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January 21, 2021, 07:23:05 AM

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Catalyst138
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« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2021, 07:58:00 PM »

President Andrew Jackson and his supporters definitely fit this description of “liberal racists.” I feel like Jackson would agree with the modern progressive left on a decent amount of issues.
I could see Jackson and his supporters supporting debt cancellation, breaking up banks, and Glass-Steagall, but I don’t think the modern progressive left would care for Indian Removal or ignoring a SCOTUS ruling to achieve it.

Well yeah, I said “a decent amount” not “literally every issue.”
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« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2021, 09:28:02 PM »

I can't see it. They adhered to the Jeffersonian vision of themselves as aristocrats in the Southern caste system till the very end. IIRC quite a few slaveowners were Whigs, and the core support for Jacksonian populism came from the unwashed Southern masses.
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« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2021, 09:48:25 PM »

The segregationists who represented Southern elites (who were often descendents of slaveowners) were the first to become Republicans, while those who represented poor whites tended to stay Democrats well into the 1980s. Thurmondism is the descendent of the slaveowner ideology, not Wallaceism.
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« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2021, 05:42:35 PM »

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What about “Central Banking” is “liberal”?  Just curious.

Well it's internationalist. If you read books like "Tragedy and Hope" by Quigley or "Emerging Republican Majority" by Phillips - the upper class gradually became more internationalist in outlook and often defected. Think of the Cambridge Five and what not.
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