Special Election megathread (4/30: NY-26)

[Suburbia]

Nina Turner's son is a police officer, and her husband is a retired police officer.

Will that disqualify her?

She'll be seen as part of the corrupt system. Once you are a part of the "family", you are complicit.

The Democratic Party has a strain of anti-police sentiment baked in with the leftwing movements.

https://www.democracynow.org/2016/7/18/my_heart_aches_sen_nina_turner

bronz, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent statement were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, & may God have mercy on your soul.

It's not dumb what I said, it is the truth. When people find out that she is connected to cops, she could lose her leftwing base.

No, caricaturing the left as a group that will cancel somebody because their relatives are police officers is indeed dumb.

I see it happen all the time, even in New Jersey. A lot of people have been canceled because they are associated to cops, etc.

I had a friend unfriend someone because her daughter is a cop.

[BuckeyeNut]

Nina Turner's son is a police officer, and her husband is a retired police officer.

Will that disqualify her?

She'll be seen as part of the corrupt system. Once you are a part of the "family", you are complicit.

The Democratic Party has a strain of anti-police sentiment baked in with the leftwing movements.

https://www.democracynow.org/2016/7/18/my_heart_aches_sen_nina_turner

bronz, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent statement were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, & may God have mercy on your soul.

It's not dumb what I said, it is the truth. When people find out that she is connected to cops, she could lose her leftwing base.

No, caricaturing the left as a group that will cancel somebody because their relatives are police officers is indeed dumb.

I see it happen all the time, even in New Jersey. A lot of people have been canceled because they are associated to cops, etc.

I had a friend unfriend someone because her daughter is a cop.

I don't know how to say this any more politely, but your sense of scale is off.

[Suburbia]

Nina Turner's son is a police officer, and her husband is a retired police officer.

Will that disqualify her?

She'll be seen as part of the corrupt system. Once you are a part of the "family", you are complicit.

The Democratic Party has a strain of anti-police sentiment baked in with the leftwing movements.

https://www.democracynow.org/2016/7/18/my_heart_aches_sen_nina_turner

bronz, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent statement were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, & may God have mercy on your soul.

It's not dumb what I said, it is the truth. When people find out that she is connected to cops, she could lose her leftwing base.

No, caricaturing the left as a group that will cancel somebody because their relatives are police officers is indeed dumb.

I see it happen all the time, even in New Jersey. A lot of people have been canceled because they are associated to cops, etc.

I had a friend unfriend someone because her daughter is a cop.

I don't know how to say this any more politely, but your sense of scale is off.

No, my sense of scale is not off.

It's the truth. You have places like small shops that say they won't serve cops, etc.

Then you want to know why the relationship between cops and civilians are so tense.

I like Nina, she needs to win and she needs to be on the Judiciary Comm., she can handle the Jim Jordans of the world who will deny police brutality.

She's more level headed than Cori Bush

[Badger]

Don't feed the troll, Bruce.

[Dipper Josh]

Turner raised $630K by the end of last year-

https://twitter.com/hollyotterbein/status/1345832987338960898

Will be interesting to see if raising this much so quickly ends up discouraging any potential challengers from jumping in.

Possibly. The early Sanders endorsement was probably also critical in getting other potential left-wing candidates to stay out.

Folks, I know this forum severely underestimates the political savvyness of left wingers but come on. There's no way Nina Turner is dumb enough to punt away a safe house seat just so she can be the sacrificial lamb we put up in 2024.

We need somebody who doesn't have something to lose, Ben Jealous maybe?

I am a left-winger, and I don't appreciate how you directed an entire rant at something I didn't say which should have been directed at someone else in this thread. Do better.

I intended to quote the post above yours, I apologize.

Folks, I know this forum severely underestimates the political savvyness of left wingers but come on. There's no way Nina Turner is dumb enough to punt away a safe house seat just so she can be the sacrificial lamb we put up in 2024.

Well, candidates have done so before (e.g., Tulsi Gabbard & John Delaney this cycle), so it's not exactly out of the question, but if her presidential primary chances against Kamala aren't looking so hot (as they presumably won't), then she'd probably just pull a Booker/Inslee/Ryan/Swalwell/Moulton/Rubio/Paul & jump back into her incumbent race before the filing deadline.

I suppose that isn't out of the question, I see it as quite unlikely for a number of reasons. It'd look rather poor on her to jump immediately into a race for higher office as soon as she wins OH-11, and if she did it would immediately draw well funded primary challengers into her district while she's off running the national race. Would they defeat her as an incumbent? Probably not but why cause the trouble. I'm sure she'd know this and act accordingly.

[VAR]

To no one's surprise, Justice Dems is backing Turner:

https://twitter.com/AlexClearfield/status/1348594999299026945

[BuckeyeNut]

If Turner does win, which seems increasingly likely to me, I am very doubtful she would run for President in 2024. Maybe someday, there's a strong tradition of left-wing U.S. Representatives from Cleveland making pointless Presidential bids, but not in 2024.

[Donerail]

lol
https://twitter.com/AsInMarx/status/1356326821650960384

[GALeftist]

lol
https://twitter.com/AsInMarx/status/1356326821650960384

You love to see it

[AGA]

What was Biden thinking?

[VAR]

Welp, the scorching hot takes on the first page are aging horribly, to say the least...

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Welp, the scorching hot takes on the first page are aging horribly, to say the least...

I maintain that my reasoning was sound and that Turner still isn’t a lock by any stretch, but I do admit that I was wrong about the Cuyahoga County Dems being able to get their sh!t together (I swear, those clowns can barely even tie their shoes on a good day). 

[Xing]

I hadn't thought to check on this thread, since I assumed it would be a steaming mess of hot takes about Nina Turner, but... wow, people really thought she had no chance? You may not like Turner, but she's not comparable to someone like Cenk Uygur, and while money isn't everything, her name recognition will definitely help her.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I hadn't thought to check on this thread, since I assumed it would be a steaming mess of hot takes about Nina Turner, but... wow, people really thought she had no chance? You may not like Turner, but she's not comparable to someone like Cenk Uygur, and while money isn't everything, her name recognition will definitely help her.

I mean, she’d be DOA if the Cuyahoga County Democratic establishment even remotely had its act together, but sadly they still don’t

[Suburbia]

I am surprised Turner's cop ties haven't damaged her yet

[Not Me, Us]

I am surprised Turner's cop ties haven't damaged her yet

Her cop ties?

[Zaybay]

https://twitter.com/andy_levin/status/1357417569163104258

[Suburbia]

I am surprised Turner's cop ties haven't damaged her yet

Her cop ties?

Her husband and son are police officers. Black police officers are seen as sellouts....I am surprised this hasn't been brought up yet.....

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Nina Turner is a great fit for OH

[Zaybay]

https://twitter.com/SethARichardson/status/1357414840550248457

[GALeftist]

Obviously I was never one of the people who thought Turner was noncompetitive but one must wonder wtf the Cuyahoga Democrats are thinking. There are now four non-Turner Democrats running for this seat, which does nothing but split the moderate/establishment vote and risk a MI-13 scenario, plus there have been no high profile endorsements of anyone besides Nina Turner, plus she has way more money than everyone else combined. They might as well roll out the red carpet at this point.

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

Obviously I was never one of the people who thought Turner was noncompetitive but one must wonder wtf the Cuyahoga Democrats are thinking. There are now four non-Turner Democrats running for this seat, which does nothing but split the moderate/establishment vote and risk a MI-13 scenario, plus there have been no high profile endorsements of anyone besides Nina Turner, plus she has way more money than everyone else combined. They might as well roll out the red carpet at this point.

Perhaps there was a back room deal to give Fudge a cabinet seat to please African-Americans, while also promising to not oppose Turner from having a congressional seat to give the progressives another darling

[englandrightnow]

I hope Nina wins.

[BuckeyeNut]

Obviously I was never one of the people who thought Turner was noncompetitive but one must wonder wtf the Cuyahoga Democrats are thinking. There are now four non-Turner Democrats running for this seat, which does nothing but split the moderate/establishment vote and risk a MI-13 scenario, plus there have been no high profile endorsements of anyone besides Nina Turner, plus she has way more money than everyone else combined. They might as well roll out the red carpet at this point.

Barnes isn't really a Democrat, so CCDP had no leverage in keeping him out. He was elected to four consecutive terms in the Ohio House of Representatives from 2010 - 2018 and always caucuses with the Republicans. He is the Ruben Diaz Sr. of this election.

[mikhaela]

Do we really need another squad member?