Israel General Elections || 23.03.2021

[Alben Barkley]

I made something

Post this to r/politicalcompassmemes if you haven't already.

[KaiserDave]

Bennett is a reprehensible reactionary character but this is absolutely a good thing, and he will be unable to govern as right wing as he would hope. Very pleased with how this was all put together.

[Storr]

I made something

Post this to r/politicalcompassmemes if you haven't already.

I didn't get the Yesh Atid one until I saw what Yir Lapid looks like.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

I made something

Post this to r/politicalcompassmemes if you haven't already.

I didn't get the Yesh Atid one until I saw what Yir Lapid looks like.

Lapid has the kavorka.

[warandwar]

I think Odeh said that there would be some Joint List support for the new government in the confidence vote (if they need it). So, there isn't too much of a risk of there is another Yamina defection.

Hadash and Balad (4 MKs) have both announced they will vote no. Ta'al (2 MKs) has said no or abstain, yet to say which. Touma-Sliman said that Bennett would lead “a dangerous right-wing government,” one that would “remove Netanyahu but preserve his path.”

[Crumpets]

Is that a promise?

https://twitter.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/1400825370212024326

[Mike88]

Is that a promise?

https://twitter.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/1400825370212024326

Yeah, no doubt, if Netanyahu is forced out of office, Keir Starmer's Labour will start leading the polls by 20% and Boris will be gone. No doubt.

But seriously, this guy thinks very highly of himself. Jesus!

[Left Wing]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/02/world/middleeast/netanyahu-bennett-israel-coalition.html

Surprised no one seems to be talking about this here yet.

You do realize that pages upon pages of discussion on this have been almost the entirety of this thread for several months, right?

[Mike88]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/02/world/middleeast/netanyahu-bennett-israel-coalition.html

Surprised no one seems to be talking about this here yet.

You do realize that pages upon pages of discussion on this have been almost the entirety of this thread for several months, right?

To be fair, he originally posted that on the International General Discussion forum, then it was merged with this thread.

[Left Wing]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/02/world/middleeast/netanyahu-bennett-israel-coalition.html

Surprised no one seems to be talking about this here yet.

You do realize that pages upon pages of discussion on this have been almost the entirety of this thread for several months, right?

To be fair, he originally posted that on the International General Discussion forum, then it was merged with this thread.

Okay that makes a bit more sense haha.

[Oryxslayer]

https://twitter.com/MairavZ/status/1400194764780277760?s=20

Both a potential admission of defeat and a nice round-up of the ministries.

[Hnv1]

Current timeframe:
Monday June 7 - Speaker Levine announces to the house Lapid managed to form a government
No later than Monday June 14 Levine must schedule a confidence vote and a vote on electing a new speaker.
Lapid has to publish all coalition agreements 48 hours before the confidence vote. The confidence requires a simple majority (i.e., 60-58 is good).


New government is set to have a record number of women, and 8 Arabs as coalition members.

*I must say that according to my research this is the first the procedure has been followed to the word. Former speakers merely mailed members the time of the vote which happened 2-5 days from announcement.

[Angel of Death]

https://twitter.com/NeriZilber/status/1401119645747318785

[Walmart_shopper]

Can one of the Israeli posters tell me how strong the PM position is? If not for the agreements they made for the coalition to come together, would the PM be able to do anything he wants or are most policies decided by ministers?

The position itself is quite weak, although Netanyahu is such a strongman he kind of made the actual position seem quite broad in terms of its power. In any case Bennet will be an extremely weak PM with almost no meaningful power himself.

[Hnv1]

Can one of the Israeli posters tell me how strong the PM position is? If not for the agreements they made for the coalition to come together, would the PM be able to do anything he wants or are most policies decided by ministers?

You have two axes: de jure de facto and the individual character.

De facto most PMs take almost complete control of foreign and defence policy with the defence minister (who is often themselves). Part for that the PM has few official powers. He decides the itinerary of government meetings and such. The PM in recent years is starting to take more power with new bodies like the national security council and national economic council under him giving him support outsides the treasury and the MoD. In addition the PM is the sole chief of the Mossad and Shin Bet, unlike the IDF. (Nuclear weapons are co-managed by the PM and the MoD in a manner I’ll explain sometime if interest will arise).
On domestic issues the PM is more often than not powerless. When Mapai they had Complete control with the workers federation Histadrut. Nowadays with the diverse coalitions and the dominance of the public service workers in the treasury and justice department a PM is relatively weak.

The second axis is the character of the specific PM. Bibi is strong as he’s been working for years on getting his people and to the top. So he exerts unofficial power. Other PMs had more (Sharon) or less (Bibi 96-99 and Shamir).
Also mind you that up until a decade ago we were in a two party system where each party had strong figures any leader had to consult. Rabin and Peres hated each other but had to give each other the second highest position in government and authorities. Bibi hated Sharon, Levy, Meridor and such but had to give them power. Nowadays Bibi rules Likud like a dictator and Lapid is a dictator.

Lastly. Bennett will be PM with Lapid as co-PM. This little experiment is still unfolding so hard to judge by Bibi and Gantz’ 6 months of tug war.

[CumbrianLefty]

https://twitter.com/NeriZilber/status/1401119645747318785

Ah, another January 6 moment possibly?

If so, it will hopefully finally discredit Bibi rather as it did Trump.

[Angel of Death]

Ah, another January 6 moment possibly?

No, they want another May 10.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Is that a promise?

https://twitter.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/1400825370212024326

I wish.

But seriously, what an ego! Does he really think that this is a compelling reason to keep anyone in power? Also, he's acting like Bennett isn't right wing himself. Sure, his ability to act so ideologically will be limited by the coalition he has to govern with, but it's not as if Arafat is taking over or something.

[GoTfan]

https://twitter.com/NeriZilber/status/1401119645747318785

I'm surely not alone in thinking that Netanyahu is trying to create a create a crisis to keep himself in power.

[Horus]

https://twitter.com/NeriZilber/status/1401119645747318785

I'm surely not alone in thinking that Netanyahu is trying to create a create a crisis to keep himself in power.

Wouldn't be the first time.

[Hnv1]

Levine considers scheduling the vote on Wednesday. Which makes me speculate they’re up to something otherwise they would procrastinate. Perhaps they know Orbach us against and unless he resigns today his replacement won’t be able to vote on Wednesday

[Angel of Death]

Ah, another January 6 moment possibly?

No, they want another May 10.

Also, the worry is about another November 4.

[CumbrianLefty]

Ah, another January 6 moment possibly?

No, they want another May 10.

Also, the worry is about another November 4.

Ah, thanks for reminding me of that one.

[Oryxslayer]

https://twitter.com/Gil_Hoffman/status/1401559973331603457?s=20

Netanyhu went full Trump today in front of Likud MKs. He continues to try and tie this to the GOP, despite then having no power to influence the situation.

Orbach also hasn't decided, but I suspect we are heading for 60 in favor, 57-59 oppose, and enough abstentions to pass.

[brucejoel99]

https://twitter.com/Gil_Hoffman/status/1401559973331603457?s=20

Netanyhu went full Trump today in front of Likud MKs. He continues to try and tie this to the GOP, despite then having no power to influence the situation.

Orbach also hasn't decided, but I suspect we are heading for 60 in favor, 57-59 oppose, and enough abstentions to pass.

He has apparently decided, but just hasn't publicly announced said decision yet.