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« Reply #225 on: May 08, 2021, 12:25:18 PM »

Labour have gained the Cambridgeshire and Peterborough “metro” mayor from the Tories.

Some suggestions the Greens might be in with a chance for the Bristol city mayor (not to be confused with the “West of England” metro mayor.
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« Reply #226 on: May 08, 2021, 12:26:52 PM »

Labour have gained the Cambridgeshire and Peterborough “metro” mayor from the Tories.

Some suggestions the Greens might be in with a chance for the Bristol city mayor (not to be confused with the “West of England” metro mayor.

51.1% to 48.9%. Cambridgeshire County Council was also lost to NOC. The Lib Dems broke decently for Labour, it would seem.
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« Reply #227 on: May 08, 2021, 01:29:35 PM »

London results, mayoral, expected in one hour, at 8:30 pm.
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« Reply #228 on: May 08, 2021, 01:44:00 PM »

London results, mayoral, expected in one hour, at 8:30 pm.



He's the results mapped so far (thank you Cinyc). In the end not so different to to that YouGov poll which came out a few days ago, just the slow count masked Khan's lead. I think the swing to Labour in West/Southwest London is interesting given both the Green defections for first place. it "rhymes" so to speak with the 2020 swings in many US cities where the wealthy areas went left and minorities right. Obviously there are many differences though, most notably candidates, so its not a absolute comparison.
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« Reply #229 on: May 08, 2021, 01:52:48 PM »

London results, mayoral, expected in one hour, at 8:30 pm.



He's the results mapped so far (thank you Cinyc). In the end not so different to to that YouGov poll which came out a few days ago, just the slow count masked Khan's lead. I think the swing to Labour in West/Southwest London is interesting given both the Green defections for first place. it "rhymes" so to speak with the 2020 swings in many US cities where the wealthy areas went left and minorities right. Obviously there are many differences though, most notably candidates, so its not a absolute comparison.

According to the London city election website, Khan is leading 48-28 in City & East, Bailey in Croydon & Sutton and South West, 44-32 and 36-35, respectively. This seems to indicate a final 54-46 Khan victory, right?
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« Reply #230 on: May 08, 2021, 01:55:52 PM »

London results, mayoral, expected in one hour, at 8:30 pm.


He's the results mapped so far (thank you Cinyc). In the end not so different to to that YouGov poll which came out a few days ago, just the slow count masked Khan's lead. I think the swing to Labour in West/Southwest London is interesting given both the Green defections for first place. it "rhymes" so to speak with the 2020 swings in many US cities where the wealthy areas went left and minorities right. Obviously there are many differences though, most notably candidates, so its not a absolute comparison.

According to the London city election website, Khan is leading 48-28 in City & East, Bailey in Croydon & Sutton and South West, 44-32 and 36-35, respectively. This seems to indicate a final 54-46 Khan victory, right?

Something near that. Second preferences have held up better than first for Khan, so it could be a bit higher.
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« Reply #231 on: May 08, 2021, 02:45:03 PM »

English assembly when?
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« Reply #232 on: May 08, 2021, 02:51:52 PM »


Very unlikely and certainly not under this government. We can dream.
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« Reply #233 on: May 08, 2021, 02:52:30 PM »
« Edited: May 08, 2021, 03:01:01 PM by Geoffrey Howe »

LDs get 28% in South West GLA for constituency member. 8,000 votes off the Tories (Labour 3rd). 20% on the list there (3rd place). Turnout 47%.

Bailey squeaks by in the first preferences with 36%, but Khan ahead with second preferences. Richmond and Kingston were prime Goldsmith areas and Bailey - as expected - significantly underperformed. Porritt on 10% - clearly people voting LD for GLA and Khan for mayor.

It's not surprising, because
1) The Tories aren't too popular here. It's very pro-EU and held by the Lib Dems nationally
2) The Tory vote was artificially high in 2016 because Goldsmith was locally popular.

Still symbolically important. Not as good as Livingstone 2004 here though.
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« Reply #234 on: May 08, 2021, 04:20:30 PM »


Very unlikely and certainly not under this government. We can dream.

Until we get a Wessex Assembly I will shout "Free Wessex" outside Parliament every day. 😠

Just like that Steve Bray bloke.
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« Reply #235 on: May 08, 2021, 04:25:47 PM »


Very unlikely and certainly not under this government. We can dream.

Until we get a Wessex Assembly I will shout "Free Wessex" outside Parliament every day. 😠

Just like that Steve Bray bloke.

I will happily join you and look forward to being elected on the WNP Hampshire list.
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« Reply #236 on: May 08, 2021, 04:26:34 PM »

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Some suggestions the Greens might be in with a chance for the Bristol city mayor (not to be confused with the “West of England” metro mayor.

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« Reply #237 on: May 08, 2021, 04:31:19 PM »


Very unlikely and certainly not under this government. We can dream.

Until we get a Wessex Assembly I will shout "Free Wessex" outside Parliament every day. 😠

Just like that Steve Bray bloke.

I will happily join you and look forward to being elected on the WNP Hampshire list.

Alfred the Great will rise again!
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« Reply #238 on: May 08, 2021, 04:43:15 PM »

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Some suggestions the Greens might be in with a chance for the Bristol city mayor (not to be confused with the “West of England” metro mayor.



I think that’s too big a gap to make up, and Rees (Lab) will hold on.
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« Reply #239 on: May 08, 2021, 05:04:31 PM »
« Edited: May 08, 2021, 05:07:51 PM by Alcibiades »

As expected, Khan has indeed won, but by a bit less than polls had suggested. 55-45 in the second round.
Bailey was bolstered by a good performance in Northern Outer London and indeed relatively in many of Labour’s strongholds in East London, although he underperformed Goldsmith in Westminster, Kensington and Chelsea, Wandsworth, Merton, and the South West.
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« Reply #240 on: May 08, 2021, 05:09:48 PM »

There is a Mayor of the West of England? Ridiculous country.
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« Reply #241 on: May 08, 2021, 05:11:32 PM »

As expected, Khan has indeed won, but by a bit less than polls had suggested. 55-45 in the second round.
Bailey was bolstered by a good performance in Northern Outer London and indeed relatively in many of Labour’s strongholds in East London, although he underperformed Goldsmith in Westminster, Kensington and Chelsea, Wandsworth, Merton, and the South West.

For such a crap candidate it's a decent result. Might even have a shot at getting the candidacy next time.
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« Reply #242 on: May 08, 2021, 05:17:44 PM »

As expected, Khan has indeed won, but by a bit less than polls had suggested. 55-45 in the second round.
Bailey was bolstered by a good performance in Northern Outer London and indeed relatively in many of Labour’s strongholds in East London, although he underperformed Goldsmith in Westminster, Kensington and Chelsea, Wandsworth, Merton, and the South West.

Where did you find these more detailed results, I can only find results broken down by London assembly district?
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« Reply #243 on: May 08, 2021, 05:19:35 PM »

As expected, Khan has indeed won, but by a bit less than polls had suggested. 55-45 in the second round.
Bailey was bolstered by a good performance in Northern Outer London and indeed relatively in many of Labour’s strongholds in East London, although he underperformed Goldsmith in Westminster, Kensington and Chelsea, Wandsworth, Merton, and the South West.

Where did you find these more detailed results, I can only find results broken down by London assembly district?

Sorry, I was referring to the London Assembly districts - I just thought ‘Westminster, Kensington and Chelsea’ sounded better than the somewhat artificial ‘West Central’.
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« Reply #244 on: May 08, 2021, 05:47:16 PM »

County Durham finally finished their count and the authority falls to No Overall Control, as expected after the past two days. All parties and factions gained seats at the expense of Labour, who remain the largest part by a lot, but the Conservatives were the largest beneficiaries.
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« Reply #245 on: May 08, 2021, 06:34:49 PM »

'Durham County Council' rather than 'County Durham' as only a surprisingly small proportion of the latter is in the former (at least in terms of population, if not area). I'm not snapping here, I'm sure it really is confusing Smiley

The pattern of gains and losses was a bit more complex than the headline figures suggest: Labour shed a few seats here and few seats there to everyone (though managed at least one gain), but the Conservatives gained quite a number of seats from independents. The independents do not form a single group, but a number of different ones: there are also minor parties (including the North East Party who have councillors in Peterlee) who are wrongly included in media totals as independents.

Anyway, this will be the first time since the 1920s that the local government body calling itself 'Durham County Council' (there have been several, all with different boundaries)* has not had a Labour majority if we ignore the period in 2008 when a bunch of councillors were suspended and the majority disappeared as it was tiny - there will be people saying 'since 1919' but actually that majority was lost almost as soon as it was gained. Not a surprise given the wider context of the elections as the majority wasn't big going into the elections and as it's common for there to be local election bounces where seats flip after a long hold.

*The pre-1974 council (the famous one) included everything between the Tyne and the Tees except for the major towns which were county boroughs (Durham City - that is the city proper which was quite small in area - included) and the 1974 council had the same boundaries as the current Police Commissioner area.
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« Reply #246 on: May 08, 2021, 07:39:22 PM »

Marvin Rees wins reelection in Bristol.
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« Reply #247 on: May 09, 2021, 02:54:56 AM »

As expected, Khan has indeed won, but by a bit less than polls had suggested. 55-45 in the second round.
Bailey was bolstered by a good performance in Northern Outer London and indeed relatively in many of Labour’s strongholds in East London, although he underperformed Goldsmith in Westminster, Kensington and Chelsea, Wandsworth, Merton, and the South West.

I understand Bailey doing worse in the South West, but not in West Central. It seems to be full of partisan Tories who voted for Steve Norris and were voting Tory when William Hague was leader. The rest of London is still bad for the Tories and still full of non-Labour Remainers yet there were swings away from Khan. All I can think of is abysmal turnout in places like Belgravia.
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« Reply #248 on: May 09, 2021, 03:08:38 AM »

As expected, Khan has indeed won, but by a bit less than polls had suggested. 55-45 in the second round.
Bailey was bolstered by a good performance in Northern Outer London and indeed relatively in many of Labour’s strongholds in East London, although he underperformed Goldsmith in Westminster, Kensington and Chelsea, Wandsworth, Merton, and the South West.

I understand Bailey doing worse in the South West, but not in West Central. It seems to be full of partisan Tories who voted for Steve Norris and were voting Tory when William Hague was leader. The rest of London is still bad for the Tories and still full of non-Labour Remainers yet there were swings away from Khan. All I can think of is abysmal turnout in places like Belgravia.

I wonder if Bailey’s focus on stopping the “Outer London Tax” as he called it had anything to do with it, seeing as West Central has been paying the Congestion Charge for a while now.
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« Reply #249 on: May 09, 2021, 03:26:08 AM »
« Edited: May 09, 2021, 03:44:25 AM by beesley »

There is a Mayor of the West of England? Ridiculous country.

The West of England does not refer to the actual West of England, fyi, just Bristol and its environs. It actually covers a far smaller area and population than most of the other mayoralties. Better than the Mayor of Cambridgeshire and Peterborough which is far more egregious.
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