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« on: January 29, 2021, 07:34:42 PM »



The GOP (and yes, I'm holding the party as a whole responsible until and unless it boots her) are so shameless about this sort of thing because they believe that:

1) They'll never be held accountable under the law. (This will be particularly demonstrated if Donald Trump is not convicted by the Senate. I don't think most people understand how important his Senate trial is.)

2) That their victims and opponents will never sink to the same depths they will. (And they're partially correct. If we follow the GOP on its road to hell, we'll be destroying ourselves as well.


I suspect the Republicans overestimate the capacity of the rest of the nation to remain committed to democracy while tolerating their abuse.  To paraphrase Frum, when the American public are given a choice between unlimited Republican abuse and abandoning the Constitution, they will eventually abandon the Constitution.

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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2021, 02:44:50 PM »

I am asking seriously: has anyone found any conspiracy theory Marjorie Taylor Greene DOESN'T believe?
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2021, 09:18:26 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2021, 09:29:44 AM »

Fuzzy we had “fact finding investigations” around voter fraud and they found nothing. You said you’d accept the courts as the final arbiter on whether voter fraud happened and when they ruled nothing fishy happened you just ignored it and kept saying voter fraud happened. This is no different then when you throw out accusations or talking points that get debunked and run away from the thread like nothing happened wait a couple days and post the same accusations or talking points again.

That presumes the Courts would actually hear the questions and hear witnesses.  That hasn't happened.  It should happen.  As for "debunked" allegations, the MSM lacks the credibilty to debunk anything about this past election.  They have not been objective reporters of fact; they have been activists in the tank to elect Biden at all costs.  An independent press is something we don't have now.

We've spend millions on Russiagate (which has been debunked by investigation).  We can spend money on this.  There is cause for it.  People who are actually liberal should be fine with this.


If that is the case than Trump has no one to blame but himself
He had more than enough opportunities to present compelling evidence to Judges that he Himself appointed to the courts

We should not have to spend tax payer money on a silly fact finding investigation just because trump hired and incompetent lawyer like Rudy Giuliani who could not even get "Trump Judges" to take his claims of voter fraud seriously

A couple weeks back, I went and dug through all the post-election 2020 lawsuits listed in Wikipedia. While I'm not about to read them all again, and my notes are far from detailed enough for formal publication, the results of even a casual review demolish the claims of election deniers like Fuzzy.

I went through 54 cases. The results were (with four unresolved at that time):

Lack of Standing/Dismissed as Moot/Too late/wrong jurisdiction: 15

Dropped/Voluntarily Dismissed: 11

Without Substantial Justification/Solely or primarily for delay or harassment:  1

Ruling Issued: 3
Bailey v. Antrim Cty (MI)
Judge allowed release of the plaintiff's report on voting machine security.

Trump v Biden (WI)
Ruled in favor of the respondents: Biden et al.
The district court "affirmed" the certification of Wisconsin's presidential election result

Donald J. Trump for President v. Boockvar and Cty. Bds. of Elections (PA)
The court concluded that Kathy Boockvar, Secretary of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, lacked statutory authority to prolong the deadline for proof of identification and ordered for such segregated ballots not to be counted. May be appealed to the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania.


Dismissed: 20
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"sorely wanting of relevant or reliable evidence"/ "largely based on anonymous witnesses, hearsay, and irrelevant analysis of unrelated elections"

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"no allegations of fraud or illegality"

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"The Court finds no misconduct, no fraud, and no effect on the outcome of the election."


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"no evidence produced"

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"no basis in fact or in law"

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"[p]laintiffs’ interpretation of events is incorrect and not credible"


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plaintiffs did "not offer any affidavits or specific eyewitness evidence to substantiate their assertions” “mere speculation”/ “plaintiffs' interpretation of events is incorrect and not credible"

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"Plaintiff's allegations are largely based on declarations and newspaper articles. The Court would necessarily need to disregard those declarations as inadmissible hearsay. The Court finds that Plaintiff has offered no evidence sufficient to find any error…. that would warrant granting the relief sought here."

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"petitioners failed to make a prima facie showing through substantial evidence that they were entitled to a preliminary injunction preventing the Secretary of State from implementing AB 4. Petitioners did not allege any burden that the challenged provisions of AB 4 impose on an identifiable group's right to vote"

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"Contestants did not prove under any standard of proof that any illegal votes were cast and counted, or legal votes were not counted at all, for any other improper or illegal reason, nor in an amount equal to or greater than 33,596, or otherwise in an amount sufficient to raise reasonable doubt as to the outcome of the election"

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"unhinged from the underlying right being asserted"

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"voters should not be disenfranchised based on advisory portions of the Election Code"


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"claims fail as a matter of law and fact"/"lost on the merits"
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2021, 03:42:05 PM »

Now...can we get back on topic as to why MTG needs to go?

I've been thinking about this quite a bit. MGT is a mini-Trump already. She's demonstrating all the same characteristics he did in 2015 and both before and after:

*repeatedly spouting nonsense/baseless conspiracy theories that a large part of the Republican base really likes

*open disregard for  law and norms, verging on sedition

*a focus on personal entitlement and free publicly

*incapable of and uninterested in doing the job she was elected to do


In short, aggressive stupidity in service to a near-constant assault on reality.  This should all sound very familiar to anyone who has been conscious the last four plus years.

MGT should be treated the way Donald Trump should have been treated, the way he mostly has been treated since his failed coup (and which will hopefully continue). She should be largely ignored, silenced when she makes threats, and face the full weight of the law when she breaks it. Anything else just serves to empower her. (Parodying her on SNL, just like endlessly giving her free publicly by covering her aggressive stupidity, is almost-certainly the wrong way to go.)
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2021, 08:01:04 AM »



According to MTG, the only way for you to be a strong Republican is to throw a fit and kick and scream when you lose instead of being graceful or something


This calls for a permanent Twitter ban.  She’s openly saying Republicans should fight election defeats, and try to overturn election results.

She’s endorsing voter fraud and so is anyone who still supports her.

She's endorsing violent revolution (as long as it's by white supremacists). And in a week or so, the Senate will do the same, lighting the fuse on the destructive death of the United States. (It may burn for a decade or more, or it may not take 4 years. But once the Senate acquits Donald Trump, the violent collapse of the United States becomes inevitable.)
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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2021, 06:30:11 PM »

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It appears IndyRep may have gotten his wish, because the Democratic Leadership is really hammering on the Q thing.

Is this really going to stick though? The GOP has called every Democrat that walked for the past decade  a socialist, and it doesn't really move the needle much. I'm not sure calling every Republican that walks QAnon is going to move the needle much either

Republicans have nothing to back up calling Democrats socialists, so it isn't effective. The public has had an opportunity to do see that many Republicans are either connected to Q-Anon or unwilling to condemn it.

The socialist label has stuck much better since Democrats actually began calling themselves socialists.

These ads don't just happen in a vacuum.  The GOP tests them and knows they're effective.  And if you talk to real voters you will see that.

This is objectively not true lol. Firstly, when did Democrats "start" calling themselves socialists? Pretty sure Henry A. Wallace called himself a socialist and FDR still won in a landslide since 1940. Secondly, plenty of other candidates, like McGovern or even Dukakis, have been tarred as socialists for decades now and those attacks seem to have worked, and they sure worked better than they did on Biden.


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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2021, 06:36:18 PM »

Coach Tuberville explains that he can't comment on MGT's antics  because the weather has kept him from following the news.
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2021, 10:45:52 PM »

Apparently crazy lady was playing hide the weenie with several men including a porn star, "family values".  Cheesy

That was reported by the Daily Mail.  Unless it's confirmed by a reputable source I'm not giving it much credence.

On the contrary. The Daily Mail is one of the few places where giving Rep. Greene coverage is appropriate. It operates on much the same level she does. This is very much the sort of coverage reality TV actor (and serial adulterer) Donald Trump should have gotten.

Embattled QAnon congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene 'openly cheated' on her husband of 25 years with a polyamorous tantric sex guru and then moved on to another affair with the manager at her gym
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Craig Ivey, the tantric sex practitioner, said: 'I will not respond to anything about this,' while the other man, Justin Tway, said: 'I have no interest in talking about anything to do with that woman. Everything with her comes to no good.'
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In response to DailyMail.com's request for comment, Taylor Greene called the story ‘ridiculous tabloid garbage spread by an avowed Communist,’ and ‘another attempt to smear my name because I’m the biggest threat to the Democrats’ Socialist agenda.’

Her attorney L. Lin Wood, has previously said that an article about the allegations published by the New Yorker magazine was 'intended to smear her with false accusations, half-truths, misrepresentations, out-of-context statements, and agenda driven lies.'

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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2021, 11:01:21 PM »

the unstated context of this whole episode: National Guard members from Guam, and the rest of the US, are stationed in DC, seemingly indefinitely and with nothing to do.

Si vis pacem, para bellum.

The GQP has already shown its hand. I am willing to trust the Biden administration's response.
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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2021, 01:48:01 PM »

Somebody informed Karen Trailer Greene that somebody was holding a press conference outside the Capitol.  That means… cameras!!!  I’m sure she couldn’t get there fast enough.







In surely related news, her chief of staff announced his resignation hours later.  (Why does a do-nothing grifter with no committee assignments need a chief of staff to begin with?)

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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2021, 01:27:14 PM »



I have to throw in the towel here. I mean, I get that's she's stupid and ignorant. And I know that I keep making the mistake of giving Republicans too much credit. But I just can't bring myself to believe that she's this stupid. The stupidity just has to be performative.
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2021, 02:32:13 PM »

Marjorie Taylor-Greene rants against an unspecified 'desert fish' apparently given $25 Million in the infrastructure bill in latest insane outburst.

https://www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-rants-25m-desert-fish-spending-bill-tirade-1633467

Likely the desert pupfish.

(For the record, $25 million is 7 cents per American. And for comparison, $1 billion is $3.04 per American.)
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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2022, 11:16:10 PM »

I am fully convinced that she genuinely has mental problems and needs psychiatric help. Sane people do not act like this.

Untreated schizophrenia masquerading as staunch conservatism. That's the Trump era GOP in a nutshell.

There are undoubtedly some distinctions among the crazy cohort.  This is how I currently size them up:

Excessively stupid - Gohmert
True MAGA fanatic - Boebert
Cynical, pretend MAGA believer - Cawthorn, Gaetz
Genuinely insane - Greene, Gosar

With Boebert, it's hard to tell where the the right-wing fanaticism ends and the grifting begins. I think she's doing both, but I don't know if she sees any difference between the two.

Gohmert is always a strange one for me. I just can't accept that any human being is as stupid as he acts. So I always presume the stupidity is performative, a demonstration of power. I guess it's possible that it is both with him as well. I.e. he's pretty stupid to begin with, so when he tries to come up with something that will be stupidly outrageous, he misses the mark and comes off as grossly ignorant and/or insane.
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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2022, 06:20:55 PM »



Also today:
Extreme weather is tormenting every U.S. region, and it’s far from over

Republicans are too stupid to survive. The next century is going to largely be about finding out how much of the human race they can kill off as they wipe themselves out.
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