Trojan Horse for Christian neoconservatism, Christian democracy at best.

[StateBoiler]

I thought the whole "Stork as our party logo" thing was the dead giveaway the ASP is a Trojan Horse for Christian neoconservatism, Christian democracy at best.

Wow. You got that from a stork.

Regardless, we all know porcupines are best. Although it gives me an idea. If you had to come up with animals for third parties that presently don't have one for a symbol, what would they be? The Reform Party had the Eagle, although that can easily be called way too generic compared to the elephant, porcupine, and donkey.

[AltWorlder]

I thought the whole "Stork as our party logo" thing was the dead giveaway the ASP is a Trojan Horse for Christian neoconservatism, Christian democracy at best.

They are explicitly and avowedly a Christian democratic party.

They are not neoconservative, as they are for foreign policy noninterventionism and the Catholic doctrine of just war.

[PSOL]

ASP contesting Steubenville, OH by-election
https://mobile.twitter.com/AmSolidarity/status/1450874184071065605

I thought the whole "Stork as our party logo" thing was the dead giveaway the ASP is a Trojan Horse for Christian neoconservatism, Christian democracy at best.

Wow. You got that from a stork.

Regardless, we all know porcupines are best. Although it gives me an idea. If you had to come up with animals for third parties that presently don't have one for a symbol, what would they be? The Reform Party had the Eagle, although that can easily be called way too generic compared to the elephant, porcupine, and donkey.

Ok, this is difficult

PSL—we need an aggressive yet collectivist species with a present but weak hierarchical structure. A naked mole rat maybe?
Alliance—I get peacock vibes from them
SWP—beaver on account of their working class background
Socialist Alternative— bumble bee; see the PSL explanation
Forward—Dodo bird

[StateBoiler]

ASP contesting Steubenville, OH by-election
https://mobile.twitter.com/AmSolidarity/status/1450874184071065605

I thought the whole "Stork as our party logo" thing was the dead giveaway the ASP is a Trojan Horse for Christian neoconservatism, Christian democracy at best.

Wow. You got that from a stork.

Regardless, we all know porcupines are best. Although it gives me an idea. If you had to come up with animals for third parties that presently don't have one for a symbol, what would they be? The Reform Party had the Eagle, although that can easily be called way too generic compared to the elephant, porcupine, and donkey.

Ok, this is difficult

PSL—we need an aggressive yet collectivist species with a present but weak hierarchical structure. A naked mole rat maybe?
Alliance—I get peacock vibes from them
SWP—beaver on account of their working class background
Socialist Alternative— bumble bee; see the PSL explanation
Forward—Dodo bird

Forward would be more peacock than Alliance. Ditto People's Party. Lot of show and noise with nothing behind it yet.

Greens would probably be some near endangered animal.

[PSOL]

Peace and Freedom—Eel or Hippo on account of them having a codependent relationship with other leftist dentist fish and birds

Independence Party of New York—a fox on account of them being shifty

[StateBoiler]

Working Families Party of New York - the opossum, because when people look at them on the road to November to actually do something, they play dead

[PSOL]

So the Forward Party’s main plan is running in Democratic and Republican primaries.

Yeah, I’m not including Yang’s vanity project in this list, under the same reason the DSA and Communist Party are not included. So we are adding the SEP—or at minimum the WSWS—SWP, the Cali AIP, and the CNP most definitely in November on account of activity coming from the party. Next on the list if they appear active are PCUSA and then SPUSA when they start running for things in 2022

[StateBoiler]

So the Forward Party’s main plan is running in Democratic and Republican primaries.

So they're the Working Families Party but going to which primary makes more sense. It tells me they want to stay New York-focused. If they actually stay their own political brand, they're just being entryists. The main parties now have long been pretty weak and for most of the country only function as a cohesive unit as it concerns a ballot access line. Now whether they stay their own political brand - Forward Democrats and Forward Republicans working together in elections - is easier said in theory than in practice.

[PSOL]

So the Forward Party’s main plan is running in Democratic and Republican primaries.

So they're the Working Families Party but going to which primary makes more sense. It tells me they want to stay New York-focused. If they actually stay their own political brand, they're just being entryists. The main parties now have long been pretty weak and for most of the country only function as a cohesive unit as it concerns a ballot access line. Now whether they stay their own political brand - Forward Democrats and Forward Republicans working together in elections - is easier said in theory than in practice.

They are just going to be a cult around Yang.
A Left Unity slate appears backing the following candidates

Gary Blenner (Green), CA Secretary of State
Laura Wells (Green), CA Controller
Dan Kapelovitz (Green), CA Attorney General
Meghann Adams (Peace and Freedom), CA Treasurer
Nathalie Hrizi (Peace and Freedom), CA Insurance Commissioner
John Parker (Peace and Freedom), US Senate

What I expect is the National Green Party following the California endorsement of Cortez’s campaign for Congress along with begrudgingly backing CPUSA candidate Steven Estrada’s bid for state house district 1 in Long Beach. While nice to see official endorsements and help across candidates, this changes not a whole lot of support left unsaid.

There’s also the current list outside of California with the endorsement of various labor unions and community groups, the DSA, SAlt, among others here.

[StateBoiler]

October BAN Petitioning Update

2022 PETITIONING

The New Mexico Green Party has started its petition to regain party status, and has 600 signatures. It needs 3,483 signatures by June 2022.

The Common Sense Party of California, which needs approximately 73,000 registrations in order to qualify, had 17,322 registrants as of August 30, an increase of 5,357 in the last 45 days.

The Alabama Libertarian Party has 25,000 signatures. It needs 51,588 by May 24, 2022.

The North Dakota Libertarian Party has 1,000 signatures. It needs 7,000 by April 11, 2022.

[PSOL]

The PSL seems to not be concerned with petitioning to be on the ballot. This could be explained by them not knowing about these deadlines, which I doubt, or that they don’t see the material benefit in petitioning and wasting resources that could be put into their new base-building mutual aid work or ANSWER.

Still, that’s better than the Constitution Party, which from numerous splits and natural decline in voting base is expected to go extinct in one election cycle.
So apparently Nikita Oliver is a founder of the Oregon People’s Party. That makes the Seattle election a match against the Seattle Left—progressive Democrats and Seattle DSA, People’s Party, Progressive Party, and Socialist Alternative mainly—fighting for control against the bipartisan Oregon Democratic state party and the Republican Party.

Well this is going to be some show the 2nd.

[StateBoiler]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QFhfRFNY4DQ

Join Cara Schulz, Laryssa Gaughen, and a ton of 2021 Libertarian Party candidates for a live rundown of election night results from across the country!

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[PSOL]

Election Day is today

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlliancePTY/status/1454813020723548164

https://mobile.twitter.com/GreenPartyUS/status/1455322096310136838

https://mobile.twitter.com/GreenPartyUS/status/1455555870813732874

https://mobile.twitter.com/GreenPartyUS/status/1455564914035200011

https://mobile.twitter.com/ReformParty/status/1451296800279863297

[PSOL]

Also very scary stuff they are tweeting out for women and sexual minorities

https://mobile.twitter.com/AmSolidarity/status/1450484980363243527

They're right about this, though.

https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p/anatomy-of-a-bad-idea-affirmative

Blaming the Sexual Revolution on this and painting that period as a bad thing is my main concern.

"Pictured: the current status of the Sexual Revolution" seems more like a criticism of the present moment than a criticism of "that period," but I see your point.

Well, actually…

https://mobile.twitter.com/AmSolidarity/status/1455318707744428034

This is consistent with many “modernist” Catholics “supporting” the “Second wave” of feminism.

[StateBoiler]

#GreenWave. Are they Tulane supporters?

[PSOL]

#GreenWave. Are they Tulane supporters?

Tulane university?

[StateBoiler]

#GreenWave. Are they Tulane supporters?

Tulane university?

Yeah. Their athletics teams' nickname is Green Wave. Just being funny.