117th House Opening Sessions Thread - January 3&4

[Attorney General & LGC Deputy Dwarven Dragon]

Vote Summary for H. Res. 1: https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/20213

Noes were Griffith (R-VA) and Harris (R-MD)

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

Vote Summary for H. Res. 1: https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/20213

Noes were Griffith (R-VA) and Harris (R-MD)

Why would they vote no? Like that’s just an administrative thing. And it’s not like their known super nuts

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

That's weird, hasn't Chip Roy generally been opposing the effort to challenge the election?

Yes.  Perhaps this is a way to highlight the hypocrisy of any representatives from those states objecting to Biden's election?

Yeah, that was the point he was making. If the presidential votes in those states were messed up, then clearly we shouldn't be seating any of the House members either. So now all the Republicans have been forced to go on record on this.

https://twitter.com/RepChipRoy/status/1345873272831963141

God help me, I kind of like this guy's style in the way that I like, say, Amash's.

[Roll Roons]

Now that the freshmen have been sworn in, they've moved into their offices. https://clerk.house.gov/member_info/TTD-117.pdf

Cori Bush and Marjorie Taylor Greene are right by each other. I couldn't make this up if I tried.

[They not like us]

Now that the freshmen have been sworn in, they've moved into their offices. https://clerk.house.gov/member_info/TTD-117.pdf

Cori Bush and Marjorie Taylor Greene are right by each other. I couldn't make this up if I tried.

Jesus Christ.

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

Now that the freshmen have been sworn in, they've moved into their offices. https://clerk.house.gov/member_info/TTD-117.pdf

Cori Bush and Marjorie Taylor Greene are right by each other. I couldn't make this up if I tried.

This is a bad sitcom waiting to happen

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Vote Summary for H. Res. 1: https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/20213

Noes were Griffith (R-VA) and Harris (R-MD)

Why would they vote no? Like that’s just an administrative thing. And it’s not like their known super nuts

Andy Harris is a whack job, always has been

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

All the talk about defectors, it didn't matter, Pelosi still was elected Speaker anyways, Connor Lamb should have voted for Pelosi

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

Pelosi's final term as Speaker.

Dems should look at Hakeem Jeffries or Cheri Bustos in the future. 

It'll be Jeffries.

I think Lamb's vote for him, given that they're not very similar ideologically or in terms of personal background, was meant partly to suggest that, yes. He's youngish by House leadership standards, from an ultra-safe seat (like Pelosi and unlike Bustos), and would be the first non-white House party leader (almost said "Congressional party leader" before remembering Charles Curtis) in a Democratic Party to which firsts like that are increasingly important. For all these reasons, he's definitely the favorite.

I would agree.

Unfortunately, Jeffries is also the lesser evil keeping AOC et al in Pelosi's corner. While she may be more covertly against the left, Jeffries is extremely overtly anti-left - to the point where he abused official communications accounts to rebuke AOC's staff.

His election to Speaker would signal my point of no return with the Democratic Party. It would represent a departure from Biden's ideas of unity and giving the left a seat at the table, and a return to the Clinton-esque idea that the left is a significant drag on the party and must be rooted out of the party. And if the Democratic caucus believes I'm a drag in the party, I'm perfectly happy to show them how wrong they are.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Now that the freshmen have been sworn in, they've moved into their offices. https://clerk.house.gov/member_info/TTD-117.pdf

Cori Bush and Marjorie Taylor Greene are right by each other. I couldn't make this up if I tried.

Jesus Christ.

[Muffled Odd Couple theme song playing in the distance]

EDIT: I see I was beaten to it.

[Attorney General & LGC Deputy Dwarven Dragon]

House has come in to debate its rules package.

https://twitter.com/RepCloakroom/status/1346110828903329794?s=20
https://twitter.com/RepCloakroom/status/1346110892543512576?s=20
https://twitter.com/RepCloakroom/status/1346111002186711041?s=20

[Oryxslayer]

That's weird, hasn't Chip Roy generally been opposing the effort to challenge the election?

Yes.  Perhaps this is a way to highlight the hypocrisy of any representatives from those states objecting to Biden's election?

Yeah, that was the point he was making. If the presidential votes in those states were messed up, then clearly we shouldn't be seating any of the House members either. So now all the Republicans have been forced to go on record on this.

https://twitter.com/RepChipRoy/status/1345873272831963141

God help me, I kind of like this guy's style in the way that I like, say, Amash's.

The Authoritarian vs Federalist Republican split that Trump is forcing on the party right now is not a clear cut line between those brought in by the Trump admin and those from before it. If anything, it's a split between those who were introduced to politics in the dixicratic, and later Blue Dog, school of using politics to preserve Power, and those that were trained in areas more familiar with ideological competition.

[Skill and Chance]

That's weird, hasn't Chip Roy generally been opposing the effort to challenge the election?

Yes.  Perhaps this is a way to highlight the hypocrisy of any representatives from those states objecting to Biden's election?

Yeah, that was the point he was making. If the presidential votes in those states were messed up, then clearly we shouldn't be seating any of the House members either. So now all the Republicans have been forced to go on record on this.

https://twitter.com/RepChipRoy/status/1345873272831963141

God help me, I kind of like this guy's style in the way that I like, say, Amash's.

The Authoritarian vs Federalist Republican split that Trump is forcing on the party right now is not a clear cut line between those brought in by the Trump admin and those from before it. If anything, it's a split between those who were introduced to politics in the dixicratic, and later Blue Dog, school of using politics to preserve Power, and those that were trained in areas more familiar with ideological competition.

It's wild that Chip Roy and Mike Lee oppose the EC certification challenge while Mike Garcia and Elise Stefanik support it.

Seems like the dividing line is states where changing election law on (near) party line votes is common vs. states where it is not? 

[Attorney General & LGC Deputy Dwarven Dragon]

The motion to table the motion to postpone is agreed to, 214-204

This was a party line vote.

[Attorney General & LGC Deputy Dwarven Dragon]

https://mobile.twitter.com/RepCloakroom/status/1346131435845988354
https://twitter.com/RepCloakroom/status/1346131924935438336?s=20
https://twitter.com/RepCloakroom/status/1346132267786244100?s=20

[Attorney General & LGC Deputy Dwarven Dragon]

https://twitter.com/RepCloakroom/status/1346144657231777793?s=20
Party line vote.

1 hour Debate on the H. Res. 8 to establish the rules has begun.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Is it normal for this part of the opening process to be party-line?

[Attorney General & LGC Deputy Dwarven Dragon]

Is it normal for this part of the opening process to be party-line?

Yes

[Attorney General & LGC Deputy Dwarven Dragon]

The House is now voting on ordering the previous question with respect to H. Res. 8.

[Attorney General & LGC Deputy Dwarven Dragon]

The previous question is ordered, on a party line vote of 217-204.

The question is now on the motion to commit with respect to H. Res. 8.

[Attorney General & LGC Deputy Dwarven Dragon]

The motion to commit was rejected on a party line vote of 203-217.

Now voting on adoption of H. Res. 8.

[Attorney General & LGC Deputy Dwarven Dragon]

H. Res. 8 was adopted on a party line vote of 217-206.

[Attorney General & LGC Deputy Dwarven Dragon]

H. Res. 9 - Electing Certain Committees
Agreed to by voice vote

H. Res. 10 - Electing Certain Committees
Agreed to by voice vote

H. Res. 11 - Fixing the Daily Hour of Meeting
Agreed to by voice vote

H. Con. Res. 1 - Convening at a Different Place if warranted by the public interest
Agreed to by voice vote

The House's opening business concluded at 5:04 PM ET.

[StateBoiler]

What is the first real legislation the House and Senate will consider (or the committees I guess it should be said)?

[StateBoiler]

So procedure question. Republican congressman puts forth a motion to postpone consideration of the Rules package. Hoyer makes a motion to table the motion to postpone consideration. Tabling in the American context means to suspend indefinitely. Why don't they just have a vote and vote it down since the Democrats have the votes. What's the difference between defeating the motion and tabling the motion since both require a vote and the postponement motion becomes moot anyway once the rules package resolution has passed?