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« Reply #100 on: January 14, 2021, 01:02:57 PM »
This is from 2009.
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« Reply #101 on: January 14, 2021, 02:26:55 PM »
Quote from: Splash on January 14, 2021, 02:17:53 PM


Imagine coming to her as a student who needs counseling and therapy.
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« Reply #102 on: January 14, 2021, 03:48:28 PM »
Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on January 14, 2021, 03:21:50 PM


Looks like Good interpreted "representing Charlottesville" a little differently than he should have.
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« Reply #103 on: January 14, 2021, 04:09:05 PM »
If I could try to tightrope walk my not-fully-formed opinion on this, if we are asked to go through TSA to get on planes and we are asking school students to go through metal detectors to get into school, it's only reasonable we also ask this of congresspeople going to work in a known high-risk location. We already let them drive without traffic, pay them generously with exceptional benefits, and pay for their own safety in a building that we also pay for. If congress doesn't have any of the inconveniences that most Americans have, how can we trust them to actually understand what we need them to do?
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« Reply #104 on: January 14, 2021, 04:15:01 PM »
Quote from: Хahar 🤔 on January 14, 2021, 04:10:29 PM
Quote from: Crumpets on January 14, 2021, 04:09:05 PM
If I could try to tightrope walk my not-fully-formed opinion on this, if we are asked to go through TSA to get on planes and we are asking school students to go through metal detectors to get into school, it's only reasonable we also ask this of congresspeople going to work in a known high-risk location. We already let them drive without traffic, pay them generously with exceptional benefits, and pay for their own safety in a building that we also pay for. If congress doesn't have any of the inconveniences that most Americans have, how can we trust them to actually understand what we need them to do?

The obvious response is that none of that is reasonable, and I don't think that resigned acceptance of the security state is justification for actively forcing more of it.

The alternate to the "security state," at least to the extent that one exists now, is that we actually try to address structural reasons why there are security threats. And I'm more resigned to the reality that that's not happening any time soon. The amount of security we have now with things like the TSA and school metal detectors (militarized local police departments not so much) I think are at least a sustainable reality until we get to the point where we can address those structural problems, and making sure congress feels that reality as much as the rest of us is probably one of the best ways to make sure they actually feel pressure to act.
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« Reply #105 on: January 15, 2021, 05:33:51 PM »
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« Reply #106 on: January 15, 2021, 05:48:13 PM »
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« Reply #107 on: January 15, 2021, 08:09:45 PM »
Quote from: ProudModerate2 on January 15, 2021, 08:02:17 PM
Quote from: Crumpets on January 15, 2021, 05:48:13 PM


Could some of these Congress-people (and/or their assistants) be that stupid as to give tours to these terrorists, knowing that every corner in The Capitol has cameras-upon-cameras (taped footage)?

Well, they might just be stupid enough to have thought the attack would be successful, in which case it wouldn't have mattered.
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« Reply #108 on: January 17, 2021, 09:52:45 PM »
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« Reply #109 on: January 22, 2021, 08:22:12 PM »
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« Reply #110 on: January 23, 2021, 04:35:58 PM »
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« Reply #111 on: January 30, 2021, 02:39:31 AM »
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« Reply #112 on: February 01, 2021, 01:35:24 PM »
« Edited: February 01, 2021, 01:43:32 PM by Crumpets »

He probably figured that, after the patriots restored the American constitution, he'd get painted into murals commemorating the day and interviewed on all the talk shows, and it'd be free advertising.
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« Reply #113 on: February 03, 2021, 08:29:58 PM »
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« Reply #114 on: February 04, 2021, 02:37:39 PM »
Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on February 04, 2021, 12:56:26 PM
Quote from: Ishan on February 04, 2021, 12:36:47 PM
Quote from: Hindsight was 2020 on February 04, 2021, 12:32:13 PM
Well with Sanchez gone someone had to take up the awful rw troll poster mantle here
Well Grumps joined 6 years before Sanchez.

Slow and steady wins the race. Wink

Wait, Grumps is McConnell? It's all so clear now.
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« Reply #115 on: February 05, 2021, 04:25:47 PM »
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« Reply #116 on: February 05, 2021, 04:34:01 PM »
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« Reply #117 on: February 05, 2021, 06:05:56 PM »
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« Reply #118 on: February 07, 2021, 04:30:28 PM »
Great thread+comments
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« Reply #119 on: February 08, 2021, 07:49:33 PM »
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« Reply #120 on: February 11, 2021, 02:06:19 PM »
I believe these are the first arrests for January 6th in Kansas.
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« Reply #121 on: February 11, 2021, 02:53:56 PM »
Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on February 10, 2021, 08:25:19 PM



I disagree with this analysis, at least in part. Any quick skim of the right-wing internet shows that plenty of the people leaving are Trump people re-registering as independents out of disgust over congressional Republicans refusing to overturn the election.
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« Reply #122 on: February 14, 2021, 04:40:32 PM »
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« Reply #123 on: February 16, 2021, 11:06:55 AM »
TIL there's something called the Ku Klux Klan Act.
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« Reply #124 on: February 18, 2021, 07:29:39 PM »
CNN: Capitol Police: 6 officers suspended for alleged roles in riot

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Six US Capitol Police officers have been suspended with pay, and 29 others have been placed under investigation, for their actions in the January 6 riot, a department spokesman said Thursday.

"Acting Chief Yogananda Pittman has directed that any member of her department whose behavior is not in keeping with the Department's Rules of Conduct will face appropriate discipline," department spokesman John Stolnis told CNN.

CNN reported in January that the USCP had placed at least 10 officers under investigation, and two others had been suspended.

One of the suspended officers took a selfie with someone who was part of the mob that overtook the Capitol, according to Rep. Tim Ryan, a Democrat from Ohio. Another wore a "Make America Great Again" hat and started directing people around the building, Ryan said.
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