Special Election megathread (4/30: NY-26)

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

In my case, I think it was more that I foolishly assumed the Cuyahoga County Dems might have there act together for once and that I didn’t anticipate Turner reinventing herself as an establishmentarian (props to her for pulling that off btw

It helps to have enormous amounts of money.  Funny how people all over the country are donating tons of cash to Turner so she can use it to distance herself from them and lie to voters that she was never really one of them.

[credit: Tenor]

No one cares that Turner is going to win the primary

Damn, all these coping red avatars could've fooled me.

Please cite

[BuckeyeNut]

Here's the full footage of the incident, Brown misgendered her friend several times:

https://twitter.com/persistohio/status/1398084576413691909

Yes, her "friend."

[Biden 2024]

Gonna be a landslide. https://twitter.com/ninaturner/status/1399710667679096833?s=21

[ElectionsGuy]

Here's the full footage of the incident, Brown misgendered her friend several times:

https://twitter.com/persistohio/status/1398084576413691909

I don't think this was purposefully transphobic but it was really stupid.

Like she says "transgender woman" and "him" within a second. How do you even do that without thinking that something doesn't click here?

[Duke of York]

Is any Republican running in the primary or will the general election be unopposed? I know this is a safe Democratic district but I hate to see general elections be unopposed.

[wbrocks67]

Is Nina Turner actually behaving better now though? She was totally Susan Sarandon far left nonsense before this year.

[Tartarus Sauce]

Nina Turner becoming the frontrunner in this district has been one of the weirdest Democratic House primary developments in awhile.

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

Nina Turner becoming the frontrunner in this district has been one of the weirdest Democratic House primary developments in awhile.

Not really, she’s been the front runner from the beginning

[Chips]

Safe D

[coloradocowboi]

Is Nina Turner actually behaving better now though? She was totally Susan Sarandon far left nonsense before this year.

"Behaving better..." I don't even get why you would care or be involved in politics if you're number one issue is a candidate's tone lol

[GeneralMacArthur]

Is Nina Turner actually behaving better now though? She was totally Susan Sarandon far left nonsense before this year.

"Behaving better..." I don't even get why you would care or be involved in politics if you're number one issue is a candidate's tone lol

Turner's entire persona is being an obnoxious, conspiracy-addled asshole though.  If you take that away (her "tone") what does she bring to the table?

People like her because she's obnoxious and rude to people they dislike, and because she says crazy
 things that validate their conspiratorial belief system.  That's really all there is to it.

[Donerail]

Turner's entire persona is being an obnoxious, conspiracy-addled asshole though.  If you take that away (her "tone") what does she bring to the table?

People like her because she's obnoxious and rude to people they dislike, and because she says crazy
 things that validate their conspiratorial belief system.  That's really all there is to it.

She's gonna be in Congresssss and you're gonna be soooo maaaadddddd

[GoTfan]

Is Nina Turner actually behaving better now though? She was totally Susan Sarandon far left nonsense before this year.

"Behaving better..." I don't even get why you would care or be involved in politics if you're number one issue is a candidate's tone lol

Turner's entire persona is being an obnoxious, conspiracy-addled asshole though.  If you take that away (her "tone") what does she bring to the table?

People like her because she's obnoxious and rude to people they dislike, and because she says crazy things that validate their conspiratorial belief system.  That's really all there is to it.

[credit: Tenor]

[wbrocks67]

Is Nina Turner actually behaving better now though? She was totally Susan Sarandon far left nonsense before this year.

"Behaving better..." I don't even get why you would care or be involved in politics if you're number one issue is a candidate's tone lol

I didn't mean tone, I meant her not being crazy anymore

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Is Nina Turner actually behaving better now though? She was totally Susan Sarandon far left nonsense before this year.

"Behaving better..." I don't even get why you would care or be involved in politics if you're number one issue is a candidate's tone lol

I didn't mean tone, I meant her not being crazy anymore

Don't worry, they have corrupt neoliberal training when she gets to Congress.

[Horus]

Is Nina Turner actually behaving better now though? She was totally Susan Sarandon far left nonsense before this year.

"Behaving better..." I don't even get why you would care or be involved in politics if you're number one issue is a candidate's tone lol

Turner's entire persona is being an obnoxious, conspiracy-addled asshole though.  If you take that away (her "tone") what does she bring to the table?

People like her because she's obnoxious and rude to people they dislike, and because she says crazy
 things that validate their conspiratorial belief system.  That's really all there is to it.

You totally would've voted for Trump if Bernie had won the nomination lol. Just sad.

[coloradocowboi]

Turner's entire persona is being an obnoxious, conspiracy-addled asshole though.  If you take that away (her "tone") what does she bring to the table?

People like her because she's obnoxious and rude to people they dislike, and because she says crazy
 things that validate their conspiratorial belief system.  That's really all there is to it.

 

I didn't mean tone, I meant her not being crazy anymore

You guys are hilarious. You act like she and her supporters are irrational, and then when backed into a corner as to why you would think that, what's your argument: "She's a meanie!" "Crazy lady bad!" Meanwhile, you insult her supporters far more grievously than I ever heard her insult anybody.

People like her because they think that our for-profit healthcare system is a joke. They like her because they think support for an apartheid gov't under the name of "freedom" is insanity. They like her because voting for Joe Biden was kinda like eating dog s***, except that when somebody eats dog s*** they don't have to worry that it will result in a 4 degree celsius temperature increase that will permanently ruin their lives. People like her for substantive reasons, meanwhile all you have to say negative about her is heavily subjective, emotional, and personal.

[Duke of York]

Safe D

No Republican is running in the general election so obviously safe d.

[Chips]

Safe D

No Republican is running in the general election so obviously safe d.

I'd say Likely Turner.

[Calthrina950]

Turner's entire persona is being an obnoxious, conspiracy-addled asshole though.  If you take that away (her "tone") what does she bring to the table?

People like her because she's obnoxious and rude to people they dislike, and because she says crazy
 things that validate their conspiratorial belief system.  That's really all there is to it.

 

I didn't mean tone, I meant her not being crazy anymore

You guys are hilarious. You act like she and her supporters are irrational, and then when backed into a corner as to why you would think that, what's your argument: "She's a meanie!" "Crazy lady bad!" Meanwhile, you insult her supporters far more grievously than I ever heard her insult anybody.

People like her because they think that our for-profit healthcare system is a joke. They like her because they think support for an apartheid gov't under the name of "freedom" is insanity. They like her because voting for Joe Biden was kinda like eating dog s***, except that when somebody eats dog s*** they don't have to worry that it will result in a 4 degree celsius temperature increase that will permanently ruin their lives. People like her for substantive reasons, meanwhile all you have to say negative about her is heavily subjective, emotional, and personal.

I don't agree with everything Turner says, but as I've said on here before, there has traditionally tended to be a negative view of blacks who "speak their minds", especially if they happen to be in positions of authority or involved in politics.

[TrumpBritt24]

Turner dominates both the primary and general. I get to watch Atlas Dems rage while Congress becomes one member more populist; win-win.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Turner dominates both the primary and general. I get to watch Atlas Dems rage while Congress becomes one member more populist; win-win.

Who's raging?  Do you see me raging or crying about Ilhan Omar or Rashida Tlaib or Cori Bush?

They're terrible people (especially Omar).  They're really f---ing obnoxious.  They're breathtakingly arrogant.  They lie constantly.  They say insane things on a weekly basis.  They are embarrassing to the party.  They are embarrassing to those who have to constantly rationalize and defend their stupid statements.  They constantly kneecap our candidates by providing the Republican Party with a paintbrush of stupidity and awfulness which is then used to tar our whole party.

That's not "rage", that's just the truth.  If a blue avatar was on here talking about how horrible and embarrassing Matt Gaetz is, that's not "raging", that's just the truth.  The problem is that so many self-proclaimed "progressives" have turned their movement into little more than a set of personality cults united behind a sophomoric purity test.  They get obsessed with these candidates and buy into this notion that they're going to save America, when really all they're doing is advancing their own careers and raking in cash by repeating the same dozen or so talking points you can hear from a million different leftist pundits a thousand times a day.  None of them have, or ever will, accomplish anything of note other than making themselves rich and famous.

And yet so many "progressives" worship them.  Why?  Because they go around passionately attacking Democrats and repeating your favorite talking points, and because you see a lot of your friends worshipping them.  That's all there is too it.

Nina Turner is just another drop in the bucket.  Nobody is "afraid" of your movement.  Their self-promotional theatrics and arrogance would be eye-rolling if there wasn't so much collateral political damage involved.  And of course there's also the risk that if our majority shrinks enough, a small band of 5-6 crazy people could unite to become the House's version of Joe Manchin and pull aggravating political stunts anytime their fundraising needs a boost, like refusing to vote for a reconciliation package unless Pelosi holds a vote on an official Congressional endorsement of Hamas, or whatever the politically suicidal cause of the week is.

[Donerail]

Turner dominates both the primary and general. I get to watch Atlas Dems rage while Congress becomes one member more populist; win-win.

Who's raging?  Do you see me raging or crying about Ilhan Omar or Rashida Tlaib or Cori Bush?

Yes, literally all the time. You're doing it right now.

[free my dawg]

[GeneralMacArthur]

As I said.  It's almost entirely about repeating a dozen talking points and irritating people you don't like.  The entire movement is extremely juvenile and very similar to the Republicans who worship Marjorie Taylor Greene because "she makes liberals cry."

Of course nobody's actually crying but you have to convince yourself we are because otherwise what's the point?  It's analogous to a little kid throwing a temper tantrum in the mall.  The mother's reaction is just eye-rolling and irritation, and that would be it if it was in private, but in public there's some anxiety over how other people will perceive her for allowing her child to behave in such a way.  That doesn't mean the child has anything to be proud of.