DC Unrest Megathread

[Kuumo]

We have a Wikipedia page, now. It's currently titled "2021 United States Capitol protests." We'll see how long that lasts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_United_States_Capitol_protests

We'll have to see if this ever gets renamed "2021 United States Capitol riots."

How about “2021 United States Capitol terrorist attacks”

It’s now “2021 storming of the United States Capitol.” I was hoping it would be “2021 United States Capitol coup attempt,” but at least this is to the point.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_storming_of_the_United_States_Capitol

[Thank you for being a friend...]

A very strong Trump supporting friend of mine (since 2015) this afternoon:

"I hate the Democrats and what they stand for with a passion, but I guess I've come to the conclusion that we need to just cut this guy off.  He's dead weight."

Asked if he would support Cheeto in 2024, he said: "No.  Stick a fork in him.  He's done."

Quite a turnaround from what I heard 5 years ago when he said that Donald Trump was the best thing to happen to America in its history (!).

One by one, even the most hardcore conservatives are beginning to realize they have nothing to gain anymore with this clown.

[Badger]

Capitol police has charged the following 14 people in relation with yesterday's events:


Unlawful Entry:
Leonard Guthrie, Cape May, N.J.
John Anderson, St. Augustine, Fla.
Matthew Council, Riverview, Fla.
Bradley Ruskelas, Inverness, Ill.
Michael Curzio, Summerfield, Fla
Cindy Fitchett, Cobbs Creek, Va.
Terry Brown, Myerstown, Pa.
Douglas Sweet, Hudgins, Va.
Thomas Gallagher, Bridgewater, N.H.
Zandra Sixkiller-Cramer, Glenwood, Md.

Assaulting a Police Officer, Unlawful Entry, Resisting Arrest:
Mark Leffingerwell, No fixed address

CPWL & Unregistered ammunition:
Grant Moore, Buford, Ga.

CPWL, Unregistered Firearm, Unregistered Ammunition:
Lonnie Zoffman, Falkville, Al.

Assaulting a Police Officer:
David Blair, Clarksburg, Md.

That is so weak...unlawful entry...are you kidding me? You think if this had been a band of Muslims forcing themselves into Capitol Hill yelling Allahu Akbar that they would be charged with f***ing unlawful entry? You think if this had been Antifa or BLM, they would have been charged with unlawful entry??

Utterly crazy.

These people should be charged with terrorism or treason.

If Muslim extremists or BLM activists attempted this, they would have been shot, not charged.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Zandra Sixkiller-Cramer, Glenwood, Md.

This name...

Sixkiller is a Native American surname.  The University of Washington had a star quarterback in the early 1970s named Sonny Sixkiller.  His uniform number?  6. 

[SInNYC]

https://twitter.com/mepfuller/status/1347072023005163522?s=21

lmao, I’m not a small fry, I’m like 5’10 and 180 lbs of stockiness, and you can see Allred dwarfs me, Allred deffo would have won

It looks like Allred was actually the peacemaker, and it was between Harris and Lawson (according to https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/no-dallas-rep-colin-allred-wasn-e2-80-99t-involved-in-a-near-scuffle-on-house-floor-during-count-of-electoral-college-votes/ar-BB1cyHrh). Lawson and others (including Allred?) had apparently formed a chain to protect Connor Lamb during his speech since some Republicans (including Harris?) were aggressively approaching Lamb. Lawson is a 6'7 former pro basketball player.

Nothing in the article about the Republicans aggressively approaching lamb, but rather yammering to remove his statements from the record.

BTW, High-5 to Conor lamb for calling out the Congressional Republicans who facilitated the Riot by supporting and repeating Trump's lies and incitements. The poor little snowflakes just couldn't handle Conor's serving up a hot steaming plate of reality to them.

Thats a different article: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/tallahassee-congressman-al-lawson-reportedly-involved-in-us-capitol-floor-altercation/ar-BB1cyNiF (I saw this in another place too, but I cant find it now).

[With you in spirit]

Zandra Sixkiller-Cramer, Glenwood, Md.

This name...

Sixkiller is a Native American surname.  The University of Washington had a star quarterback in the early 1970s named Sonny Sixkiller.  His uniform number?  6. 

But if he kills sixes...nevermind.

[Kuumo]

Zandra Sixkiller-Cramer, Glenwood, Md.

This name...

Sixkiller is a Native American surname.  The University of Washington had a star quarterback in the early 1970s named Sonny Sixkiller.  His uniform number?  6. 

But if he kills sixes...nevermind.

Better Sixkiller than Forty-Sixkiller.

[Badger]

A very strong Trump supporting friend of mine (since 2015) this afternoon:

"I hate the Democrats and what they stand for with a passion, but I guess I've come to the conclusion that we need to just cut this guy off.  He's dead weight."

Asked if he would support Cheeto in 2024, he said: "No.  Stick a fork in him.  He's done."

Quite a turnaround from what I heard 5 years ago when he said that Donald Trump was the best thing to happen to America in its history (!).

One by one, even the most hardcore conservatives are beginning to realize they have nothing to gain anymore with this clown.

Great. Now ask him if he'll support any of the nearly 200 Republican members of Congress, or any of the other governors or politicians around the come tree, who encouraged and joined Trump in his lies and incitement over losing the election? Especially if one of them happens to be the party's nominee in 2024 like Hawley or Cruz.

It's easy to be a freedom fighter over Trump and express that type of distancing when he's only got two weeks left as a lame duck president. Let's see if your friend has this type of Profiles in Courage going on a year or two from now. I frankly suspect most of these fair weather friends of democracy we'll go back to enabling the GOP machine of which Trump is more a symptom than the cause of what happened yesterday.

[randomusername]

https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1347180733757071360

[Buffalo Mayor Young Kim]

McCaskil on stl public radio, letting loose on Hawley

[Non Swing Voter]

Capitol police has charged the following 14 people in relation with yesterday's events:


Unlawful Entry:
Leonard Guthrie, Cape May, N.J.
John Anderson, St. Augustine, Fla.
Matthew Council, Riverview, Fla.
Bradley Ruskelas, Inverness, Ill.
Michael Curzio, Summerfield, Fla
Cindy Fitchett, Cobbs Creek, Va.
Terry Brown, Myerstown, Pa.
Douglas Sweet, Hudgins, Va.
Thomas Gallagher, Bridgewater, N.H.
Zandra Sixkiller-Cramer, Glenwood, Md.

Assaulting a Police Officer, Unlawful Entry, Resisting Arrest:
Mark Leffingerwell, No fixed address

CPWL & Unregistered ammunition:
Grant Moore, Buford, Ga.

CPWL, Unregistered Firearm, Unregistered Ammunition:
Lonnie Zoffman, Falkville, Al.

Assaulting a Police Officer:
David Blair, Clarksburg, Md.

That list of towns and cities is like a who's who of east coast meth hotspots.

[Non Swing Voter]

A very strong Trump supporting friend of mine (since 2015) this afternoon:

"I hate the Democrats and what they stand for with a passion, but I guess I've come to the conclusion that we need to just cut this guy off.  He's dead weight."

Asked if he would support Cheeto in 2024, he said: "No.  Stick a fork in him.  He's done."

Quite a turnaround from what I heard 5 years ago when he said that Donald Trump was the best thing to happen to America in its history (!).

One by one, even the most hardcore conservatives are beginning to realize they have nothing to gain anymore with this clown.

Great. Now ask him if he'll support any of the nearly 200 Republican members of Congress, or any of the other governors or politicians around the come tree, who encouraged and joined Trump in his lies and incitement over losing the election? Especially if one of them happens to be the party's nominee in 2024 like Hawley or Cruz.

It's easy to be a freedom fighter over Trump and express that type of distancing when he's only got two weeks left as a lame duck president. Let's see if your friend has this type of Profiles in Courage going on a year or two from now. I frankly suspect most of these fair weather friends of democracy we'll go back to enabling the GOP machine of which Trump is more a symptom than the cause of what happened yesterday.

Right that guy is clearly making a political calculus, could care less about the damage Trump has done.  So he wouldn't at all care about Hawley enabling it as long as Hawley can win (he can't though).

[randomusername]

https://twitter.com/LeaderHoyer/status/1347227669654630401

[Badger]

https://twitter.com/mepfuller/status/1347072023005163522?s=21

lmao, I’m not a small fry, I’m like 5’10 and 180 lbs of stockiness, and you can see Allred dwarfs me, Allred deffo would have won

It looks like Allred was actually the peacemaker, and it was between Harris and Lawson (according to https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/no-dallas-rep-colin-allred-wasn-e2-80-99t-involved-in-a-near-scuffle-on-house-floor-during-count-of-electoral-college-votes/ar-BB1cyHrh). Lawson and others (including Allred?) had apparently formed a chain to protect Connor Lamb during his speech since some Republicans (including Harris?) were aggressively approaching Lamb. Lawson is a 6'7 former pro basketball player.

Nothing in the article about the Republicans aggressively approaching lamb, but rather yammering to remove his statements from the record.

BTW, High-5 to Conor lamb for calling out the Congressional Republicans who facilitated the Riot by supporting and repeating Trump's lies and incitements. The poor little snowflakes just couldn't handle Conor's serving up a hot steaming plate of reality to them.

Thats a different article: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/tallahassee-congressman-al-lawson-reportedly-involved-in-us-capitol-floor-altercation/ar-BB1cyNiF (I saw this in another place too, but I cant find it now).

Of course they did. It wasn't enough that their incited Army of thugs failed smash Pelosi and her caucus, they were ready to physically take it out on the floor. Even after what happened only hours before!!

Harris needed chin checked, as does anyone who threatens the rule of democracy and the workings of our legislative bodies. Which now apparently includes a majority of Republicans.

Oh, but we shall see tbe good little Republicans shedding crocodile tears over this and trying to lay all the blame at Trump's feet now that he's politically irrelevant ,  but inevitably crawl back in a year or two when the midterms come around and this is ancient history. My goodness! Biden actually attempted a government takeover of our Healthcare System by passing a public option!! I mean, I'm not in favor of ending American democracy as we know it, but I need to vote for the same Republicans who also incited that riot to fight SOCIALISM!!!

I wish I were wrong. But as soon as the party snaps its fingers back you'll say, well, that was all just a problem with Trump, wasn't it? And since he's gone everything is now a A-OK! All the while conveniently Ignoring the vast majority of it's congressmen, Senators, Governors, and large majority of party officials Across the Nation who loudly and unreservedly backed and repeated Trump's lies and incitements that led to yesterday's tragedy. You'll cut them a break though once Trump is no longer relevant to whether or not Republicans actually maintain power though, won't you?

Go on you new found Republican friends of democracy. Prove. Me. Wrong. I will repost this in the future to remind you.

[Gass3268]

I guess she isn't going to do the 25th Amendment?

https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1347248284138614789?s=20

[randomusername]

I guess she isn't going to do the 25th Amendment?

https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1347248284138614789?s=20

Maybe to ramp up pressure of impeachment and conviction?

[Badger]

I guess she isn't going to do the 25th Amendment?

https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1347248284138614789?s=20

Coward. Doesn't want to expose her hubby to the political Fallout of having to take a stand for basic American principles of democracy.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

Schumer is firing the Senate Sergeant-At-Arms.

[Crumpets]

My nerd thoughts now that we're more removed from the initial emotional shock of yesterday:

This was a great example of the need for nested military/political campaigns. Trump was ready to act on the grand strategic level however was necessary. The rioters achieved a massive tactical victory with the takeover of the Capitol building. However, that tactical victory wasn't nested in an operational-level or strategic-level campaign that would have carried that victory through to later victories and it allowed the pro-democracy forces to not only regain control of the Capitol within hours, but for the political victory of finishing carrying out the vote to be over and done later that night. If you're going to launch a coup, you can't just rely on having the president and rabble rousers (and quite possibly some amount of the city/Capitol police) on your side. You need people at all levels acting in concert with one another, which the democratic groups had yesterday and the Trump groups did not.

[Middle-aged Europe]

https://twitter.com/RepKinzinger/status/1347207878801846276

Adam Kinzinger (and Romney) made the evening news in Germany. TV schedules plastered with special reports like "USA: Democracy in danger?" I'm watching right now.

[Dereich]

I guess she isn't going to do the 25th Amendment?

https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1347248284138614789?s=20

She would have been one of the most likely yes votes; I think this is a good sign that the cabinet isn't going to consider the 25th. If congressmen want him removed, they'll have to do it themselves instead calling on other people to make hard decisions.

[Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist]

Still hard to process, roughly 24 hours later, everything that has happened. A president of the United States inciting a mob assault on the United States Congress, in an effort to prevent the transfer of power. I've long been reluctant to call Trump the worst president in the history of this country, given the failure to prevent the Civil War by Buchanan, and the sabotaging of Reconstruction by Andrew Johnson, but what happened yesterday would be like if Buchanan had encouraged South Carolina to fire on Fort Sumter. It's just in a completely different category compared to any action by any prior president, an utter betrayal of the country, bordering on literal treason.

The people who enabled this chaos need to either start atoning for their actions by taking an active role in bringing this presidency to an end, or else resign and let the people who are willing to end it do their jobs.

[Crumpets]

https://twitter.com/RepKinzinger/status/1347207878801846276

I stand by my statement that he's my favorite House Republican. Meanwhile on former "not so bad" Dan Crenshaw's Twitter, he does have a video where he calls on Trump and others to "stop this," right above this lovely tweet:

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1346818663354138626

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

So has Ossoff and Warnock been sworn in?

[Dereich]

So has Ossoff and Warnock been sworn in?

They can still receive military ballots through Friday. The result won't be confirmed until counting (and any possible recounts) are completed.