Fate of the filibuster

[Angel of Death]

Go.

[Ferguson97]

It remains, I don't think you get Feinstein and Manchin on board.

[brucejoel99]

Its death is inevitable, as soon as Republicans start obstructing major Democratic policies.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Yeah, as soon as Rs Obstructing, it will be eliminated, we don't need the Filibuster, it's purpose was to block Civil Rights legislation and block Abe Fortas as Chief Judge and Nixon got to appoint Burger

Civil Rights is here to stay

[SingingAnalyst]

It will remain as is, because one Democratic Senator (perhaps Joe Manchin) will not go along with abolishing it.

[Buffalo Mayor Young Kim]

That the COVID relief bill, with a bunch of Dem priorities stapled on, isn’t going through reconciliation makes me think it’s being teed up to be the excuse to nuke the filibuster

[7,052,770]

Mostly #1, but I went with option #2, if DC becoming a state (which is a 100% lock) is all it takes to trigger option #2.

[Duro]

Its death is inevitable, as soon as Republicans start obstructing major Democratic policies.

Agreed.

[It’s so Joever]

It will remain intact. I think it will actually be the GOP who nukes it first if that does happen.

[Never Made it to Graceland]

Yeah, as soon as Rs Obstructing, it will be eliminated, we don't need the Filibuster, it's purpose was to block Civil Rights legislation and block Abe Fortas as Chief Judge and Nixon got to appoint Burger

Civil Rights is here to stay

Exactly. There is no sane reason to allow 41 senators to block 59 senators. John C. Calhoun first used it to protect slavery.

[brucejoel99]

It will remain intact. I think it will actually be the GOP who nukes it first if that does happen.

Nah, if the GOP actually believed that abolishing the legislative filibuster was in their best long-term interests, then they would've already done so. The fact that they didn't - even though a Republican President begged them more than once to do so over the last 4 years - reflects the fact that the GOP knows fully well that the only thing which legislatively helps them is the continued existence of the filibuster because they know fully well that undoing the enactment of social-welfare benefits after they've already been implemented is exceptionally difficult, with or without a filibuster (e.g., Trump & repealing Obamacare, W. & Social Security privatization, Reagan's initial stances on Social Security & Medicare), because public opposition is just so overwhelming whenever it's tried. By contrast, a wide array of progressive proposals for expanding social benefits carry the support of a majority of Americans, yet are currently impossible to implement thanks to the combination of the Senate GOP & its ability to filibuster when in the minority. All the filibuster really does is preserve America's regressive political/economic status quo rather than actually frustrate GOP efforts to actively render our political/economic realities even more regressive than they already are.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

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[Oregon Eagle Politics]

A possibility is that it is abolished for the admission of states, then DC and or PR are admitted states, and then abolished fully.

[7,052,770]

A possibility is that it is abolished for the admission of states, then DC and or PR are admitted states, and then abolished fully.

Probably need the Marianas and USVI (both which should get representation as the morally right thing to do, not merely as part of a strategy) too to get the votes for that.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

It will remain intact. I think it will actually be the GOP who nukes it first if that does happen.

Nah, if the GOP actually believed that abolishing the legislative filibuster was in their best long-term interests, then they would've already done so. The fact that they didn't - even though a Republican President begged them more than once to do so over the last 4 years - reflects the fact that the GOP knows fully well that the only thing which legislatively helps them is the continued existence of the filibuster because they know fully well that undoing the enactment of social-welfare benefits after they've already been implemented is exceptionally difficult, with or without a filibuster (e.g., Trump & repealing Obamacare, W. & Social Security privatization, Reagan's initial stances on Social Security & Medicare), because public opposition is just so overwhelming whenever it's tried. By contrast, a wide array of progressive proposals for expanding social benefits carry the support of a majority of Americans, yet are currently impossible to implement thanks to the combination of the Senate GOP & its ability to filibuster when in the minority. All the filibuster really does is preserve America's regressive political/economic status quo rather than actually frustrate GOP efforts to actively render our political/economic realities even more regressive than they already are.

The Rs would have eliminated the filibuster if they had both Houses of Congress in 2018, but they lost the House and elimination of the filibuster would have done nothing since Pelosi blocked the 2.2 T Stimulus costing D's wave insurance seats in Congress and she negotiated 909 B anyways

The Filibuster is gonna stay and it puts pressure on D's to hold Majorities in both Houses of Congress in 2022. If D's hold a narrow Majority by winning WI and PA and losing GA, due to Runoff and Kemp is fav, then Manchin can eliminate the Filibuster, in 2023 not 2021

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Way too early to say

[MillennialModerate]

It stays.

I’d be in favor of eliminating it for statehood votes (they could rationalize it as statehood is a matter of
Taxation without representation and partisan interests are heavily involved in these votes). After that reform it to 55 being the number and you must physically fillibuster.

That’s what I want but it’s not going to happen. I thought Dems would put PR & DC statehood on the agenda right after Covid stimulous but doesn’t appear that will happen.

It’s an insult to the citizens of those two locations, it’s an insult to Dem voters because Dems are essentially forfeiting the Senste until 2032.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The statehood deal wasn't passed due to organinf resolution and it says that Filibuster can't be estinguished, statehood isn't gonna happen this term

Why are there so many topics on this filibuster and the D's had to sign on still letting Rs filibuster legislation and Sinema and Manchin already said they are against repeal of filibuster