Should Democrats challenge electoral slates from Trump states in retaliation?
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
June 13, 2025, 03:42:09 PM
News: Election Calculator 3.0 with county/house maps is now live. For more info, click here

  Talk Elections
  Election Archive
  Election Archive
  2020 U.S. Presidential Election
  Should Democrats challenge electoral slates from Trump states in retaliation?
« previous next »
Pages: [1]
Poll
Question: Should Democrats challenge electoral slates from Trump states in retaliation?
#1
Yes
 
#2
No
 
Show Pie Chart
Partisan results

Total Voters: 67

Author Topic: Should Democrats challenge electoral slates from Trump states in retaliation?  (Read 4493 times)
falling apart like the ashes of American flags
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 118,130
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« on: January 04, 2021, 07:27:04 PM »

I totally would because f[inks] them. Hell the first state up is Alabama, so it would be a great "f[inks] you" to Brooks and Tuberville.
Logged
Catalyst138
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 833
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2021, 07:41:52 PM »

No, we don’t need to fight fire with fire, and it’s not necessary because nothing will come out of this “dispute” to begin with.
Logged
neostassenite31
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 563
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2021, 08:05:40 PM »

No because it will allow Republicans to turn their whole performance into a "both sides" nonsense and claim moral ambiguity when there clearly is none
Logged
doc gerritcole
goatofalltrades
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 2,477


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2021, 08:13:08 PM »

Yes but I’m also petty
Logged
Dwarven Dragon
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 33,296
United States


Political Matrix
E: -1.03, S: 0.35

P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2021, 08:23:46 PM »

No. We'll get a larger congressional victory in favor of Biden if we make the day about respecting the will of the people - regardless of who they elected in each state - then if we try to make it a direct referendum on the Trump Administration or Republican Extremism.
Logged
brucejoel99
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 20,418
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -3.48, S: -3.30


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2021, 08:35:01 PM »

"F**k American democracy, I'd rather fail at scoring some cheap political points." - BRTD
Logged
Wrong about 2024 Ghost
Runeghost
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 22,024


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2021, 09:08:01 PM »

No. Use the whole sad affair to get rid of the electoral college entirely (either via amendment or the national popular vote compact) and lock the GOP out of the White House for the foreseeable future.
Logged
Hammy
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,701
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2021, 09:24:35 PM »

Doing so would do nothing but legitimize this in the eyes of the public.
Logged
ηєω ƒяσηтιєя
New Frontier
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 10,751
United States


Political Matrix
E: -5.42, S: -1.22


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2021, 12:52:54 AM »

No, we don’t need to fight fire with fire, and it’s not necessary because nothing will come out of this “dispute” to begin with.

"F**k American democracy, I'd rather fail at scoring some cheap political points." - BRTD

Doing so would do nothing but legitimize this in the eyes of the public.
Logged
SevenEleven
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,686


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2021, 12:56:49 AM »

Doing so would do nothing but legitimize this in the eyes of the public.

That sounds like a problem with the public. We should work to fix that.
Logged
Fmr. Gov. NickG
NickG
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,099


Political Matrix
E: -8.00, S: -3.49

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2021, 01:12:15 AM »

No, this is definitely not how Biden should fight this. This isn’t a joke. He should fight it by arresting these traitors on sedition charges.
Logged
BlueSwan
blueswan
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,721
Denmark


Political Matrix
E: -4.26, S: -7.30

WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2021, 02:39:09 AM »

No because it will allow Republicans to turn their whole performance into a "both sides" nonsense and claim moral ambiguity when there clearly is none
Logged
Hammy
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,701
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2021, 04:17:52 AM »
« Edited: January 05, 2021, 04:21:54 AM by Hammy »

Doing so would do nothing but legitimize this in the eyes of the public.

That sounds like a problem with the public. We should work to fix that.

Or, Dems could stop aspiring to be the same terroristic anti-American traitors that Trumpist Republicans are. Otherwise there's no point supporting them either.

No. Use the whole sad affair to get rid of the electoral college entirely (either via amendment or the national popular vote compact) and lock the GOP out of the White House for the foreseeable future.

This actually provides the best argument so far that might unify both sides on the issue--at this point it's nothing but a bunch of procedural red tape full of loopholes that are just asking to be manipulated.
Logged
Trends Are Fake
Stuart98
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 2,082
United States


Political Matrix
E: -5.35, S: -5.83


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2021, 05:54:11 AM »

Logged
Mr. Smith
MormDem
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 36,682
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2021, 06:58:01 AM »

Should've done that in WI/MI/PA in 2016.

Not this time though as Biden won. But maybe the suspiciously close NC.
Logged
vitoNova
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3,848
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2021, 07:32:44 AM »

I'm usually all about "fighting fire with fire."   But in this case, it's unwise.  Because currently, it's Trump vs. Democracy.

The Trumpkins would love nothing more than to turn this sh1tshow into GOP vs. Democrats, or Trump vs Biden.

Meaning, their chances of overturning an election increases when the perception is that this is just another DC political food-fight, as opposed to a Trumpkin attack on sacred American institutions. 
Logged
Mr.Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 98,482
Jamaica


Political Matrix
E: -6.19, S: -4.17

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2021, 10:40:24 AM »

No, but if a situation ever arises like a 2000/ scenario, be sure that Trump has now set the precedent for both parties to challenge the EC college
Logged
Darthpi - Crush the Oligarchy
darthpi
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,987
United States


Political Matrix
E: -6.13, S: -6.87

P

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2021, 02:02:12 PM »

No, but I will make one related point: There is a better case for looking for fraud committed by Republican election officials in close states that Trump won like Florida or North Carolina than there is a case for looking for voter fraud in states won by Biden. Given that we have Trump on tape asking for officials in Georgia to commit fraud, we shouldn't assume that he didn't request similar frauds be committed elsewhere, perhaps even before the election.

To be clear, I don't think such fraud did occur, I'm just saying Trump has proven that he can't be trusted not to commit election fraud.
Logged
Motorcity
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,471


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2021, 03:10:52 PM »

No, but I will make one related point: There is a better case for looking for fraud committed by Republican election officials in close states that Trump won like Florida or North Carolina than there is a case for looking for voter fraud in states won by Biden. Given that we have Trump on tape asking for officials in Georgia to commit fraud, we shouldn't assume that he didn't request similar frauds be committed elsewhere, perhaps even before the election.

To be clear, I don't think such fraud did occur, I'm just saying Trump has proven that he can't be trusted not to commit election fraud.
I'm fine with but NC has a Democratic governor. Also the margin in Florida was too big for fraud alone to carry Trump over the line
Logged
Doomer
GWBFan
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 14,292


P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2021, 03:31:32 PM »

We need to find a way to retaliate and punish Congresspeople who commit open treason like this...but doing this would be to disregard American democracy just as Republicans are disregarding it.
Logged
Hammy
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,701
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2021, 04:07:42 PM »

Should've done that in WI/MI/PA in 2016.

Not this time though as Biden won. But maybe the suspiciously close NC.

Nothing would've come from that other than having a much larger number of Republicans joining the call to oppose Biden, and this being used against Dems.

Once again I will never understand this fetish some Dems here have with wanting to commit treason.
Logged
pbrower2a
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 27,389
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2021, 10:40:26 AM »

It would have been pointless.
Logged
Pages: [1]  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.05 seconds with 12 queries.