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Catholics
 
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Protestants
 
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Orthdodox
 
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Mormons/LDS
 
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Christian Science
 
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Jehovah's Witnesses
 
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Seventh Day Adventists
 
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Moonies/Unification
 
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Branch Davidians
 
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« on: January 16, 2021, 07:44:38 PM »

Made this poll to include other groups that I didn't want to spam the board with.
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2021, 08:08:29 PM »

Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox, and Seventh Day Adventists.
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2021, 08:11:33 PM »

Interesting question. I don't really know enough to have an opinion about Christian Science, Adventists, and the Davidians.
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2021, 08:58:45 PM »

Write-in: None of the above
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2021, 10:20:05 PM »

Just realized I should have added Messianic Judaism to the list.
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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2021, 01:01:27 PM »
« Edited: January 17, 2021, 01:20:43 PM by Dr. RI, Trustbuster »

Anyone care to explain how SDAs would be Christian but Branch Davidians wouldn't be?

Also, I find the Unification Church kind of interesting in that their theology seems almost like someone took all the core ideas of Protestantism and ran as far as possible in the other direction.
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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2021, 03:36:08 PM »

Anyone care to explain how SDAs would be Christian but Branch Davidians wouldn't be?

Also, I find the Unification Church kind of interesting in that their theology seems almost like someone took all the core ideas of Protestantism and ran as far as possible in the other direction.

     Some SDAs are Trinitarian, so I gave the group as a whole the benefit of the doubt. I admit that I know little about the Branch Davidians other than David Koresh and Waco, so I am open to hearing more about them.
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2021, 05:17:29 PM »

All except Moonies and Branch Davidians.
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2021, 05:40:19 PM »

Outside of the faith healing, what makes Christian Science stray away from normal Christianity?
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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2021, 09:56:59 PM »

I voted only for Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Science, and LDS, although to be fair anyone who calls themselves Christians are Christians.
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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2021, 01:37:30 PM »

Outside of the faith healing, what makes Christian Science stray away from normal Christianity?
They are non-Trinitarian, is the most obvious example; you could also make the case that the heavy reliance on Eddy's writings is similar to the "additional scriptures" that distinguish the LDS church and Unification from mainstream Christianity.
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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2021, 09:37:25 PM »

Why should non-trinitarianism preclude one from being considered Christian?
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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2021, 10:02:10 PM »

I voted only for Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Science, and LDS, although to be fair anyone who calls themselves Christians are Christians.

You think those guys are Christians but not Catholics, Orthodoxes, or Protestants?
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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2021, 11:21:47 PM »

Anyone care to explain how SDAs would be Christian but Branch Davidians wouldn't be?

Also, I find the Unification Church kind of interesting in that their theology seems almost like someone took all the core ideas of Protestantism and ran as far as possible in the other direction.

     Some SDAs are Trinitarian, so I gave the group as a whole the benefit of the doubt. I admit that I know little about the Branch Davidians other than David Koresh and Waco, so I am open to hearing more about them.

The Davidians are a splinter from SDAs in the 30s. The Branch Davidians were actually a splinter off this splinter, called just "The Branch" hence the name.
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2021, 07:05:12 AM »

Anyone care to explain how SDAs would be Christian but Branch Davidians wouldn't be?

Also, I find the Unification Church kind of interesting in that their theology seems almost like someone took all the core ideas of Protestantism and ran as far as possible in the other direction.

     Some SDAs are Trinitarian, so I gave the group as a whole the benefit of the doubt. I admit that I know little about the Branch Davidians other than David Koresh and Waco, so I am open to hearing more about them.

The Davidians are a splinter from SDAs in the 30s. The Branch Davidians were actually a splinter off this splinter, called just "The Branch" hence the name.
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« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2021, 05:12:22 PM »

Why should non-trinitarianism preclude one from being considered Christian?
It shouldn’t. Hence 1-4 and debatably #7.
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« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2021, 05:13:55 PM »

Why should non-trinitarianism preclude one from being considered Christian?
It's not an absolute bar but it is a difference from "normal Christianity" — it it something that would seem like a fairly significant departure for the majority of Christians.
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« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2021, 05:15:24 PM »

Why should non-trinitarianism preclude one from being considered Christian?
Using the Nicene Creed as the standard would lead to that conclusion.

So for example Origen or Eusebius of Caesarea weren't Christian? Weird standard.
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« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2021, 07:58:07 PM »

Why should non-trinitarianism preclude one from being considered Christian?
Using the Nicene Creed as the standard would lead to that conclusion.

So for example Origen or Eusebius of Caesarea weren't Christian? Weird standard.
Yeah, it does seem a little arbitrary. As you know, people like Origen who predate conciliar definitions usually get a pass, except when they don't. I was under the impression that Eusebius accepted the Creed. Do you have a source that says otherwise?

You might be right. I only know that he was suspected an Arian, hence his lack of canonisation.
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« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2021, 08:35:34 PM »

It's not an absolute bar but it is a difference from "normal Christianity" — it it something that would seem like a fairly significant departure for the majority of Christians.
I don’t think so. In my experience, <1% of churchgoing Christians even know the difference between Trinidadian and Unitarian understandings of the Trinity. My sample is predominantly that of black and white Southern Protestants, though.
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« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2021, 07:25:29 PM »

Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox, and Seventh Day Adventists.

Sounds about right.
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« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2021, 11:54:04 PM »

Anyone who believes that the Christian Bible is the inerrant word of an all-knowing, all-powerful, and benevolent god (which is completely and provably false as a premise).
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« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2021, 12:40:33 AM »

Anyone who believes that the Christian Bible is the inerrant word of an all-knowing, all-powerful, and benevolent god (which is completely and provably false as a premise).
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« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2021, 03:04:13 PM »

Anyone who believes that the Christian Bible is the inerrant word of an all-knowing, all-powerful, and benevolent god (which is completely and provably false as a premise).

Whilst I would agree with you that the notion that the Bible is inerrant if provably false due to its numerous contradictions, the whole logical problem with claiming that God exists is that that statement is not falsifiable, and therefore does not reach the standard that any valid hypothesis should.
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« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2021, 10:53:11 AM »

We are talking more about big business more then we are talking about following Jesus.
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