Is Trump the first incumbent to lose reelection despite gaining votes?
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« on: January 05, 2021, 01:28:00 AM »

It's seems since the 20th century he has, and the first one to do so.
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2021, 01:38:50 AM »

Seems like this was true of Martin van Buren and Grover Cleveland.  Technically also true of John Quincy Adams, though the popular vote was pretty meaningless in 1824.
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2021, 11:15:36 AM »

Looks like he’s the only Republican ever to do it.
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2021, 11:24:07 AM »
« Edited: January 05, 2021, 11:27:26 AM by MR. KAYNE WEST »

He is the third R to lose the House in the midterm and lose reelection Taft and Hoover likewise did it and he will be in the History books for that
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2021, 08:11:56 AM »

No, John Quincy Adams got 115,000 votes in 1824 but got 500,000 in 1828 when he lost re-election

But to be fair, those 4 years saw the right to vote from just men who own property to all white men. Biggest expansion of the electorate until 1920. Also, it when from a four man race to just two

To be fair, Carter lost in a landslide. A closer race means he probably wins more votes than 1976. Without Perot, HW Bush might have won more.
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2021, 08:22:14 AM »

Looks like he's the first incumbent since JQA to lose the presidency while getting a higher percentage of the vote than when first elected.
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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2021, 12:12:41 AM »

No, John Quincy Adams got 115,000 votes in 1824 but got 500,000 in 1828 when he lost re-election

But to be fair, those 4 years saw the right to vote from just men who own property to all white men. Biggest expansion of the electorate until 1920. Also, it when from a four man race to just two

To be fair, Carter lost in a landslide. A closer race means he probably wins more votes than 1976. Without Perot, HW Bush might have won more.

What about non-white northerners?
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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2021, 02:22:36 AM »

No, John Quincy Adams got 115,000 votes in 1824 but got 500,000 in 1828 when he lost re-election

But to be fair, those 4 years saw the right to vote from just men who own property to all white men. Biggest expansion of the electorate until 1920. Also, it when from a four man race to just two

To be fair, Carter lost in a landslide. A closer race means he probably wins more votes than 1976. Without Perot, HW Bush might have won more.

What about non-white northerners?
What about them?
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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2021, 08:50:46 AM »

No, John Quincy Adams got 115,000 votes in 1824 but got 500,000 in 1828 when he lost re-election

But to be fair, those 4 years saw the right to vote from just men who own property to all white men. Biggest expansion of the electorate until 1920. Also, it when from a four man race to just two

To be fair, Carter lost in a landslide. A closer race means he probably wins more votes than 1976. Without Perot, HW Bush might have won more.

What about non-white northerners?
I'm not sure. How easy/hard was it for northern blacks to vote from 1865-1964?

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