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« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2020, 03:27:57 PM »

In a way it might not be as impressive as others, but I am kind of surprised it has not appeared yet

US House of Representatives elections, 2020



(assuming NY-22 and IA-02 end up as Republican)
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« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2020, 03:42:02 PM »

I have also tried very hard to come up with a non-US example and it is much harder than what it seems. Here go my best tries:

Canada 2019



This would work even better if the NT and the Yukon hadn't gone for the Liberals, but still should be close enough



Italy 2006 (Lower House)



Technically this doesn't work because L'Ulivo did win here; but the election was ridiculously close and they won by only 0.06%


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« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2020, 04:29:38 PM »

I have also tried very hard to come up with a non-US example and it is much harder than what it seems. Here go my best tries:

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Italy 2006 (Lower House)



Technically this doesn't work because L'Ulivo did win here; but the election was ridiculously close and they won by only 0.06%

The Italian example does't work at all because you are comparing apples (pluralities for parties/lists) and oranges (pluralities for alliances). L'Ulivo as a list got 31.27% which is far more than Forza Italia with 23.72%.

Very good examples can be found in the UK though, particularly the 1997, 2001 and 2005 elections.
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« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2020, 04:51:54 PM »

NY 1998 AG election

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« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2020, 08:04:59 PM »

The 1932 NJ Presidential map is quite something.

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« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2020, 08:25:49 PM »

I have also tried very hard to come up with a non-US example and it is much harder than what it seems.
It's not *that* hard. Amazonas Brazil 2018 was a pretty good example.
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« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2020, 11:46:30 PM »

Delaware is an interesting contender for this topic.
In a three-way race, a candidate can win statewide without winning any of its three counties.

Could you explain this further? And if this is true wouldn't it theoretically work in any state?
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« Reply #32 on: December 16, 2020, 12:10:43 AM »

Delaware is an interesting contender for this topic.
In a three-way race, a candidate can win statewide without winning any of its three counties.

Could you explain this further? And if this is true wouldn't it theoretically work in any state?
You can be in second place in every county, getting the most vote overall despite not winning any county.
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« Reply #33 on: December 16, 2020, 01:53:06 PM »

2002 Pennsylvania Gubernatorial Democratic Primary (Rendell vs Casey)

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« Reply #34 on: December 16, 2020, 02:20:59 PM »


Hahahahaha lmao Philly liberal elitist Ed Rendell vs. working class populist Bob Casey. Aside maybe from Lancaster County, one of the neatest maps ever.
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« Reply #35 on: December 16, 2020, 04:55:20 PM »


Hahahahaha lmao Philly liberal elitist Ed Rendell vs. working class populist Bob Casey. Aside maybe from Lancaster County, one of the neatest maps ever.
If there's any sore thumb on that map it's actually Centre County, for insisting on being a Rendell County not even near SEPA.
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« Reply #36 on: December 16, 2020, 04:58:31 PM »


Hahahahaha lmao Philly liberal elitist Ed Rendell vs. working class populist Bob Casey. Aside maybe from Lancaster County, one of the neatest maps ever.
If there's any sore thumb on that map it's actually Centre County, for insisting on being a Rendell County not even near SEPA.

Not a sore thumb at all. Centre County has Penn State therefore is already baked in as liberal elitist country. It is also precisely in the centre (duh) of the state so it looks good.
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« Reply #37 on: December 16, 2020, 05:01:00 PM »


Hahahahaha lmao Philly liberal elitist Ed Rendell vs. working class populist Bob Casey. Aside maybe from Lancaster County, one of the neatest maps ever.
If there's any sore thumb on that map it's actually Centre County, for insisting on being a Rendell County not even near SEPA.

Not a sore thumb at all. Centre County has Penn State therefore is already baked in as liberal elitist country. It is also precisely in the centre (duh) of the state so it looks good.
I thought you meant purely in aestethic terms.
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« Reply #38 on: December 16, 2020, 05:05:51 PM »


Hahahahaha lmao Philly liberal elitist Ed Rendell vs. working class populist Bob Casey. Aside maybe from Lancaster County, one of the neatest maps ever.
If there's any sore thumb on that map it's actually Centre County, for insisting on being a Rendell County not even near SEPA.

Not a sore thumb at all. Centre County has Penn State therefore is already baked in as liberal elitist country. It is also precisely in the centre (duh) of the state so it looks good.

I thoguht you meant purely in aestethic terms.

It may look slightly better with Centre for Casey, but I trade that for consistency with political stereotypes. Neatness has to do with aesthetics but is not pure aesthetics.
I certainly wouldn't do that if the lone Rendell county away from Philly were e.g. Somerset or Elk however.
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« Reply #39 on: December 16, 2020, 09:59:58 PM »

Some examples from Europe:

Not completely comparable as the election happened in a country with a multi-party system and under proportional representation, but this map of the 2010 Swedish general election could lead to the conclusion that the Social Democrats bet the Moderate Party quite comfortably - In fact, the Social Democrats got 30.7 % and the Moderates 30.1 %.



Same for the 2005 German federal elections: The SPD became largest party in 12 out of 16 states (including the most populous state of North Rhine-Westphalia), but the CDU/CSU alliance got 35.2 % compared to the Social Democrats' 34.2 %.



Last map for elections with proportional seat allocation: The municipality map of the 2011 Finnish parliamentary election. By looking at this map, someone wouldn't think the Center Party (green) would've ended up in 4th place with 15.8 % far behind the National Coalition (blue) which received 22.3 % in the end.



The 2018 elections for the Croat Member of the collective Presidency in Bosnia resulted in a map that would suggest a close race. In the end, Komšić won by 16 points over Čović.



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« Reply #40 on: December 17, 2020, 01:06:37 PM »

Oklahoma cockfighting ban from 2002. This is surprisingly a 12 point win. Counties in green voted for the ban.



2020 senate race in Michigan.  Gary Peters (D) won with just 9 counties.



1960 senate race in Michigan.  McNamara (D) won with strong support in Wayne/Macomb counties.



Minnesota gay marriage ban from 2012.  Failed 51-47.  Counties in red voted against the ban.



Nevada's background check initiative from 2012. Massive backlash in rural areas but narrowly passed with just Clark county.

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« Reply #41 on: December 17, 2020, 01:25:13 PM »

The 1993 Japanese general election yielded a map that would suggest a comfortable LDP victory over a divided opposition:



In fact that divided opposition deprived the LDP of its overall majority for the first time in a decade and managed to form an unwieldy coalition that briefly forced the LDP from power for the first time since 1955.
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« Reply #42 on: December 17, 2020, 07:36:12 PM »

Since I just noticed this from my response on another thread, here are a couple regional election maps from Spain. While Spain does not have any maps like that nationally; it does have them regionally:

1999 Catalan election (PSC beats CiU by 0.2% in the popular vote; even if CiU does get more seats)



2012 Andalusian election (PP beats PSOE by 1.1%; though PSOE got into government anyways)



Interestingly you also get 2 radically different maps; in the first PSOE wins in the major cities (the 3 darker red counties are in the Barcelona metropolitan area) and in the second instead they sweep the countryside but lose in the major cities
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« Reply #43 on: December 19, 2020, 02:30:25 PM »

Surprised no one mentioned this yet:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1940_United_States_presidential_election_in_New_York

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« Reply #44 on: December 20, 2020, 01:56:52 AM »
« Edited: July 13, 2021, 01:01:35 AM by Calthrina950 »


The 1932 NJ Presidential map is quite something.



It is interesting how the Northeast withstood Roosevelt much more effectively than did the remainder of the country. Roosevelt lost most of the counties in his home state in all four of his successful presidential bids. This included Dutchess County-his home county-which voted against him all four times, and which did not vote Democratic until Lyndon B. Johnson swept every county in New York in 1964. Roosevelt won New York each time primarily due to his strength in New York City, where he won what were then record numbers for Democrats in the Five Boroughs. As for New Jersey, Hudson County (Jersey City), as the map shows, gave Roosevelt more than 70% of the vote in 1932, and provided his margin of victory in the state over Hoover; he won New Jersey that year by ~30,000 votes out of 1.6 million cast. In 1936, Roosevelt won most of the state's counties and carried it by slightly under 20% against Alf Landon.

I would say that Roosevelt's 1932 map in Massachusetts and his 1936 map in New Hampshire are also good examples of this trope:



Roosevelt won Massachusetts in 1932 because he beat Hoover by 2-1 in Boston (Suffolk County), and New Hampshire in 1936 by routing Landon in the cities of Manchester and Nashua (Hillsborough County), where he won by nearly 20%, and which for decades was a Democratic bastion in that state. New England and the Northeast in general was a region where Roosevelt relied upon massive margins in metropolitan areas to overcome the Republican advantage in the "Yankee" rural areas, whereas in the remainder of the country, Hoover and Landon were crushed in metropolitan and rural areas alike. In 1940/44, however, Roosevelt would come to depend upon his urban coalition to win many of the Northern states-not just those in the Northeast, but also Midwestern states like Illinois, Ohio, Michigan, and Wisconsin-against Willkie and Dewey.
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« Reply #45 on: December 20, 2020, 02:14:38 AM »

2020 senate race in Michigan.  Gary Peters (D) won with just 9 counties.




I notice that Washtenaw County voted to the left of Wayne County, both in the Senatorial and presidential races. This also happened in 2016. That is just another sign of the ongoing realignment between the Democratic and Republican Party coalitions.
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« Reply #46 on: December 21, 2020, 11:18:24 PM »

2020 senate race in Michigan.  Gary Peters (D) won with just 9 counties.




I notice that Washtenaw County voted to the left of Wayne County, both in the Senatorial and presidential races. This also happened in 2016. That is just another sign of the ongoing realignment between the Democratic and Republican Party coalitions.

Expanding on this, I made another observation. Michigan has changed dramatically in 90 years. However, in 1932, when Roosevelt became the first Democrat since the 1850s to win Michigan, he won Macomb, Oakland, and Wayne Counties, but lost Washtenaw County. Moreover, Macomb County voted to the left of the other three counties. County maps from decades ago are now unrecognizable, and would be impossible to replicate today.
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« Reply #47 on: December 23, 2020, 04:07:18 AM »

Basically every Nevada precinct/state legislature map
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« Reply #48 on: December 27, 2020, 11:08:32 AM »

2008, 2012, and 2020 presidential elections, though 2008 not as much as the other two.
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« Reply #49 on: December 27, 2020, 12:24:45 PM »

I have also tried very hard to come up with a non-US example and it is much harder than what it seems. Here go my best tries:

Canada 2019



This would work even better if the NT and the Yukon hadn't gone for the Liberals, but still should be close enough





Does this count considering the Conservatives won the popular vote?
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