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Alben Barkley
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« on: January 06, 2021, 06:07:10 PM »

Let’s say the presidential election was re-done (as some Trump supporters have even called for) tomorrow, right after Dems won the Senate and terrorist Trump supporters took over the Capitol.

How much of a bloodbath would it be for Trump?

Discuss with maps.
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2021, 06:25:12 PM »

Conservatively, I'd say 55-44 for Biden. Most of the True Believers would still be behind Trump, but the 20% of his voters who don't think the election was rigged would start to split off.
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2021, 06:27:48 PM »

Probably the biggest suburban swing to the left we've seen in American history.

The 413 map + maybe Alaska and South Carolina. Honestly I don't even know if I would vote in this election.
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2021, 09:40:46 PM »

D's would win NC and FL and win NC and ME Senate like they were supposed to win
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2021, 10:23:22 PM »

It would still be the same map.
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2021, 10:24:13 PM »

It would probably swing enough for Biden to win North Carolina, but honestly I think that would be it, as sad as that is.
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2021, 11:53:53 PM »

North Carolina and Texas definitely go for Biden. Some chance of Ohio and ME-2 but that's about it.
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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2021, 01:45:08 AM »

Probably 3-4 point swing to Biden. NC flips, but that’s probably it. FL is close but swings less than the national vote.
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2021, 04:25:26 AM »

Based on the Warnock race, he outperformed Biden by 1.3 while rhe GOP fell back 0.1. So enough to flip NC.
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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2021, 04:50:43 AM »

Hot take : nothing change (Biden wins the PV by 4 or 5 points and wins the same states he carried in November)

I don't know why it's so hard for many people on this forum to understand that the US electorate is very polarised and that basically no one is going to win the PV by +7 points.
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2021, 06:15:01 AM »

Nothing changes, the people would repolarize extremely easily. There would be a swing to Biden, but not a huge one. Biden wins by something like 51.9-46.2 and NC would be extremely close (could go Biden or could go Trump). Other than that everything remains the same.
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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2021, 08:57:02 AM »

Almost as bad as Goldwater 1964.
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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2021, 10:50:23 AM »

Hot take : nothing change (Biden wins the PV by 4 or 5 points and wins the same states he carried in November)

I don't know why it's so hard for many people on this forum to understand that the US electorate is very polarised and that basically no one is going to win the PV by +7 points.
Normally I would agree with you. But even strong Trump Republican supporters in congress turned on him yesterday

I think it flips NC and FL and makes TX really close.
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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2021, 11:30:24 AM »

Considering 24% of Republicans think Trump should be removed from office, it would be a landslide, no question
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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2021, 11:39:40 AM »

Considering 24% of Republicans think Trump should be removed from office, it would be a landslide, no question
Source? That mean almost 75% of the country
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« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2021, 11:44:13 AM »

Considering 24% of Republicans think Trump should be removed from office, it would be a landslide, no question
Source? That mean almost 75% of the country



Only 51% total, but even the Democrats saying he shouldn’t be removed wouldn’t vote for him
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« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2021, 03:58:47 PM »

Republicans wouldn't be turning on Trump if he was still up for election. His poll numbers were very stable, so this would be the actual result if undecideds broke against Trump (it appears that undecideds broke for him). Technically there would have been even more mail in voting if the election were tomorrow so the effect would be even less, but let's presume everyone votes on one day. So it's the 321 EV map, NC goes for Biden while FL is Titanium Tilt R. This is basically the same result as if the election had been held at Trump's lowest point. Right after he had been hospitalized in Walter Reed from his superspreader, after his disastrous first debate and tax return leak, but before his ok second debate performance.
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« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2021, 04:01:22 PM »

Pad Biden's MOV by about 1% and flip FL and NC.
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« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2021, 05:13:17 PM »


If Biden won by 5.45% on a uniform swing NC wouldn't flip and FL would vote for Trump by at least 2 points. Or do you mean Biden's share of the vote is 1% higher?
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« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2021, 05:16:39 PM »

Probably the biggest suburban swing to the left we've seen in American history.

The 413 map + maybe Alaska and South Carolina. Honestly I don't even know if I would vote in this election.
*recent American history. 1932 or even 1976 would be bigger by a long shot.
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« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2021, 05:20:48 PM »

Based on the Warnock race, he outperformed Biden by 1.3 while rhe GOP fell back 0.1. So enough to flip NC.
All votes in the Warnock race were cast before the US capitol was invaded by terrorists. I imagine that would have some effect.
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« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2021, 05:21:33 PM »

North Carolina and Florida flip. Biden wins PV by 8%.
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