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[Yellowhammer]

What happened in Atlanta is the inevitable end result of "conservative" pro business policies. They attracted large corporations which attracted lots of left leaning transplants.  If Cobb had the demographics of 1994, it would still be red. 

No need to put “conservative” in quotes there ... those policies were clearly conservative.

Depends how you define conservative.  If a nominally conservative policy leads to non-conservative outcomes, can it truly be considered conservative?  The implications of a policy matter. 

Yes.  Young professionals moving to metro areas for “corporate” opportunities aren’t some inherently liberal demographic.  In fact, the types moving to the suburbs of Atlanta in the 1990s would be in their 50s now and are likely Republicans and certainly were then, probably through the early 2000s at least.  It’s OUR fault we aren’t appealing to this type of voter who should naturally favor a conservative party ... the fact we are not anymore does not redefine “conservatism.”

Many Republicans really wish the GOP could just have the democrats’ voting base, and actively hate the people actually voting for their party. If they could win far-left yuppies by bribing them with tax cuts in the name of their bastardized “conservatism” and kick working class whites (especially southerners) to the curb, they would take that deal in a heartbeat.

[OSR stands with Israel]

What happened in Atlanta is the inevitable end result of "conservative" pro business policies. They attracted large corporations which attracted lots of left leaning transplants.  If Cobb had the demographics of 1994, it would still be red. 

No need to put “conservative” in quotes there ... those policies were clearly conservative.

Depends how you define conservative.  If a nominally conservative policy leads to non-conservative outcomes, can it truly be considered conservative?  The implications of a policy matter. 

Yes.  Young professionals moving to metro areas for “corporate” opportunities aren’t some inherently liberal demographic.  In fact, the types moving to the suburbs of Atlanta in the 1990s would be in their 50s now and are likely Republicans and certainly were then, probably through the early 2000s at least.  It’s OUR fault we aren’t appealing to this type of voter who should naturally favor a conservative party ... the fact we are not anymore does not redefine “conservatism.”

Many Republicans really wish the GOP could just have the democrats’ voting base, and actively hate the people actually voting for their party. If they could win far-left yuppies by bribing them with tax cuts in the name of their bastardized “conservatism” and kick working class whites (especially southerners) to the curb, they would take that deal in a heartbeat.

Except people who used to move to Texas and Georgia were extremely republican.



Literally Cruz won cause of the fact that Texas who moved before 2010 voted 63-36 for Cruz while native born Texans voted for Beto

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

What happened in Atlanta is the inevitable end result of "conservative" pro business policies. They attracted large corporations which attracted lots of left leaning transplants.  If Cobb had the demographics of 1994, it would still be red. 

Just six months ago I said the same thing to Haley/Ryan and got called a socialist for it.

Objectively it is true, supply side economic policies benefit those areas already growing and leave those not to rot, which generally has benefited the the growth of social liberalism at the expense of social conservatism. It is just one of many ways in which the Republican orthodoxy handed down from the Reagan years by his purported disciples works at cross purposes with itself.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Here is what conservatives need to calculate (omg calculation = treason = run), is that you can either service the needs of the base as it is and then at least have people leading it that respect likewise conservative traditions of law and responsible governance or can keep pretending that their is some mythic Reagenite base that will save them meanwhile the crazed men roll into town on the backs of those ignored voters and take a dump all over the constitution.

[Idaho Conservative]

What happened in Atlanta is the inevitable end result of "conservative" pro business policies. They attracted large corporations which attracted lots of left leaning transplants.  If Cobb had the demographics of 1994, it would still be red. 

Just six months ago I said the same thing to Haley/Ryan and got called a socialist for it.

Objectively it is true, supply side economic policies benefit those areas already growing and leave those not to rot, which generally has benefited the the growth of social liberalism at the expense of social conservatism. It is just one of many ways in which the Republican orthodoxy handed down from the Reagan years by his purported disciples works at cross purposes with itself.

Centrist Populism (left econ/right social) would probably lead to the most culturally conservative outcomes.

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

What happened in Atlanta is the inevitable end result of "conservative" pro business policies. They attracted large corporations which attracted lots of left leaning transplants.  If Cobb had the demographics of 1994, it would still be red. 

Just six months ago I said the same thing to Haley/Ryan and got called a socialist for it.

Objectively it is true, supply side economic policies benefit those areas already growing and leave those not to rot, which generally has benefited the the growth of social liberalism at the expense of social conservatism. It is just one of many ways in which the Republican orthodoxy handed down from the Reagan years by his purported disciples works at cross purposes with itself.

Centrist Populism (left econ/right social) would probably lead to the most culturally conservative outcomes.

Probably. Which is why it's such a terrifying combo.

We love you, pro-growth Republicans .

[Idaho Conservative]

What happened in Atlanta is the inevitable end result of "conservative" pro business policies. They attracted large corporations which attracted lots of left leaning transplants.  If Cobb had the demographics of 1994, it would still be red. 

Just six months ago I said the same thing to Haley/Ryan and got called a socialist for it.

Objectively it is true, supply side economic policies benefit those areas already growing and leave those not to rot, which generally has benefited the the growth of social liberalism at the expense of social conservatism. It is just one of many ways in which the Republican orthodoxy handed down from the Reagan years by his purported disciples works at cross purposes with itself.

Centrist Populism (left econ/right social) would probably lead to the most culturally conservative outcomes.

Probably. Which is why it's such a terrifying combo.

We love you, pro-growth Republicans .

ofc you'd like Republicans who help you achieve your goals lol