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Question: Will Democrats get rid of the filibuster for statehood? do they have the votes necessary?
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« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2021, 08:14:16 PM »

No, but Democrats are going to be very creative with how they use reconciliation.
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« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2021, 12:54:15 PM »

Chuck Schumer is not stupid.  Do you honestly think the Democrats would eliminate the filibuster knowing full well that it will come back to bite them the next time they are in the minority?
If Democrats lose the senate in 2022, they should re-instate the filibuster in the lame duck.

So you are not in favor of fairness?  You support one set of rules for the Democrats when they are in control and another set of rules for the Republicans when they are in control?
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« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2021, 12:56:44 PM »

Chuck Schumer is not stupid.  Do you honestly think the Democrats would eliminate the filibuster knowing full well that it will come back to bite them the next time they are in the minority?
If Democrats lose the senate in 2022, they should re-instate the filibuster in the lame duck.

So you are not in favor of fairness?  You support one set of rules for the Democrats when they are in control and another set of rules for the Republicans when they are in control?

Mcconnell blocked Merrick Garland when it was Obama's turn to have pick Scalias replacement, the D's are gonna eliminate the Filibuster

Then got Kennedy to retire and Trump got 3 Judges
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« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2021, 01:23:58 PM »

Chuck Schumer is not stupid.  Do you honestly think the Democrats would eliminate the filibuster knowing full well that it will come back to bite them the next time they are in the minority?
If Democrats lose the senate in 2022, they should re-instate the filibuster in the lame duck.

So you are not in favor of fairness?  You support one set of rules for the Democrats when they are in control and another set of rules for the Republicans when they are in control?

It's a moot point, anyway, because the genie's out of the bottle at that point; the Republicans would just get rid of it immediately.
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« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2021, 01:34:36 PM »

Chuck Schumer is not stupid.  Do you honestly think the Democrats would eliminate the filibuster knowing full well that it will come back to bite them the next time they are in the minority?
If Democrats lose the senate in 2022, they should re-instate the filibuster in the lame duck.

So you are not in favor of fairness?  You support one set of rules for the Democrats when they are in control and another set of rules for the Republicans when they are in control?
look at what Republicans did in the lame duck when Democrats flipped the Governorship in states like North Carolina or Wisconsin.
https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/wisconsin-supreme-court-upholds-most-lame-duck-laws-curbing-powers-of-tony-evers-josh-kaul/article_b2e62e2b-d9c8-5b06-9940-d112907006a8.html
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« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2021, 04:45:53 PM »

Now, that the Rs are in the Minority again since 2010, now they want to make use of the Fillibuster again, after they blocked Obama's agenda, it never fails
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« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2021, 10:20:03 PM »

Chuck Schumer is not stupid.  Do you honestly think the Democrats would eliminate the filibuster knowing full well that it will come back to bite them the next time they are in the minority?

...Yes? Pretty obvious they’re also betting on long-term Senate control with DC/PR.

They could very easily just change the Senate rules to remove filibusters on an issue by issue basis (e.g. for statehood votes), technically leaving it intact but effectively neutering it.

^This is pretty much what’s going to happen.
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« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2021, 10:33:37 PM »

Chuck Schumer is not stupid.  Do you honestly think the Democrats would eliminate the filibuster knowing full well that it will come back to bite them the next time they are in the minority?

...Yes? Pretty obvious they’re also betting on long-term Senate control with DC/PR.

They could very easily just change the Senate rules to remove filibusters on an issue by issue basis (e.g. for statehood votes), technically leaving it intact but effectively neutering it.

^This is pretty much what’s going to happen.
Lol Manchin won’t go for it.
The filibuster as it is now is safe, trust me.
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« Reply #33 on: January 14, 2021, 10:35:45 PM »

Lol Manchin won’t go for it.
The filibuster as it is now is safe, trust me.

Please don’t insult my intelligence like that.
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« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2021, 10:43:24 PM »

Chuck Schumer is not stupid.  Do you honestly think the Democrats would eliminate the filibuster knowing full well that it will come back to bite them the next time they are in the minority?

...Yes? Pretty obvious they’re also betting on long-term Senate control with DC/PR.

They could very easily just change the Senate rules to remove filibusters on an issue by issue basis (e.g. for statehood votes), technically leaving it intact but effectively neutering it.

^This is pretty much what’s going to happen.
Lol Manchin won’t go for it.
The filibuster as it is now is safe, trust me.

Sure, Joe “I’m open to supporting Trump” Manchin won’t change his position on the filibuster.  Smiley
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« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2021, 11:08:59 PM »

When I started this poll, I was specifically only asking about statehood, lol.
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« Reply #36 on: January 15, 2021, 12:32:37 AM »

When I started this poll, I was specifically only asking about statehood, lol.

Do Democrats have the votes or better yet have they consolidated enough support to get their moderate wing to end the filibuster?

Don't really see how this references statehood
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« Reply #37 on: January 15, 2021, 12:35:11 AM »

When I started this poll, I was specifically only asking about statehood, lol.

Do Democrats have the votes or better yet have they consolidated enough support to get their moderate wing to end the filibuster?

Don't really see how this references statehood
I changed the poll, it was my fault for not wording it better
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« Reply #38 on: January 15, 2021, 01:27:48 AM »

Chuck Schumer is not stupid.  Do you honestly think the Democrats would eliminate the filibuster knowing full well that it will come back to bite them the next time they are in the minority?

...Yes? Pretty obvious they’re also betting on long-term Senate control with DC/PR.

They could very easily just change the Senate rules to remove filibusters on an issue by issue basis (e.g. for statehood votes), technically leaving it intact but effectively neutering it.

^This is pretty much what’s going to happen.
Lol Manchin won’t go for it.
The filibuster as it is now is safe, trust me.

Why do you keep saying this, he just said that he is open to adding more states, stop being a naysayer

The only way is to have a vote on it
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