Trump 2nd Impeachment News/Talk Megathread

[Badger]

Anyone know when the House will send the articles to the Senate? Do they want to wait a few days to let Biden install his cabinet? I think that's defensible, but they can't wait too long because it will start to look petty.

Rumor is tomorrow or Friday.

They could have done this to try to prevent Barrett from being confirmed, but instead might time it to prevent Biden's cabinet from being confirmed? Amazing.

If RBG died in late December or early January it could have been stopped, but McConnell had so much time to fill the seat that there was no way he could be stopped.

Don't confuse him with facts. It's ALWAYS the Democrats' fault in jfern world.

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Anyone know when the House will send the articles to the Senate? Do they want to wait a few days to let Biden install his cabinet? I think that's defensible, but they can't wait too long because it will start to look petty.

Rumor is tomorrow or Friday.

They could have done this to try to prevent Barrett from being confirmed, but instead might time it to prevent Biden's cabinet from being confirmed? Amazing.

If RBG died in late December or early January it could have been stopped, but McConnell had so much time to fill the seat that there was no way he could be stopped.

Don't confuse him with facts. It's ALWAYS the Democrats' fault in jfern world.

That's not a fact. If the House impeached Trump repeatedly, the Senate wouldn't be able to do anything. But instead they decide to sent impeachments to the Senate right before the Iowa caucus and when Trump is no longer President.

[Hammy]

Anyone know when the House will send the articles to the Senate? Do they want to wait a few days to let Biden install his cabinet? I think that's defensible, but they can't wait too long because it will start to look petty.

Rumor is tomorrow or Friday.

They could have done this to try to prevent Barrett from being confirmed, but instead might time it to prevent Biden's cabinet from being confirmed? Amazing.

If RBG died in late December or early January it could have been stopped, but McConnell had so much time to fill the seat that there was no way he could be stopped.

Don't confuse him with facts. It's ALWAYS the Democrats' fault in jfern world.

That's not a fact. If the House impeached Trump repeatedly, the Senate wouldn't be able to do anything. But instead they decide to sent impeachments to the Senate right before the Iowa caucus and when Trump is no longer President.

That would be an excellent way for the Dems to not only lose both houses of Congress but also the presidency, because of how this would be framed during a pandemic.

[Sestak]

Anyone know when the House will send the articles to the Senate? Do they want to wait a few days to let Biden install his cabinet? I think that's defensible, but they can't wait too long because it will start to look petty.

Rumor is tomorrow or Friday.

They could have done this to try to prevent Barrett from being confirmed, but instead might time it to prevent Biden's cabinet from being confirmed? Amazing.

If RBG died in late December or early January it could have been stopped, but McConnell had so much time to fill the seat that there was no way he could be stopped.

Don't confuse him with facts. It's ALWAYS the Democrats' fault in jfern world.

That's not a fact. If the House impeached Trump repeatedly, the Senate wouldn't be able to do anything. But instead they decide to sent impeachments to the Senate right before the Iowa caucus and when Trump is no longer President.

Is it constitutionally mandated that impeachment trials take precedence over all other business in the Senate? Because I think they would have simply nuclear'd through a rule change that allows the majority leader to bring up whatever nominations they want ahead of impeachment trials on the schedule. There are very numerous reasons this wouldn't work, and you know that.

If you want to hit on the House for wasting the Senate's time with an impeachment trial of a president out of office, that's one thing; this particular hypothetical is ridiculous and you know it.

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Anyone know when the House will send the articles to the Senate? Do they want to wait a few days to let Biden install his cabinet? I think that's defensible, but they can't wait too long because it will start to look petty.

Rumor is tomorrow or Friday.

They could have done this to try to prevent Barrett from being confirmed, but instead might time it to prevent Biden's cabinet from being confirmed? Amazing.

If RBG died in late December or early January it could have been stopped, but McConnell had so much time to fill the seat that there was no way he could be stopped.

Don't confuse him with facts. It's ALWAYS the Democrats' fault in jfern world.

That's not a fact. If the House impeached Trump repeatedly, the Senate wouldn't be able to do anything. But instead they decide to sent impeachments to the Senate right before the Iowa caucus and when Trump is no longer President.

Is it constitutionally mandated that impeachment trials take precedence over all other business in the Senate? Because I think they would have simply nuclear'd through a rule change that allows the majority leader to bring up whatever nominations they want ahead of impeachment trials on the schedule. There are very numerous reasons this wouldn't work, and you know that.

If you want to hit on the House for wasting the Senate's time with an impeachment trial of a president out of office, that's one thing; this particular hypothetical is ridiculous and you know it.

Well regardless, it's a joke to have their two trials shortly before the Iowa caucus and once Trump has already left office.

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

Anyone know when the House will send the articles to the Senate?

Tweet from Fri., Jan. 15th

https://mobile.twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1350162531235590145

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

They don't have the votes to convict, the D's are only gonna convict Trump to get him to lose his Govt pension.  Or embarrass Trump as R leaders, not I assume, he will get acquitted

[Kamala-Tim 2024]

Anyone know when the House will send the articles to the Senate? Do they want to wait a few days to let Biden install his cabinet? I think that's defensible, but they can't wait too long because it will start to look petty.

Rumor is tomorrow or Friday.

They could have done this to try to prevent Barrett from being confirmed, but instead might time it to prevent Biden's cabinet from being confirmed? Amazing.

If RBG died in late December or early January it could have been stopped, but McConnell had so much time to fill the seat that there was no way he could be stopped.

Don't confuse him with facts. It's ALWAYS the Democrats' fault in jfern world.

That's not a fact. If the House impeached Trump repeatedly, the Senate wouldn't be able to do anything. But instead they decide to sent impeachments to the Senate right before the Iowa caucus and when Trump is no longer President.

Is it constitutionally mandated that impeachment trials take precedence over all other business in the Senate? Because I think they would have simply nuclear'd through a rule change that allows the majority leader to bring up whatever nominations they want ahead of impeachment trials on the schedule. There are very numerous reasons this wouldn't work, and you know that.

If you want to hit on the House for wasting the Senate's time with an impeachment trial of a president out of office, that's one thing; this particular hypothetical is ridiculous and you know it.

Well regardless, it's a joke to have their two trials shortly before the Iowa caucus and once Trump has already left office.

What a joke to *checks notes* have trials shortly after impeachment.

[Kamala-Tim 2024]

Butch Bowers will represent Trump at his trial.

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

Butch Bowers will represent Trump at his trial.

(NOT the character from It).

[President Johnson]

Most beautiful word in this tweet is "minority".

https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1352379207230304265

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

[Progressive Pessimist]

Most beautiful word in this tweet is "minority".

https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1352379207230304265

That's pretty generous. They seem to have no case. All but maybe a few hours of those two weeks will probably even be used for preparation, the rest will be the lawyers just d***ing around. It sounds like a good deal for them though.

[Badger]

Most beautiful word in this tweet is "minority".

https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1352379207230304265

Because everything and anything McConnell does has to be properly viewed in the most coldly cynical partisan light, I question what his motives are. Yes, it up stenciling gives the Trump team more time to prepare, but I seriously suggest he's looking to eat up as much of Biden's first hundred days as possible to blunt momentum for his legislative agenda. Once impeachments done then you have a bunch of confirmation hearings and then, maybe he's hoping that most Republican and conservative voters will be over the honeymoon phase and willing to support the GOP Congressional caucus going full-on obstructionist.

I mean seriously, we all know that's exactly the type of political calculation that pumps through Mitch's veins rather than actual blood through a heart.

[brucejoel99]

Most beautiful word in this tweet is "minority".

https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1352379207230304265

Because everything and anything McConnell does has to be properly viewed in the most coldly cynical partisan light, I question what his motives are. Yes, it up stenciling gives the Trump team more time to prepare, but I seriously suggest he's looking to eat up as much of Biden's first hundred days as possible to blunt momentum for his legislative agenda. Once impeachments done then you have a bunch of confirmation hearings and then, maybe he's hoping that most Republican and conservative voters will be over the honeymoon phase and willing to support the GOP Congressional caucus going full-on obstructionist.

I mean seriously, we all know that's exactly the type of political calculation that pumps through Mitch's veins rather than actual blood through a heart.

Delaying the trial 2-3 weeks into February means confirmations happen before the trial.

[Badger]

Most beautiful word in this tweet is "minority".

https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1352379207230304265

Because everything and anything McConnell does has to be properly viewed in the most coldly cynical partisan light, I question what his motives are. Yes, it up stenciling gives the Trump team more time to prepare, but I seriously suggest he's looking to eat up as much of Biden's first hundred days as possible to blunt momentum for his legislative agenda. Once impeachments done then you have a bunch of confirmation hearings and then, maybe he's hoping that most Republican and conservative voters will be over the honeymoon phase and willing to support the GOP Congressional caucus going full-on obstructionist.

I mean seriously, we all know that's exactly the type of political calculation that pumps through Mitch's veins rather than actual blood through a heart.

Delaying the trial 2-3 weeks into February means confirmations happen before the trial.

Good point.

OK, so what IS Mitch's game then?

[brucejoel99]

Most beautiful word in this tweet is "minority".

https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1352379207230304265

Because everything and anything McConnell does has to be properly viewed in the most coldly cynical partisan light, I question what his motives are. Yes, it up stenciling gives the Trump team more time to prepare, but I seriously suggest he's looking to eat up as much of Biden's first hundred days as possible to blunt momentum for his legislative agenda. Once impeachments done then you have a bunch of confirmation hearings and then, maybe he's hoping that most Republican and conservative voters will be over the honeymoon phase and willing to support the GOP Congressional caucus going full-on obstructionist.

I mean seriously, we all know that's exactly the type of political calculation that pumps through Mitch's veins rather than actual blood through a heart.

Delaying the trial 2-3 weeks into February means confirmations happen before the trial.

Good point.

OK, so what IS Mitch's game then?

Probably wanting more time to work on convincing enough of his side to convict or abstain. He'll do everything to get away with convicting if he can. He's done with Trump & doesn't want a chance of him coming back in 2024.

[Sic Semper Fascistis]

Most beautiful word in this tweet is "minority".

https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1352379207230304265

Because everything and anything McConnell does has to be properly viewed in the most coldly cynical partisan light, I question what his motives are. Yes, it up stenciling gives the Trump team more time to prepare, but I seriously suggest he's looking to eat up as much of Biden's first hundred days as possible to blunt momentum for his legislative agenda. Once impeachments done then you have a bunch of confirmation hearings and then, maybe he's hoping that most Republican and conservative voters will be over the honeymoon phase and willing to support the GOP Congressional caucus going full-on obstructionist.

I mean seriously, we all know that's exactly the type of political calculation that pumps through Mitch's veins rather than actual blood through a heart.

Delaying the trial 2-3 weeks into February means confirmations happen before the trial.

Good point.

OK, so what IS Mitch's game then?

Most likely, he's trying to buy the GOP time, because this is going to be an uncomfortable vote for them to take, and the more time goes by the more easily they can quickly bury this.

[Torie]

Well this is disappointing, if true. One would hope that the politically calculating Senators carefully listen to the evidence, and do what is right. I don't think this is a close case, and while i know I am idealistic on this, I cringe that many worry more about their political futures, than appropriately acting as the functional equivalent of jurors as they should.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/535343-gop-senators-say-only-a-few-republicans-will-vote-to-convict-trump

[7,052,770]

Well this is disappointing, if true. One would hope that the politically calculating Senators carefully listen to the evidence, and do what is right. I don't think this is a close case, and while i know I am idealistic on this, I cringe that many worry more about their political futures, than appropriately acting as the functional equivalent of jurors as they should.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/535343-gop-senators-say-only-a-few-republicans-will-vote-to-convict-trump

Cowards.

The trial should have been while Trump was in office. Of course they would rally around him once some time elapsed from Trump ... sending a mob to kill them.

[DaleCooper]

If there's no chance of Republicans convicting then they shouldn't hand the articles over because it would just waste time and hand Trump another acquittal.

[hyouzel the predictor]

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1352635199964778503

[Calthrina950]

Well this is disappointing, if true. One would hope that the politically calculating Senators carefully listen to the evidence, and do what is right. I don't think this is a close case, and while i know I am idealistic on this, I cringe that many worry more about their political futures, than appropriately acting as the functional equivalent of jurors as they should.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/535343-gop-senators-say-only-a-few-republicans-will-vote-to-convict-trump

Most of the Republican Senators seem to be terrified of the Republican base, and more concerned about their opinions then what is morally right or just. It would be something if Trump was acquitted a second time, and greatly disheartening. If such an outcome occurs, then impeachment will become a dead tool, and ought never to be utilized again.

[Kamala-Tim 2024]

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/21/senate-republicans-uniting-impeachment-defense-461217

Republicans seem to be coalescing around the idea that the trial is unconstitutionally because Trump’s no longer in office, and that we should just ✨move on✨. How do they sleep at night?

[Kamala-Tim 2024]

I wonder how many people have already forgotten about the attack now that he’s not the president.