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« on: January 15, 2021, 04:25:41 PM »
« edited: February 02, 2021, 02:35:40 PM by EastwoodS »

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/10/trump-2024-campaign-456692
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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2021, 04:38:22 PM »

He will be 78 by 2024 (like Biden, I know), but he will be very old to run another time, also let's see if he isn't in jail or something, as far as I know, he has serious demands when he no longer has presidential privileges
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2021, 05:31:25 PM »

Everyone knows that the Capitol Riots will be the #1 top issue in 2024, so Trump is obviously DOA. it's not like he has a 75% approval among Republicans or anything...
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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2021, 07:23:37 PM »

Everyone knows that the Capitol Riots will be the #1 top issue in 2024, so Trump is obviously DOA. it's not like he has a 75% approval among Republicans or anything...

I understand that you're being sarcastic, but I do think that in the minds of the vast majority of voters, the Capitol attack will be associated with Trump more than anything else from his term, especially since he's lost his platform both politically and on social media to distract from it and redirect attention. This is the note he's gone out on and if he tries to make a comeback, this will be the most recent Trump-related thing people remember, especially since we're going to get a never-ending drip-drip-drip story with all the lawsuits and investigations.
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2021, 07:25:59 PM »

Everyone knows that the Capitol Riots will be the #1 top issue in 2024, so Trump is obviously DOA. it's not like he has a 75% approval among Republicans or anything...

I understand that you're being sarcastic, but I do think that in the minds of the vast majority of voters, the Capitol attack will be associated with Trump more than anything else from his term, especially since he's lost his platform both politically and on social media to distract from it and redirect attention. This is the note he's gone out on and if he tries to make a comeback, this will be the most recent Trump-related thing people remember, especially since we're going to get a never-ending drip-drip-drip story with all the lawsuits and investigations.

His approval among Republicans has gone down to 60% just recently as well.
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2021, 07:27:13 PM »

Everyone knows that the Capitol Riots will be the #1 top issue in 2024, so Trump is obviously DOA. it's not like he has a 75% approval among Republicans or anything...

I understand that you're being sarcastic, but I do think that in the minds of the vast majority of voters, the Capitol attack will be associated with Trump more than anything else from his term, especially since he's lost his platform both politically and on social media to distract from it and redirect attention. This is the note he's gone out on and if he tries to make a comeback, this will be the most recent Trump-related thing people remember, especially since we're going to get a never-ending drip-drip-drip story with all the lawsuits and investigations.

His approval among Republicans has gone down to 60% just recently as well.

That's still way too good though, and that's still enough to show up and give him a win in the primaries again.
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2021, 07:52:36 PM »

Everyone knows that the Capitol Riots will be the #1 top issue in 2024, so Trump is obviously DOA. it's not like he has a 75% approval among Republicans or anything...

I understand that you're being sarcastic, but I do think that in the minds of the vast majority of voters, the Capitol attack will be associated with Trump more than anything else from his term, especially since he's lost his platform both politically and on social media to distract from it and redirect attention. This is the note he's gone out on and if he tries to make a comeback, this will be the most recent Trump-related thing people remember, especially since we're going to get a never-ending drip-drip-drip story with all the lawsuits and investigations.

His approval among Republicans has gone down to 60% just recently as well.

That's still way too good though, and that's still enough to show up and give him a win in the primaries again.

Not necessarily. Didn’t some polls even before this show more Republicans than not preferred a different nominee next time?
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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2021, 07:53:08 PM »

Everyone knows that the Capitol Riots will be the #1 top issue in 2024, so Trump is obviously DOA. it's not like he has a 75% approval among Republicans or anything...

I understand that you're being sarcastic, but I do think that in the minds of the vast majority of voters, the Capitol attack will be associated with Trump more than anything else from his term, especially since he's lost his platform both politically and on social media to distract from it and redirect attention. This is the note he's gone out on and if he tries to make a comeback, this will be the most recent Trump-related thing people remember, especially since we're going to get a never-ending drip-drip-drip story with all the lawsuits and investigations.

His approval among Republicans has gone down to 60% just recently as well.

That's still way too good though, and that's still enough to show up and give him a win in the primaries again.

Not necessarily. Didn’t some polls even before this show more Republicans than not preferred a different nominee next time?

If you still trust polls, I guess.
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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2021, 09:52:07 PM »

Everyone knows that the Capitol Riots will be the #1 top issue in 2024, so Trump is obviously DOA. it's not like he has a 75% approval among Republicans or anything...

I understand that you're being sarcastic, but I do think that in the minds of the vast majority of voters, the Capitol attack will be associated with Trump more than anything else from his term, especially since he's lost his platform both politically and on social media to distract from it and redirect attention. This is the note he's gone out on and if he tries to make a comeback, this will be the most recent Trump-related thing people remember, especially since we're going to get a never-ending drip-drip-drip story with all the lawsuits and investigations.

His approval among Republicans has gone down to 60% just recently as well.

That's still way too good though, and that's still enough to show up and give him a win in the primaries again.

Not necessarily. Didn’t some polls even before this show more Republicans than not preferred a different nominee next time?

I think it was a Pew Research Poll that showed Trump had a 75% approval rating among Republican and Republican lean voters but only 42% said they would vote for him in a GOP primary.
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« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2021, 11:08:43 PM »

Everyone knows that the Capitol Riots will be the #1 top issue in 2024, so Trump is obviously DOA. it's not like he has a 75% approval among Republicans or anything...

I understand that you're being sarcastic, but I do think that in the minds of the vast majority of voters, the Capitol attack will be associated with Trump more than anything else from his term, especially since he's lost his platform both politically and on social media to distract from it and redirect attention. This is the note he's gone out on and if he tries to make a comeback, this will be the most recent Trump-related thing people remember, especially since we're going to get a never-ending drip-drip-drip story with all the lawsuits and investigations.

His approval among Republicans has gone down to 60% just recently as well.

That's still way too good though, and that's still enough to show up and give him a win in the primaries again.

Not necessarily. Didn’t some polls even before this show more Republicans than not preferred a different nominee next time?

I think it was a Pew Research Poll that showed Trump had a 75% approval rating among Republican and Republican lean voters but only 42% said they would vote for him in a GOP primary.
That's about the same % he got in 2016, even with the Capitol Riots fresh in everyone's minds.
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« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2021, 11:11:42 PM »

Everyone knows that the Capitol Riots will be the #1 top issue in 2024, so Trump is obviously DOA. it's not like he has a 75% approval among Republicans or anything...

I understand that you're being sarcastic, but I do think that in the minds of the vast majority of voters, the Capitol attack will be associated with Trump more than anything else from his term, especially since he's lost his platform both politically and on social media to distract from it and redirect attention. This is the note he's gone out on and if he tries to make a comeback, this will be the most recent Trump-related thing people remember, especially since we're going to get a never-ending drip-drip-drip story with all the lawsuits and investigations.

His approval among Republicans has gone down to 60% just recently as well.

That's still way too good though, and that's still enough to show up and give him a win in the primaries again.

Not necessarily. Didn’t some polls even before this show more Republicans than not preferred a different nominee next time?

I think it was a Pew Research Poll that showed Trump had a 75% approval rating among Republican and Republican lean voters but only 42% said they would vote for him in a GOP primary.

I'd say that's still enough to be a plurality assuming the primary field isn't too large.

If he runs then I don't see any other populist republicans running.
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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2021, 11:19:51 PM »

Interesting.
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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2021, 11:23:08 PM »

Everyone knows that the Capitol Riots will be the #1 top issue in 2024, so Trump is obviously DOA. it's not like he has a 75% approval among Republicans or anything...

It did hurt him politically, plus there is some chance he will be disqualified. He was looking much better January 4th.
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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2021, 07:21:09 PM »

A thought dawned on me that the decline in Trump's approval, even if still way better than he deserves, might be out of embarrassment by supporters of his now seeing what kind of people they are forced to be associated with after the whole Capitol siege. I know that I would feel ashamed and remorseful if I was a Trump supporter and saw a bunch of paunchy bearded weirdos  championing white supremacist, antisemitic, neo-Confederate, conspiracy theory based bulls*** as they violently defaced a symbol of our democracy and maimed or killed members of law enforcement. I would feel as if "the libs" were proven right all along. Then again, the ability to feel shame is why I am not, and never will be, a Trump supporter. But the fact that there is a decline at all in Trump's approvals does at least suggest that some Republicans are able to feel humiliation, certainly not many though. But it's something.

It's still damning that it took something like as extreme as this for that self-reflection to possibly occur though. I am not going to start patting these folks on the back and declaring them as heroes. They're still culpable too in some ways for this culmination of Trump's presidency.
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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2021, 07:56:51 PM »

The capital storming definitely hurt his chances, especially in a GE, but he would likely still be a strong frontrunner in a 2024 GOP primary if he chose to run (assuming he is even eligible).
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